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hightor
 
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Fri 23 Nov, 2018 09:07 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Nesrin Malik wrote:
It is one of the enduring perplexities of centrist politics, one whose adherents attack the left for being unrealistic and unconcerned with electoral victory, that on immigration it has stuck to pandering to xenophobia despite the benefit of that never materialising at the ballot box.

Well they've simply got to develop a position on immigration that doesn't pander to xenophobia. They certainly haven't shown that opening borders and welcoming immigrants is a particularly appealing idea. As long as they can't convince people of that, the right can continue to build grievance. And good luck convincing people because the whole "asylum" concept was conceived in a different time for different reasons. The continent can't absorb every suffering victim of oppression in the world — a more positive approach needs to be found, something that addresses the root causes.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 09:27 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Nesrine Malik in the Guardian wrote:
Clinton believes she is on to something, but it is offering nothing new. In the past two years accepting the populist version of events and painting the left as out of touch has become a genre of its own, a strain of thought that holds that the success of the immigration rhetoric of populists is organic, inevitable and a “backlash” of some sort, rather than one of several ways that populist politicians build grievance.

We've had to deal with Le Pen for literally generations where I come from, and you know how the French left has finally come to embrace a rather tough stance on immigration. This was primarily out of the same realization that there is a limited absorption capacity for any culture, and that French culture was reaching such a limit. And of course it's never said the way clumsy Clinton said it. Vals never said: "I'm tough on immigration to undermine Le Pen's political appeal." It's more expressed in terms like: "This is a serious preoccupation for the French people and we need to take it seriously." But it's the same idea in the end: populism doesn't come out of nowhere. People do not abandon their faith in democracy lightly. Populism gives the wrong responses to very real and pressing questions about where the world and our western democracies go next.
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 23 Nov, 2018 10:50 am
@hightor,
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something that addresses the root causes.

That is the last thing globalists want to do. They would rather blame the citizens of host countries, who see the danger, instead of calling Islam out.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 11:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
You can view the Guardian's full series on the rise of populism

If you wish to read propaganda, go for it.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 11:15 am
@coldjoint,
If, on the other hand, you want to read pure right wing distortions and misinformation, just click on any of coldjoint's cites.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 11:20 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
just click on any of coldjoint's cites.

Name one, call out the disinformation, and then prove it is not true. Should I wait until you put some substance behind your steady whine? I doubt if I can wait that long.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 11:24 am
https://canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/lehmann112318.jpg
https://canadafreepress.com/article/the-merchants-of-venom#.W_gGnc2Niuw.twitter
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 11:42 am
https://earloftaint.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/asylum.png
https://earloftaint.com/2018/11/23/brutal-conditions-back-home-force-refugees-to-seek-a-better-life-in-your-house/
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 11:59 am
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The LEFT is killing the West with mass migration policies aimed at destroying cultures

Quote:
The reigning view today is that people of European descent are so evil that they must be replaced by people of color. The traitorous leaders of Western countries are working to bring this about. It is the main goal of the EU and the U.S. Democratic Party, which is now the political party of Identity Politics, a doctrine of hate that preaches that only people of European descent are guilty. And, except for Hungary, the haters of white people are succeeding throughout the Western world. U.K. Prime Minister May sold out the British people by pretending to exit the EU while in fact subjecting the British people to EU dominance.

Take a look at the truth.
https://thenationalsentinel.com/2018/11/23/the-left-is-killing-the-west-with-mass-migration-policies-aimed-at-destroying-cultures/
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 12:10 pm
This seems to have disappeared.
https://canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/lehmann112318.jpg
Still, why is this meme being censored? It just says the MSM and its bullshit is harmful if swallowed, I have said it many times before. Hard to believe a meme is so scary. Very telling.
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 23 Nov, 2018 12:31 pm
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Michelle Rempel: Free speech in Canada died today

There is no doubt free speech has been on its death bed for a while. I guess it finally died.

People in Canada just are not too bright.
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 23 Nov, 2018 12:52 pm
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Of course Twitter banned Laura Loomer


http://patriotretort.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Sharia-creep.jpg

Legitimate criticisms and questions never answered, silenced. It reinforces the truth no one wants to hear.
http://patriotretort.com/of-course-twitter-banned-laura-loomer/
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 01:11 pm
Climate change will cost the U.S. economy hundreds of billions of dollars by the end of the century, damaging everything from human health to infrastructure and agricultural production, according to a government report issued today.

