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Builder
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 12:14 am
@glitterbag,
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What most kids remember is the outrageous


Your current president is a former playboy reality TV show host.

Nothing surprises us about what's happening in the US these days.

We are wondering what the international criminal court is going to do about the past admin's atrocious foreign policy, but we're patient in that respect.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 12:52 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
We are wondering what the international criminal court is going to do about the past admin's atrocious foreign policy, but we're patient in that respect.
Who did file a suit?
Besides that, I'd thought that the United States is not a State Party to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.
glitterbag
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 12:55 am
@Builder,
You're patient.....how nice.....as a matter of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Blickers
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 01:38 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote Finn:
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You would think that by now the Dems would be able to find a victim who has a friend who is also willing to lie, but then again, why should they? Not only have the three named accusers been unable to corroborate their claims, two of them provided the names of people who were supposed to have been able to but who promptly turned around and said: "Nope, not me" and that didn't slow down the search & destroy process one bit.
Are you talking about those signed statements that the corroborators' attorneys made up or edited? They are a far, far cry from the corroborating witness having an actual interview with an FBI person. It turns out those corroborating witnesses were not backtracking after all.

But here's some more bad news from the conservative point of view-the FBI is already on it, and furiously. Check out the story from former US Attorney Barbara McQuade and Frank Figliuzzi, former high ranking FBI official. And this is only Friday night.



You do realize that Kavanaugh painted himself into a corner by swearing he was never at the party in question, right? If the FBI finds evidence that Kavanaugh was even at the party, they don't even have to show he took part in the attempted rape-Kavanaugh's story collapses. Not only does not go onto the Supreme Court, but lying to the Senate confirmation committee is a serious crime. We could be looking at jail time for Kavanaugh.

Which under most presidents would be a shocking thing, but in the Trump Administration there are so many appointees facing jail or giving evidence in exchange for a reduction in sentence that it's pretty much par for the course.
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Builder
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 02:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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I'd thought that the United States is not a State Party to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.


That's very ******* handy, isn't it? And coming from one who promotes the US as being above the law, not surprising at all to the rest of us.
Builder
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 02:21 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
You're patient.....how nice


Oh, you can go and **** in your hat as well, glitter.

It was a mistake on my part to think you'd changed your MO.

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Blickers
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 02:30 am
@Builder,
Quote Walter:
Quote:
I'd thought that the United States is not a State Party to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.


Quote Builder:
Quote:
That's very ******* handy, isn't it? And coming from one who promotes the US as being above the law, not surprising at all to the rest of us.
Or in other words, Walter's right, you're wrong, but instead of manning up and admitting it you figured you'd just bellyache about how your side wuz robbed.
roger
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 02:34 am
@Blickers,
And that's his MO.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 02:36 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
That's very ******* handy, isn't it? And coming from one who promotes the US as being above the law, not surprising at all to the rest of us.
When/where did I promote the US being above the law? (In the USA, some persons might think, they stand above the law. As do some in any other other country.)


I would like, if the US had joined the Rome Treaty and accepted the ICC.
If that's a surprise "to the rest of us" the of you hadn't read most of my responses since 2002.

But it is handy, for the USA, I admit, not accepting the rulings of the ICC.

Since you wrote that you were "wondering what the international criminal court is going to do about the past admin's atrocious foreign policy", I really would like to know who filed the suit and when.
Otherwise, your wondering would be a quite empty deep hole, saying a lot about ...
Builder
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 02:42 am
@roger,
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And that's his MO.


You're admitting that you're just as much of a shill as the rest of these peeps. We thought you were moderate.

No such animal here any more. Most rational peeps have done a runner to more fertile pastures.

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Builder
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 02:44 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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But it is handy, for the USA, I admit, not accepting the rulings of the ICC.


Handy, you call it?

Late edit; handy, meaning wipe your arse on your own constitution when it comes to the rights of other nations. Right?
hightor
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 03:05 am
@Builder,
The inhabitants of the USA have long considered themselves, with little evidence, as living in the greatest nation in the entire world. There was a brief turn toward globalism in recent decades but history will probably see it as aberrant behavior. We're really happier yelling "USA! USA!! USA!!!" than trying to form mutually respectful relations with other countries.
Builder
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 03:10 am
@hightor,
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We're really happier yelling "USA! USA!! USA!!!" than trying to form mutually respectful relations with other countries.


You're living in a petrie dish. Due to the irrational nature of your foreign policy, nobody really has faith in outcomes any more. Kind of sad, really. Using that kind of strength for such short-term gain.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 03:18 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
Late edit; handy, meaning wipe your arse on your own constitution when it comes to the rights of other nations. Right?
Interesting. Would you please quote our constitution where it says something about the rights of other nations?
And what has our constitution to do with that the USA aren't accepting the rulings of the ICC?

But I kindly ask you again: who filed the suit, you are wondering about, and when?
Builder
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 03:20 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Would you please quote our constitution where it says something about the rights of other nations?


I guess that means other nations don't deserve the same rights that you enjoy?
hightor
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 03:20 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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If she does and her testimony is as incredible as I expect it to be, I want the Republicans to move quickly to a vote on Kavanaugh. If they do not, that's it for me as far as the GOP.

I hope next week is "quickly" enough for you. You know, for the sake of the GOP.

In response to your newer post, I thought conservative NYT columnist Bret Stephens's piece might interest you, Believability is the Road to National Ruin
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In 1998, a Russian geopolitical analyst named Igor Panarin forecast that the United States would disintegrate by the year 2010. Watching Christine Blasey Ford and Brett Kavanaugh testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday, it occurred to me that maybe he was off by just a few years.

Panarin argued that the U.S. would be brought low by a combination of mass immigration, mounting foreign debt, ethnic unrest and class conflict, leading to the disunification of the country into a “Texas Republic,” a “Californian Republic” and so on.

But that’s not always how countries tear themselves to pieces. Sometimes, they destroy themselves over the things they don’t see, not the things they do. Chief among those unseen things is belief.

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 03:26 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
I guess that means other nations don't deserve the same rights that you enjoy?
Quote:
Preamble
Conscious of their responsibility before God and man,

Inspired by the determination to promote world peace as an equal partner in a united Europe, the German people, in the exercise of their constituent power, have adopted this Basic Law.

Germans in the Länder of Baden-Württemberg, Bavaria, Berlin, Brandenburg, Bremen, Ham-burg, Hesse, Lower Saxony, Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, North Rhine-Westphalia, Rhineland-Palatinate, Saarland, Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt, Schleswig-Holstein, and Thuringia have achieved the unity and freedom of Germany in free self-determination. This Basic Law thus applies to the entire German people.
It just about us here, not about other nations.

Do other constitutions include the rights of other nations? I might have forgotten that, but at least the German doesn't.
Builder
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 03:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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Do other constitutions include the rights of other nations?


Does your human nature not include thinking the rights that you enjoy should be enjoyed by every human?


Quote:
I might have forgotten that, but at least the German doesn't.


It's basic human nature to care for and nurture others. Did you miss that part in your upbringing?
hightor
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 03:29 am
@Builder,
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Using that kind of strength for such short-term gain.

Short-term gain followed by legislative mitigation in face of disappointing results has long been our preferred way of doing business, emphasis on "business". Long-range planning and proactive strategies are pretty much anathema to our "way of life".
Builder
 
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Sat 29 Sep, 2018 03:49 am
@hightor,
It's really cogent that you mention "your" way of life.

It's as important as any other aspect of existence.
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