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revelette1
 
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Thu 25 Oct, 2018 08:43 am
Normally without all these bombs being delivered to critics of Trump, a story such as the following might get a little attention, might get asked about at the WH press briefing (whatever you call it) and then called something along the lines of "fake news" even though it is true.

For some reason Trump saw fit to appoint Ruddy Giuliani as a cybersecurity affairs and he gave a speech, along with sanctioned Sergei Glazyev in Armenia Tuesday. Apparently Giuliani had no idea what he was talking about. (shocker)

Should the President's lawyer being giving speeches along someone the US has under sanctions?

https://www.scribd.com/document/391370561/Program-for-Eurasian-Week-listing-Rudy-Giuliani-alongside-sanctioned-Russian-official-Sergei-Glazyev

Now if a big media (or a little one) blitz was made of Guiliani speaking at an event alongside of a man the US has under sanction, this would be labelled as "Fake News" by Trump. This is an example of what Sara Sanders was talking about when she talked about the media being so negative towards Trump and that causing the anger and hate (those two are my words) in our political climate today. If there is so much negative in the administration, a lot of negative stories are going to be reported. Critics and the media have a constituional right to critisize the President and the government without being labelled "enemy of the people." Seems someone might have taken those words to heart.
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revelette1
 
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Thu 25 Oct, 2018 08:46 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Sadly ironical; huh?
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hightor
 
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Thu 25 Oct, 2018 10:38 am
Debunking 5 Viral Images of the Migrant Caravan

When Trump Phones Friends, the Chinese and the Russians Listen and Learn
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 10:53 am
@maporsche,
Pretty much the same thing.

No one is in favor of allowing actual criminals and terrorists waltz across the border. Not even the avowed Open Borders activists.


Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 10:57 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

I have a hard time believing you think anyone would be happy about downturns in the economic health of the country.


No, you don't.
Baldimo
 
  -4  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 11:02 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Bill Maher said as much on his show in the last few months and no one on his panel really batted an eye, they all kind of nodded their heads in agreement. He is hoping there is a recession so that Trump will not get re-elected, so yes, leftists do root for the economy to fail.

Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 11:06 am
@Baldimo,
He did indeed.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -4  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 11:13 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

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I do see how an unbalanced person could be motivated by the calls for incivility.

Everyone can see how it happened: the relentless seam of raw hatred peddled by the US right since decades, by many many sources including the tea baggers, FAUX News, Alex Jones, Trump, and their little social minnions such as yourself, is leading some people to action.

We can't whip up that ****-for-the-mind forever and not hit the fan.

Good luck for the rest of the journey through hell. I hope you find the exit.


The irony in your diatribe is so obvious, I doubt even your most fervent supporters in this forum will miss it.




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maporsche
 
  3  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 11:37 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
I agree with you. I just don’t trust everyone to have the same understanding and certain people enjoy taking things out of context purposefully.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 11:49 am
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Democrats and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day

Another fail by the Democrats
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And he added, “‘Hoax Devices’ are FAR more common than real ones. In which case, we should ask ourselves what the motives of the ‘bomber’ are and ‘who benefits?’ Go ahead. Think deeply and critically.”

After dozens of fraudulent “racist” and violent hoaxes by leftists, college professors, and college students, the incredibly amazing timing and choice of “victims” of these suspicious packages appears to be a failed October surprise.

Lastly, the Democrats chosen to receive the suspicious packages makes me scratch my head. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, former Attorney General Eric Holder and former CIA Director John Brennan… all of the former administration. They are not running for anything. They are largely irrelevant.

In the end of Democrats and the perpetual Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day, odds makers say this was likely just another False Flag operation from the “by any means necessary” crowd.

While it has been a terrible, horrible, no good very bad day for the left, some days are like that, even in America.

