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camlok
 
  -1  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 04:42 pm
@ehBeth,
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Corsi is known for his role in ... as well as other conspiracy theories, including about the 9/11 terrorist attacks


This should be interesting eh, Beth? He is going to talk about the US government official 9/11 conspiracy theory. Hot damn!!

The vast majority of cowards don't want to discuss this topic, right Beth?
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camlok
 
  -1  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 04:47 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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No. Who the hell care[sic] who you respect?


You've just blown your carefully crafted schtick as a even handed person, Finn. You are a rabid partisan, aren't ya, bud?
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 04:54 pm
@ehBeth,
That meme exploits women.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 05:29 pm
@ehBeth,
Daughter and both ex-wives, all in the US for November, will be voting.
blatham
 
  3  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 05:37 pm
Quote:
PR firm helped Whelan stoke half-baked Kavanaugh alibi
CRC Public Relations, a powerhouse conservative firm, guided Ed Whelan on a bad Twitter adventure.

...CRC Public Relations, the prominent Alexandria, Virginia-based P.R. firm, guided Whelan through his roller-coaster week of Twitter pronouncements that ended in embarrassment and a potential setback for Kavanaugh’s hopes of landing on the high court, according to three sources familiar with their dealings.

...Best known for its work with the Swift Boat Veterans in 2004, CRC bills itself as a full-service communications firm “specializing in media relations, social media and issues management,” according to its website. It has long been the go-to communications firm for conservative organizations in Washington and across the country. Its current clients include the Federalist Society and the Judicial Crisis Network, the chief outside groups working to help confirm Kavanaugh.
Politico
Another big ******* surprise, that.
hightor
 
  2  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 06:03 pm
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose Department:

Has the Republican Party Turned Into a Cult?

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Watching a Mitt Romney political rally today in one of the swing states, it really feels like a cult; packed full of inside jokes and cursory chuckles; hoots, whoops, hollers, and bent vissions of reality the likes of which only Scientology can parallel.

And I’m NOT talking about rank-and-file republicans; just the extreme right. We must be fair.

A long, long time ago I had the “opportunity” of being at a Scientology event in Boston as an outsider who was running sound for Pat Metheny (he was part of the stage show). It was a frightening thing. About 600 or so people, 3/4 of whom looked scared or lost, and the rest walked like they were kings of the world. There were perky name tags, and a bust of L. Ron Hubbard himself (in bronze) sitting atop a pedestal on the stage. They actually gave three cheers directed at said bronze bust at one point. Hipp, hipp, hurray! Hipp, hipp, hurray!

At this meeting / recruitment event the tone of the speakers on the stage was exactly the same as Mitt Romney and all the bobbing heads who show up to republican rallies.

Spite for the other.

They boo and hiss at a gathering more readily than they cheer (allotting a smidgen of that phenomenon due to the theatrical nature of politics in the 21st Century).

Lots of spiteful laughter from inside jokes, but no factual basis. They chuckled a lot at jokes that made no sense unless you’ve bought into buying all their books and seminars. They had a deeply mocking tone against “the other.” It was both mean and sad at the same time – reality and facts warped for a power-grabbing end, all run by salespeople who were there to get money from the scared masses in the room. They belittled anyone who doesn’t believe what they do, which in turn, makes the followers feel “more” and “bigger” and “part of the group” as a result – basically exploiting basic human psychology to get loyal followers.

Cults also warp, re-shape, and interpret religion and/or faith, then specifically use it as a tool to reach their non-religious goals. No one can deny the Republican Party does that. That’s one of the key aspects of culture-based cults: using some form of faith as a tool, not just as a pure religion or personal ideology.

Cults also have frenzied leaders who are not leaders so much as loudspeakers for the cause. The Republican Party has used the extreme right radio, television, and bloggers to carry the torch for them; much more so than then left has.

Whenever there’s a protestor at a republican rally, what happens? The crowd boos and shouts, then rallies into a “USA, USA” chant. Drown out opposition voice. That, days after an historic storm that has crippled the East Coast… when someone asks the man who wants to be president about climate change (…that he USED to believe, but now that he has to win the republican base, suddenly he doesn’t believe in it anymore… while even the star dissenter of climate change has changed his mind on climate change because of the proof that humans are a factor… ) But in the Republican Party in the time of Obama… the crowd shouts anyone who believes what they do not out of the building masked by chants of “USA! USA! USA!”. DAYS after people have died from a storm that flooded millions of people (and still infrastructure is barely functioning)… the republican party man won’t even answer a single question about climate change – because the cultish part of the republican party is in complete denial… ONLY because oil companies want less regulation on pollution and safety.

