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Builder
 
  -3  
Wed 17 Oct, 2018 02:33 am
Popular meme on social media;

Trump may be the only person in history to get a refund from a hooker.
farmerman
 
  4  
Wed 17 Oct, 2018 03:47 am
@Builder,
they charge by the inch
Builder
 
  -2  
Wed 17 Oct, 2018 03:49 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
they charge by the inch


Speaking from experience there, farmerman?
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hightor
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 04:46 am
Ross Douthat wrote:
When this story first surfaced six years ago, I wrote that it was more embarrassing for the Ivy League than for Warren. The identification didn’t seem to have improved her academic career — something confirmed subsequently by documentation from her hirings — and her brief period as a supposed minority trailblazer was, I suggested, probably a whim of self-identification that she subsequently regretted, and was happy enough to let slip away. In which case it was the schools’ eagerness to turn a woman they had hired on the merits into an embodiment of an essentially phony diversity that was the real problem, not Warren’s attachment to her family tales.

But what Warren should have done when the story resurfaced, what she obviously should have done, was to simply express mild regret for letting her enthusiasm for family lore carry her away into identifying as someone who might possibly receive affirmative-action consideration, apologize to Cherokee groups for any offense, and literally never speak of the matter again. And if and when Donald Trump started up his Pocahontas jibes, she should have simply ignored him and talked about the many issues where he’s on the wrong side of public opinion.

NYT
izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 17 Oct, 2018 05:37 am
Quote:
At least 10 people have been killed and dozens more wounded in an explosion at a college in Russian-annexed Crimea.

Officials said an "unidentified explosive device" detonated at the technical college in Kerch, where Russia has built a bridge between the peninsula and Russia.

Initial reports had suggested that the blast was some sort of gas explosion.

But a Russian national guard official said the incident was a deliberate "terrorist act".

Sergei Melikov told Tass news agency the explosion had been caused by an improvised explosive device.

A Kremlin spokesman had also said that a deliberate attack was now being investigated as a possibility.

A local official said most of the blast victims were students of the technical college, which is a vocational school for teenagers.

The director of the college, who had not been at the scene at the time of the attack, told Russian media that unknown armed men had broken into the building. She compared it to the school siege of Beslan in 2004, during which about 330 people died.

"There were lots of corpses, corpses of kids, a real terrorist attack," she said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45891201
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NSFW (view)
revelette1
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 07:50 am
Quote:
One of the innumerable ways in which Donald Trump has degraded American politics is his habit of relentlessly using belittling nicknames for his political opponents. Seizing on a superficial or imagined characteristic — “Liddle Marco,” “Low-Energy” Jeb Bush, etc. — he repeats it, like a middle-school bully, recruiting his sycophants to circulate the meme.

Axios reports that Trump is especially pleased with his insulting of Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren, a contender for the 2020 Democratic nomination. Axios brings us word that behind the scenes the bully-in-chief and his lackeys are chortling about their success. “Trump’s nicknames slyly capitalize on and exacerbate a real or perceived weakness: A former aide said: ‘You hear them and laugh, and then they say: ‘You know what? He’s kinda right!’,’” it reports, adding in the news outlet’s signature “Be Smart” coda: “Be smart … Trump’s ‘Pocahontas’ nickname, as offensive as it may be, has been wickedly effective from his point of view.”

One of the preconditions for the success of Trump’s method is a news media that will devote far more attention to grading the effectiveness of Trump’s bullying than its truth. Even on those amoral terms, this story is especially credulous. It gives Trump credit for inventing a nickname that he did not actually devise. In fact, the theme and the term were used against Warren when she ran for Senate in 2012. “The term Pocahontas” was “near ubiquitous in conservative media,” complained one critic.

The far more common term of abuse at the time was “Fauxcahontas,” which at least involves some wordplay. So to the extent Trump can claim any contribution here, it is nudging Republicans away from a somewhat clever bullying nickname and toward the adoption of a dumber version.

The accusation implied by the nickname is that Warren falsified Native American heritage to advance her career in academia. Warren has said she has been told by her family that she has part Cherokee descent, and has listed that designation at times. This week, she released the result of a DNA test trying to ascertain whether that family lore is correct. The test suggested she probably did have a Cherokee ancestor six to ten generations ago. Conservatives claimed this proved she had less Native American ancestry than the average person, and the conclusion spread virally through conservative media, although it was false.

More to the point, did she benefit from affirmative action as an alleged Native American? The Boston Globe’s Annie Linskey conducted an exhaustive investigation of this question last month, digging through personnel records and interviewing former colleagues and supervisors. The result of her reporting was unambiguous. “The Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools,” it found. “At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.”