Major Trump administration climate report says damages are ‘intensifying across the country'
Quote:
Scientists are more certain than ever that climate change is already impacting the United States -- and that it is going to be very expensive.
[...]
The report’s authors, who represent numerous federal agencies, say they are more certain than ever that climate change poses a severe threat to Americans' health and pocketbooks, as well as to the country’s infrastructure and natural resources. And while it avoids policy recommendations, the report’s sense of urgency and alarm stand in stark contrast to the lack of any apparent plan from President Trump to tackle the problems which, according to the government he runs, are increasingly dire.

The congressionally mandated document — the first of its kind issued during the Trump administration — details how climate-fueled disasters and other types of worrying changes are becoming more commonplace around the country and how much worse they could become in the absence of efforts to combat global warming.
[...]
The authors argue that global warming “is transforming where and how we live and presents growing challenges to human health and quality of life, the economy, and the natural systems that support us.” And they conclude that humans must act aggressively to adapt to current impacts and mitigate future catastrophes “to avoid substantial damages to the U.S. economy, environment, and human health and well-being over the coming decades.”

“The impacts we’ve seen the last 15 years have continued to get stronger, and that will only continue,” said Gary Yohe, a professor of economics and environmental studies at Wesleyan University, who served on a National Academy of Sciences panel that reviewed the report. “We have wasted 15 years of response time. If we waste another 5 years of response time, the story gets worse. The longer you wait, the faster you have to respond, and the more expensive it will be.”

That urgency is at odds with the stance of the Trump administration, which has rolled back several Obama-era environmental regulations and incentivized the production of fossil fuels. Trump also has said he plans to withdraw the nation from the Paris climate accord, and questioned the science of climate change just last month, telling CBS’s “60 Minutes” that “I don’t know that it’s man-made” and that the warming trend “could very well go back.”

Furthermore, as the northeast faced a cold spell this week, Trump tweeted, “Whatever happened to Global Warming?” This shows a misunderstanding that climate scientists have repeatedly tried to correct — a confusion between daily weather fluctuations and long-term climate trends.
... ... ...

coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 01:19 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
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Trump also has said he plans to withdraw the nation from the Paris climate accord, and questioned the science of climate change just last month, telling CBS’s “60 Minutes” that “I don’t know that it’s man-made” and that the warming trend “could very well go back.”

How old is this article? I have to keep track of how long we have left.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 01:34 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
How old is this article? I have to keep track of how long we have left.
Well, the analysis was released on 23 November, 2018. Which is today, in Australia yesterday, though.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 01:41 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Trump loses bid to dismiss New York lawsuit over his charity
Quote:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York state judge has rejected U.S. President Donald Trump’s request to dismiss a lawsuit in which New York’s attorney general accused him of misusing his personal charity to benefit his 2016 presidential campaign and his businesses.

In a decision made public on Friday, Justice Saliann Scarpulla of the state supreme court in Manhattan said Attorney General Barbara Underwood could pursue claims alleging breach of fiduciary duty, improper self-dealing, and misuse of assets of the Donald J. Trump Foundation.
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najmelliw
 
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Fri 23 Nov, 2018 01:50 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Nesrin Malik wrote:
It is one of the enduring perplexities of centrist politics, one whose adherents attack the left for being unrealistic and unconcerned with electoral victory, that on immigration it has stuck to pandering to xenophobia despite the benefit of that never materialising at the ballot box.

Well they've simply got to develop a position on immigration that doesn't pander to xenophobia. They certainly haven't shown that opening borders and welcoming immigrants is a particularly appealing idea. As long as they can't convince people of that, the right can continue to build grievance. And good luck convincing people because the whole "asylum" concept was conceived in a different time for different reasons. The continent can't absorb every suffering victim of oppression in the world — a more positive approach needs to be found, something that addresses the root causes.


I agree wholeheartedly with this. From a humanitarian point of view it looks great to open your borders to the disillusioned, the disenfranchised and the destitute from abroad, but it will create turmoil and resistance in the local population. It's that feeling of general unrest, fear and dissent that the recent right populist movements have so successfully channeled into more political power.
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najmelliw
 
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Fri 23 Nov, 2018 01:53 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
just click on any of coldjoint's cites.

Name one, call out the disinformation, and then prove it is not true. Should I wait until you put some substance behind your steady whine? I doubt if I can wait that long.


Hah. I already did exactly that a while back, and all you said was that your version was correct and more truthful than 'I will ever be', or something among those lines I believe. It's utterly pointless to reason with you on that regard, since all you respond with is: 'my sources are right'.
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 23 Nov, 2018 02:01 pm
@najmelliw,
Quote:
'my sources are right'

Extremely right...
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