Cults also require a bit of paranoia to keep its followers in line. The extreme right has become a country of conspiracy theories. They create or deny facts at every turn in the 2012 election. It’s one thing to not believe a poll because you disagree with the sampling, but it’s another to constantly create elaborate conspiracies from birthers to evil communists taking over the Panama Canal. When a group of people have an ORGANIZED conspiracy theory-creating machine, then the cult threshold has been crossed. At least liberals just complain and whine without trying to recreate reality.

The extremes of both political parties are a bit crazy, but the Republican side has left reality behind… that’s more disconcerting than liberals who are extreme tree huggers or pull the race card too often. Normally when people “leave reality behind” we get them psychological help. When entire swaths of a population do it really strange things tend to happen, like Mitt Romney… Mitt Romney!… being a breath away from becoming President of the United States; and Paul Ryan two breaths away from the Presidency (I know I’m not the only one who finds that an astounding possibility.)

BTW: if a Scientologist ever offers you to “hold the cans” so you can be read… some of the people I worked with back then discovered that if you think about sex the needle floats in perfect position.

coldjoint
 
  -4  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 06:09 pm
@hightor,

More hypocrisy.
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Blickers
 
  2  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 06:33 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn:

Senator Orrin Hatch-still on the committee-calling for an FBI investigation during the Anita Hill hearings:

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hightor
 
  2  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 06:35 pm
@blatham,
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Another big ******* surprise, that.

They know there's a ready-made audience of slack-jawed mouth-breathers who'll eat it up. Palming off this **** on people with whom you claim political solidarity is sordid and cynical. Nothing like undercutting your own side's credibility! I like this one, courtesy of cj, (another big ******* surprise, that):
Quote:
🚨BREAKING: According to sources Diane Feinstein's reluctance to mention the Kavanaugh accuser's letter during confirmation session is because the accuser sent a similiar letter directed at Judge Gorsuch last year. The whereabouts of the earlier letter remain a mystery.developing


How many poor MAGA-maniacs end up looking like fools and simpletons for trying to pass this off as real news? Why continue to spew this crap?


blatham
 
  2  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 06:35 pm
@hightor,
Nothing wrong with that analogy.

It seems to me that adherents to a cult or cult-like membership become disaffected and leave only after some accumulation of disappointments - at claims made and believed that don't get realized or which come to seem false. Or at the treatment of the cult members by other members.

It is going to be difficult, perhaps impossible, to shake America out of this particular insanity but it is helpful to have someone like Trump as the figurehead of the "cult", if for no other reason than how he is or will be perceived by swing voters and independents. But for now, the base is a lost cause.
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blatham
 
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Fri 21 Sep, 2018 06:46 pm
@hightor,
That dude is a humdinger.

And yes, they count on their audience being frightened, angry and eager for manipulation of the easy answers sort. And there's money to be made in running this con, of course.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 06:50 pm
@hightor,
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How many poor MAGA-maniacs end up looking like fools and simpletons for trying to pass this off as real news?

Kevin Jackson is responsible, not me. And the crap proven fake comes from the Left also. Whether it is fake or not, it is soon to be a moot point.
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gungasnake
 
  -4  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 07:11 pm
Things lookin real bad for the ho.... 10 PM tonight deadline to say something intelligent or they confirm Kavanaugh Monday morning, the votes to confirm are there.
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camlok
 
  -4  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 07:29 pm
@blatham,
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both ex-wives


That is certainly understandable, Bernie.
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camlok
 
  -3  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 07:31 pm
@hightor,
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They know there's a ready-made audience of slack-jawed mouth-breathers who'll eat it up.


On the "left" and on the right and the far right and the totally wacked out far right.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 08:20 pm
Take a break and see what the EU is.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 08:31 pm
@ehBeth,
You realize that you are a Canadian, don't you?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -4  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 08:34 pm
@blatham,
"Both" ex-wives?

Have a commitment problem, or didn't you respect your vows to either woman?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 08:35 pm
@hightor,
How about the fools and simpletons that will buy the latest excuse that Ford has a fear of flying?
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Fri 21 Sep, 2018 08:40 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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How about the fools and simpletons that will buy the latest excuse that Ford has a fear of flying?

The kind of school she went to she probably flew to Europe as a teenager. But I could be wrong.
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