Perhaps because this report came out on Labor Day, or perhaps because the news media is too shallow to care, its findings have failed to make much impact. Instead we are left with lots of admiring commentary about Trump’s bullying game being on point. “It clearly got in Warren’s head: The fact that she got a DNA test, let alone is doing a massive rollout of the results, shows how much it’s on her mind,” reports Axios. “It now becomes a symbol of whether she’s honest. Did she lie to advance her academic career?”

Well, she didn’t — a fact the story declines to mention. But who cares about the truth when we can describe the effectiveness of the lie?


DI

I can't stand a bully, the worst thing you can do with a bully is allow him/her to get clean away with it without standing up to the bully. The DNA test proved Warren was correct when she claimed to have Native American blood in her ancestry and when sometimes listed it along with listing her white ancestry, she was also correct. It has also been proven her rise in the law profession was entirely due to her credentials. Trump is now saying he never said he would donate 1 million dollars to a charity of Warren's choice if she took a DNA test and it proved she had Native blood in her, well, once again the bully is lying. The media is Trump's biggest supporter in that it always plays into Trump's hands.
farmerman
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 09:03 am
@revelette1,
not in this case , the media has audio of plump saying that he would donate a million. So like any other of his debts, hes gonna weasel out of it.
Thus proving that he and truth are from different planets.
ehBeth
 
  4  
Wed 17 Oct, 2018 09:13 am
@hightor,
Ross Douthat wrote:
she should have simply ignored him and talked about the many issues where he’s on the wrong side of public opinion.


gotta go low

going high when the other side goes low just doesn't seem to work in USian politics.
farmerman
 
  2  
Wed 17 Oct, 2018 09:23 am
@ehBeth,
thats because people no longer talk TO THEIR OPPONENTS, they only talk ABOUT them.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 09:38 am
@revelette1,
That dim light at the end of the tunnel is the announcement that the US economy is #1 in the world. The first time since 2008.

Most rational people would see that as a bonfire.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 09:43 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

So she made a mistake in a college application. Did she get preferential treatment. Is her law degree null and void. Did she get a real Native American to do her schoolwork for her? Does any of this matter, what 40 years later?


It may have been passive on her part but she has taken advantage of it over the years. It speaks to her character. I doubt it will mean anything to her core supporters, but you can be absolutely sure that it will resurface if the 2020 Democrat debates if she is seen as any sort of threat to Harris or Booker.
revelette1
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 09:45 am
Mueller Ready to Deliver Key Findings in His Trump Probe, Sources Say
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 09:49 am
@Olivier5,
Can you tell us specifically what dangerous actions he has taken and what harm they have caused?

And please don't spout off about unproven claims about Russian collusion, but if you must (as I know you will) please provide us with how it has harmed America and the world. (Keeping in mind the increased sanctions placed on Russia since he was elected and his providing Ukraine with actually military support and not just blankets and k-rations...and not to mention launching military attacks against one of Russia's client states when they crossed the redline a prior president withdrew from)
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 09:50 am
@farmerman,
It will be a mistake if he continues to dodge payment.
revelette1
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 09:53 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Wish the booming economy would trickle down to the rest of us. So far, the only ones to benefit from Trump's economic polices has been the top 1% and Wall Street. We didn't see much improvement for the rest of us under Obama either but then he never claimed otherwise. He always said there more work to do. His deregulations has been a boom for for pollution; hasn't benefited workers at all.


Trump’s tax cuts have so far failed to deliver on one key promise

Commentary: How Trump Is Letting Businesses Steal Money From Workers
coldjoint
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 10:21 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
No **** Sherlock. A fascist America is bad news for everybody.

The fascist party is not in power right now. And they are bad news. They actually think like Europeans. That is stupid and dangerous.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 10:23 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Republicans vote for more dead children.

They do not want them raped too? We will never treat our children as badly as the UK has.
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ehBeth
 
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Wed 17 Oct, 2018 10:26 am
@revelette1,
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44115330_2429438187072246_2432295054090436608_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_eui2=AeE34eDuI1XwY2m7rrHUc_cI9OdgWLvDWnB0f4BXvYu2_7m49mpbmpV-6SbcI-_rFczMWiA20IhVpEw5iz30SA5eZlQxemYY6jAVkA-Vn-xmwg&oh=dd7a9af1e7fde0ca6ce7650489d2fb37&oe=5C5398EA
maporsche
 
  3  
Wed 17 Oct, 2018 10:49 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
It will be a mistake if he continues to dodge payment.


Maybe. It could also be viewed as weak if he agrees to pay, considering his statements post DNA announcement.

If he doesn't pay and Warren is his opponent in 2020, it will surely come up.
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