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InfraBlue
 
  4  
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 12:43 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
What's so obvious?

He is Jewish, elites do not like Jews.

Kushner is one the loftiest of elites. You're saying that he's an anti-Semitic, self-hating Jew. That in itself is anti-Semitic.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 12:49 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
Justice Dept. charges Russian woman with interference in midterm elections

The Justice Department on Friday charged a Russian woman for her role in a conspiracy to interfere with the 2018 U.S. election, marking the first criminal case prosecutors have brought against a foreign national for interfering in the upcoming midterms.

Elena Khusyaynova, 44, was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States. Prosecutors said she managed the finances of “Project Lakhta,” a foreign influence operation they said was designed “to sow discord in the U.S. political system” by pushing arguments and misinformation online about a whole host of divisive political issues, including immigration, the Confederate flag, gun control, and the NFL national anthem protests.

The charges against Khusyaynova came just as the Office of the Director of National Intelligence warned that it was concerned about “ongoing campaigns” by Russia, China and Iran to interfere with the upcoming Midterm elections and even the 2020 race — an ominous warning that comes just weeks before voters head to the polls.

In a statement, the Director of National Intelligence said officials “do not have any evidence of a compromise or disruption of infrastructure that would enable adversaries to prevent voting, change vote counts or disrupt our ability to tally votes in the midterm elections.” But the statement noted, “We are concerned about ongoing campaigns by Russia, China and other foreign actors, including Iran, to undermine confidence in democratic institutions and influence public sentiment and government policies. These activities also may seek to influence voter perceptions and decision making in the 2018 and 2020 U.S. elections.”

The announcement, which was joined by the Justice Department, FBI and Department of Homeland Security, comes on the eve of a trip national security adviser John Bolton is making to Moscow, where he is expected to raise the issue with his counterparts.

Court papers said Khusyaynova’s operation was funded by Russian oligarch Yevgeniy Prigozhin and two companies he controls, Concord Management and Consulting LLC and Concord Catering. A criminal complaint filed against the woman charges that she managed the finances of Project Lakhta, including detailed expenses for activities in the U.S. such as paying for activists, advertisements on social media, registering domain names, the purchase of proxy servers, and promoting news postings on social media.
WaPo


Press Release Department of Justice - U.S. Attorney’s Office - Eastern District of Virginia
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InfraBlue
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2018 12:58 pm
@coldjoint,
You said elites hate Jews.
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glitterbag
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2018 01:03 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
That is stunningly repulsive. I can’t imagine how craven or soulless you would have to be to craft such a message. God help us.
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hightor
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2018 01:19 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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So you were one of the small number of liberals who didn't think W and Reagan were morons?

Reagan was a very effective politician who reached a substantial portion of the electorate; we still talk about "Reagan Democrats". After embracing the anti-communist cause he made speeches all over the country and educated himself, developing talking points which he could spin with sincerity. No, I didn't agree with his policies, any of them. "You know, a tree is a tree, how many more do you need to look at?" But I wouldn't characterize him as a moron or imbecile, although he did grow somewhat disengaged as his senility set in.

W — no, I didn't like his policies either. The response to 9/11 was disastrous for this country. And his speaking style with that halting delivery really grated on me. But he surrounded himself with experienced statesmen; they were conservatives but understood the USA's place in the world and our obligations to our allies. I warmed up to him a bit more after he got that "thumping" in '06 and drew away from Cheney. I always got the feeling that he was pretending to be a tough-talking Texan but if you scratched him you'd see his blood was still blue, like that of his granddaddy Prescott.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 02:39 pm
@hightor,
OK
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Setanta
 
  2  
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 04:31 pm
@hightor,
The younger Bush had some class, too, which didn't always show. When Mr. Obama was elected, and the wailing and gnashing of teeth began, with conservative nut bags here declaring a socialist takeover, Bush showed his quality. He was cordial and friendly to Mr. and Mrs. Obama, and dealt with them in a truly urbane manner. That did him great credit, and it yanked the carpet from under the establishment Republicans who were ready to declare war.

The two greatest Republican presidents in my never humble opinion were Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. and Dwight David Eisenhower. I don't think I would have liked TR in private company, but everybody liked Ike, even those who didn't vote for him. Eisenhower had a good deal to say about the state of the world which has largely been forgotten, more's the pity.

