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Olivier5
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 03:37 pm
https://www.courrierinternational.com/sites/ci_master/files/styles/image_original_765/public/assets/images/kountouris_2018-10-27-1753.jpg
by Kountouris, Greece, courtesy of Courrier International
georgeob1
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 03:48 pm
@Olivier5,
Interesting cartoon. It merely illustrates the extent of the populist insurgence in both the EU and the US, against established progressive elites out to organize and perfect the lives of their citizens, whether they like it or not.

I expect it will continue - as will the bewilderment and indignation of the progressive elites against whom it is directed.
Olivier5
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 03:52 pm
@georgeob1,
I think it illustrates the increasingly evil political climate we live in.
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coldjoint
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 04:24 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
That gives the right to shut up when other do help.

I know my rights.
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georgeob1
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 05:00 pm
@Olivier5,
You may believe it is evil, however the fact remains that growing numbers of people (and voters) across Europe and the Americas are rejecting the "progressive" (i.e. totalitarian ) policies their elites have been increasingly imposing on them, and doing so increasingly through bureaucracies not subject to democratic review or recall. History confirms the long-term instability of such regimes, and political events in the countries listed in your cartoon, as well as some very recent events from Germany to Brazil, confirm it.
livinglava
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 05:35 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

I think it illustrates the increasingly evil political climate we live in.

It illustrates political cartoonists can use religious symbols to demonize politicians they hate, whether or not they are actually religious believers.
glitterbag
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 07:04 pm
@georgeob1,
Why do you call the extreme right emerging in France, Hungary, Italy, Germany and Brazil "progressive"? The AFD in Germany wants to have school children inform on their teachers political leanings, that's a clarion call to the bad old days. I'm aware of the strife in Hungary, Italy and France, but why would you call these totalitarian-leaning political efforts to be 'progressive'? Brazil, that's a whole different situation and a different continent, so no need to define that. Also, the rest of the world uses terms that don't necessarily equate to the American definition so I'm really just interested in why you are using it in that way.
roger
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 07:13 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

The AFD in Germany wants to have school children inform on their teachers political leanings, that's a clarion call to the bad old days.


I couldn't live like that. I don't know a thing about AFD, but I just couldn't live like that.
Olivier5
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 07:16 pm
@georgeob1,
I do believe fascism is evil. You have a point that it profits from the corruption of democracies, just like predators tend to target the weak and diseased among their potential preys, as they're easier to catch and kill.
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Olivier5
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 07:17 pm
@livinglava,
The drawing has more to do with fear than hate.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 07:31 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Thank you Walter
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glitterbag
 
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Mon 29 Oct, 2018 11:03 pm
@roger,
I think it would be dreadful and so-anti-everything that freedom means.
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izzythepush
 
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Tue 30 Oct, 2018 01:51 am
@glitterbag,
Hitler made some financiers/industrialists very rich. The aristocracy has always liked the far right, especially those aristos with no regard for human life.
izzythepush
 
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Tue 30 Oct, 2018 02:22 am
Quote:
Just before the attack, the alleged gunman railed on social media against a Jewish refugee relief organisation.

The suspect accused the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS) of bringing violent "invaders" into the country.

Mark Hetfield, head of HIAS, said on Monday: "President Trump didn't mention that.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46025867

Trump has always courted the far right, he does bear some responsibility for this attack especially as the gunman seemed to believe his lies about Jews, principally George Soros, financing the refugee column and filling it with 'Middle Easterns.'

George Soros is on the receiving end of so much vitriol from the far right because he's Jewish. Same reason why only the Rothschilds are mentioned when talking about banking dynasties.
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revelette1
 
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Tue 30 Oct, 2018 06:45 am
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President Trump is planning to sign an executive order that would seek to end the right to U.S. citizenship for children of noncitizens born on U.S. soil, he said in a television interview taped on Monday.

The move, which many legal experts say runs afoul of the Constitution, would be the boldest yet by a president elected to office pledging to take a hard line on immigration, an issue he has revived in advance of next week’s midterm elections.

“We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years with all of those benefits,” Trump said during an interview with Axios scheduled to air as part of a new HBO series starting this weekend. “It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

Trump, who has long decried “anchor babies,” said he has discussed the move with his legal counsel and believes it can be accomplished with executive action, a view at odds with the opinions of many legal scholars.
“It was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what? You don’t,” Trump told Axios.

When told that view is disputed, Trump asserted: “You can definitely do it with an act of Congress. But now they’re saying I can do it just with an executive order.”

“It’s in the process. It’ll happen . . . with an executive order,” he said, without offering a time frame.

The move would be certain to spark a constitutional debate about the meaning of the 14th Amendment. It reads: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”


WP


If republicans back this new idea from Trump they will be the biggest hypocrites alive. For years now they have resisted almost any sensible new gun laws and/or regulations citing the constitution as the reason why. Well, as it can be seen in the last paragraph above, this president wants to ignore/go around the 14th amendment wherein (unlike the second amendment) it is clearly stated all persons born in the US are citizens of the US and of the state where they reside. I do not see a way around that.
Setanta
 
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Tue 30 Oct, 2018 06:51 am
What a moron. What an embarrassment to the nation.
Region Philbis
 
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Tue 30 Oct, 2018 06:59 am
@Setanta,

intelligent Americans know what to do...

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