Kurt Schlichter summed it up best: “Leftists are smart about one thing, and one thing only—they choose enemies who are unlikely to treat leftists as leftists would treat them.”

https://canadafreepress.com/article/democrats-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-day#.W9H0pOvXefI.twitter
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 12:02 pm
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When It Comes to Sowing Discord in America, Russians Can't Compete with Americans

More than an obvious conclusion. A common sense conclusion, when listening to MSM and Left wing politicians plus the people here at A2K.
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Over the past two years, there's been a steady drumbeat of reports about Russians spreading fake news, creating fake social-media accounts, and forming fake groups that try to organize real demonstrations on U.S. soil. The reporters frequently add the appropriate caveats and cautions, but even then their stories are often framed in ways that scapegoat Moscow for America's domestic political divides. (When The New York Times runs a headline like "How Russia Harvested American Rage to Reshape U.S. Politics," note how it puts the Russians, not the raging Americans, in the driver's seat.) This country has a long history of blaming its problems on alien infections, and it's easy to insert these Facebook pod-people into that old legend.

So it surely matters that these stories tend to feature far more examples of Russians imitating Americans than influencing Americans.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/10/25/when-it-comes-to-sowing-discord-in-ameri
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 12:28 pm
@hightor,
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Verdict: Mislabeled/unproven

Just like Kavanaugh? I do not recall the Times saying anything like that. Are they trying to say they need proof all of a sudden? That's nice. Laughing
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/world/americas/migrant-caravan-fake-images-news.html?action=click&module=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer
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ehBeth
 
  3  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 12:37 pm
@coldjoint,
from the full piece at The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/americans-are-better-russians-conspiring-hurt-american-democracy/573862/

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Maybe you could think bigger, and make a video that tries to red-bait a candidate by linking him loosely to George Soros and, from there, even more loosely to “antifa.” But that would be superfluous because the National Republican Congressional Committee already funded such an ad.

You could always signal-boost some evidence-free conspiracy theory—perhaps the idea that “unknown Middle Easterners” have infiltrated the caravan of immigrants marching toward the Mexican border. But you’d be wasting your patrons’ money: That theory already got an enormous signal boost when the president of the United States endorsed it on Monday.


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This country has a long history of blaming its problems on alien infections, and it’s easy to insert these Facebook pod people into that old legend.


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Any country that contains competing interests is going to be divided in many ways, and elections are precisely the time when you should expect passions to be inflamed around those divisions. That is not in itself a bad thing. The problem with that Soros-antifa ad isn’t that it talks about divisive issues; it’s that it’s a guilt-by-loose-chain-of-association smear. The best defense against messages like it is to learn how to recognize a bad argument or a poorly sourced story, and to put the word out when it’s been debunked.


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A decade ago, online disinformation campaigns involved comment threads and email forwards; now it’s tweets and Facebook memes. The technological landscape may be different, but anyone who’s seen a horde of suspiciously similar blog comments promoting a candidate or cause can tell you that the process has been around for a while.

When it comes to sowing our own discord, Americans have had plenty of practice.


thanks fascists and #45

keep on keeping on the great US tradition of disinformation and discord


coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 12:39 pm
@ehBeth,
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from the full piece at The Atlantic

The same thing, the Atlantic wants proof all of a sudden?
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thanks fascists and #45

Nice try, but you and others like you are the fascists. How is free speech doing in Canada? I have heard it died. Not that you would care.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 12:46 pm
@ehBeth,
https://i.imgur.com/EXsI3gm.jpg
Olivier5
 
  2  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 01:15 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I don't have that many supporters here, and none of them "fervent".
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ehBeth
 
  3  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 01:17 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
That pretty much says it.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 25 Oct, 2018 01:56 pm
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Michael Avenatti: Dem Nominee In 2020 Needs To Be A White Male Because Their Arguments ‘Carry More Weight’

The gift that keeps on giving.
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In an interview with TIME, “creepy porn lawyer” Michael Avenatti said the Democratic nominee to run for president in 2020 should be a white man because their arguments “carry more weight.”

Yes seriously. Here’s what he said the ideal Democratic candidate should be.

Apparently a racist, anyway you look at it.
http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/25/avenatti-dems-need-a-white-male-in-2020-their-words-carry-more-weight/#.W9IIHP0Xq88.twitter
 

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