I like John Anderson, too. I liked him so much, I worked for his 1980 presidential campaign. He made a good deal of sense, and offered a sensible economic program, while Ray-gun was offering his voodoo economics (in the words of the elder Bush). Even when it was obvious that he would lose, I encouraged those who had supported him to vote for him, so that he could get Federal matching funds. Alas, it did not happen, and he was saddled with a heavy debt.
farmerman
 
  2  
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 11:12 pm
@Setanta,
I woulda loved to just sit and listen toTR's stories about wildlife and birds and stuff, and why the hell would you name a kid after a frog.
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Setanta
 
  1  
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 11:34 pm
Yeah, I can see that--but that ain't conversation. He sure would have had a big bag of stories to tell.
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Setanta
 
  1  
Fri 19 Oct, 2018 11:38 pm
In 1913-14, after he left the presidency, he and another man explored the River of Doubt in Brazil. It was renamed the Roosevelt River in his honor. He had to have had some great yarns about that one.
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glitterbag
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2018 11:48 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
I can’t imagine how craven or soulless you would have to be to craft such a message.

Don't be so modest, the crap you peddle shows quite an imagination.


Pshaw, you make me blush!!!
izzythepush
 
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Sat 20 Oct, 2018 02:31 am
@glitterbag,
Now the Saudis have admitted to killing Khashoggi I expect Finn will insist they had nothing to do with it because the ex MI6 can't possibly be right, not when Finn has already said he's wrong.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 02:39 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in a fight in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, the country's state TV reported quoting an initial probe.

It said deputy intelligence chief Ahmad al-Assiri and Saud al-Qahtani, senior aide to Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman, were dismissed over the affair.

US President Donald Trump said what had happened was "unacceptable" but that Saudi Arabia was a "great ally".

This is the first time the kingdom has admitted Mr Khashoggi has died.

The acknowledgement follows two weeks of denials that Saudi Arabia had any involvement in the disappearance of the prominent Saudi critic when he entered the consulate in Istanbul on 2 October to seek paperwork for his upcoming marriage.

The Saudi kingdom had come under increased pressure to explain Mr Khashoggi's disappearance after Turkish officials said he was deliberately killed inside the consulate, and his body dismembered.

On Friday, Turkish police widened their search from the consulate grounds to a nearby forest where unnamed officials believe his body may have been disposed of.

Observers are questioning whether Riyadh's Western allies will find the Saudis' account of a "botched rendition" convincing - and whether it will persuade them not to take punitive action against Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi leadership will now be hoping that its belated admission that Khashoggi did die after all inside its consulate - coupled with a handful of sackings and arrests - will be enough to draw a line under this affair. It won't.

This is only a first step towards publicising the truth of what really happened. Given the days of indignant denials by the Saudi leadership it's doubtful we would have even got this far without sustained international pressure.

There can only be one of two possible alternatives here. Either - as many suspect - the powerful Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman was to blame, or he had lost control of his inner circle, something most observers find hard to believe.

MBS, as he's known, has a huge following amongst young patriotic Saudis who see him as a visionary reformer. If that support were now to ebb away then the crown prince could find himself dangerously isolated at court.

A statement from Saudi Arabia's public prosecutor said a fight broke out between Mr Khashoggi, who had fallen out of favour with the Saudi government, and people who met him in the consulate - ending with his death.

The investigations are still under way, it said, and 18 Saudi nationals have been arrested. The Saudi authorities have yet to give evidence to support this version of events.

State media said Saudi King Salman had ordered the sacking of two senior officials.

President Trump said the arrests were an important "first step". He praised the kingdom for acting quickly, and while he said sanctions were an option against the country, he spoke of the possible effect such moves would have on the US economy.

Asked if he found Saudi Arabia's version of events credible, he replied, "I do."

He stressed the importance of Saudi Arabia as a counterbalance to Iran in the Middle East, and pushed back against the need for sanctions against the country in light of the new information, talking about the effect of such a move on the US economy.

He spoke of his visit to Saudi Arabia - his first trip abroad as president - and the $110bn (£84bn) arms deal he signed with the kingdom.

"I'd rather keep the million jobs [in the US] and find another solution," he said.

Earlier this week Mr Trump said there would be "very severe" consequences if Saudi Arabia was proved to have killed the journalist.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45923217<br />

What a load of bullshit. They took a bone saw with them to dismember the body. Hardly a spur of the minute thing. Only Trump is stupid/greedy enough to find this story credible.
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roger
 
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Sat 20 Oct, 2018 02:43 am
I love it when a story keeps, er, evolving.
Builder
 
  -1  
Sat 20 Oct, 2018 03:22 am
@roger,
It's the way of the world, roger.

Name a past US admin that hasn't cosied up to those criminal Saudis.

The UK has been in bed with them since the Balfour declaration.

The west wants the oil. Any people in the way of that plan are cannon fodder.
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hightor
 
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Sat 20 Oct, 2018 04:02 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
What is your problem with Kushner, besides the obvious?


You mean this Jared Kushner?
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