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hightor
 
  4  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 11:40 am
@camlok,
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Are YOU, accusing him of dishonesty, hightor?

No, I think I stated pretty plainly that I objected to anthropomorphism.
Are YOU, accusing me of dishonesty???
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 11:43 am
@hightor,
Good lord but you have become a pathetic apologist for all things Left.

Notwithstanding the cute tricks used by the reporter, the article was intended to cast aspersions on Haley.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 11:47 am
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Britain Turns Offensive Speech Into a Police Matter
The nation that gave the world John Milton and his cry for the “liberty to utter” is now at the forefront of shutting speech down.

I will give you a few guesses who that speech is offending.
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Which country's police force just called on its citizens to report offensive speech? Not libelous speech or death-threat speech, just plain old insulting speech. Speech that is merely hurtful or hateful. Which nation's cops instructed the citizenry to snitch on haters?

North Korea? China? Maybe Turkey?

That country is Britain. It should come as no surprise
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It is testament to how entrenched censorship has become in 21st-century Britain that a police force can so casually call for reports about speech.

This is a country whose communications laws and public-order legislation can be, and regularly are, used to punish hateful expression. Last year The Times reported that British police are arresting nine people a day for posting "offensive messages online." In 2016, 3,300 people were detained and questioned for things they said online. In some parts of Britain the arrest rate for offensive speech has risen by nearly 900% in recent years. We Brits are sleepwalking into a police state..

Some, if not all, of the Trump haters would love laws like this where the government and media regulate all speech. It is apparent censorship is what the Left wants. They have gotten their way in the UK.
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This is the policing of thought. The policing of ideology.

https://reason.com/archives/2018/09/15/britain-turns-offensive-speech-into-a-po
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hightor
 
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Sat 15 Sep, 2018 11:47 am
@coldjoint,
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And the story about Haley backfired and made Obama look like the corrupt jerk and traitor he is.

How exactly does this make Obama look like a "corrupt jerk and traitor"? At worst, it looks like someone in his administration decided to spend a lot of money on the U.N. ambassador's residence. While I might prefer that the ambassador pitch a tent in Central Park I hardly see where this indicates that Obama is a "corrupt jerk" or a "traitor". Care to provide an explanation?
camlok
 
  0  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 11:50 am
@coldjoint,
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The crybabies are not on the Right.


You, coldjoint, illustrate with your most every post, that "The crybabies are on the Right". But there are a lot on the left too.
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hightor
 
  4  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 11:52 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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...the article was intended to cast aspersions on Haley.


Well it wasn't very successful, was it? Looks more like casting aspersions on wasteful government spending. I thought that was a particular bugbear of the right.
camlok
 
  -1  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 11:55 am
@coldjoint,
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and made Obama look like the corrupt jerk and traitor he is.


A traitor is one who spends lavishly on government buildings etc. The entire body of US politicians are traitors.

Oh, and you are whining again. Can you say hypocrite?
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camlok
 
  -2  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 11:56 am
@hightor,
Always hiding in plain sight, hightor.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 11:59 am
@hightor,
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How exactly does this make Obama look like a "corrupt jerk and traitor"

It doesn't until you realize the Obama administration did what it wanted, when it wanted, defended by the media and useful idiots who watched terrorists thrive because of his policies. The arrest of the maker of the video that caused nothing to happen, enforcing Sharia, while the administration lied on Sunday news shows about the death of an ambassador and three Americans.

Every time his name is mentioned I get sick to my stomach because of what he did and still wants to do to this country.
hightor
 
  5  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:01 pm
This Is Not the End of Trump
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Chaos in the White House has not diminished the chances of a two-term presidency.


I'm not endorsing Roger Cohen's opinion piece but he does raise points which are worthy of consideration.
camlok
 
  -2  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:05 pm
@hightor,
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I'm not endorsing Roger Cohen's opinion piece but he does raise points which are worthy of consideration.


You don't like to consider points that are worthy of being looked at, hightor, but you are hardly alone in this.

And this from the land of free and open discussion, all topics are on the table.
ehBeth
 
  3  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:05 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
While I might prefer that the ambassador pitch a tent in Central Park


I'd prefer that the entire UN be moved out of the US and moved to a country where the money is needed. The US doesn't need the UN $$$ and people in NY (and the US) are always complaining about the costs of running the UN and the traffic disruption. Move it somewhere the money will be appreciated - and don't plop it in the middle of a big city. That was such a stupid thing to do to begin with.

And no, I don't care if the US doesn't stay in the UN.
hightor
 
  3  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:05 pm
@coldjoint,
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The arrest of the maker of the video that caused nothing to happen, enforcing Sharia, while the administration lied on Sunday news shows about the death of an ambassador and three Americans.

Um, how exactly does this relate to the story about the UN ambassador's residence? Read up on "the fog of war" sometime, especially as it relates to non-state combatants.
camlok
 
  0  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:08 pm
@ehBeth,
Hear hear!!

It's ironic, isn't it, Beth, the UN in the land of the biggest war criminals/terrorists the world has ever known.
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hightor
 
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Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:08 pm
@ehBeth,
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Move it somewhere the money will be appreciated - and don't plop it in the middle of a big city.

Have different countries host it for every session — like the Olympics.
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And no, I don't care if the US doesn't stay in the UN.

Yeah, the "USA! USA!! USA!!!" chant gets on my nerves as well.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:11 pm
@ehBeth,
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I'd prefer that the entire UN be moved out of the US and moved to a country where the money is needed.

Canada?
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hightor
 
  4  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:12 pm
@camlok,
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You don't like to consider points that are worthy of being looked at, hightor, but you are hardly alone in this.

I consider them; I just don't rate them with the same degree of importance.
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And this from the land of free and open discussion, all topics are on the table.

If I didn't want the piece to provoke consideration and possibly discussion I wouldn't have post the link to it.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:13 pm
@hightor,
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Read up on "the fog of war" sometime, especially as it relates to non-state combatants.

Why don't you read up on the way Obama handcuffed American soldiers with ridiculous and fatal rules of engagement and get back to me.
camlok
 
  -3  
Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:20 pm
@coldjoint,
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Why don't you read up on the way Obama handcuffed American soldiers with ridiculous and fatal rules of engagement and get back to me.


Do you care as much about the German soldiers who were taking part in the supreme war crimes, illegally invading sovereign nations, coldjoint? How many of these US "soldiers" should be in prison? Certainly the "American sniper", if he wasn't already in Hell.
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ehBeth
 
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Sat 15 Sep, 2018 12:26 pm
https://splinternews.com/mueller-s-manafort-probe-shows-beyond-a-doubt-it-s-no-d-1829081929

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With the latest news that former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort has pleaded guilty to conspiracy to obstruct justice and conspiracy against the United States and agreed to cooperate with the Mueller investigation come additional revelations of possible illegal lobbying by a powerhouse lobbying firm and a prominent law firm. Caught up in that probe is former Obama White House counsel Greg Craig.

Craig served as White House counsel during the first year of President Obama’s administration.

According to CNN, federal prosecutors in New York are contemplating charges against Craig over whether he failed to register as a foreign agent, along with the law firm where he formerly served as a partner, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP. Mueller referred an investigation of Craig and Skadden to federal prosecutors earlier this year, CNN reported.



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All of this confirms that both Democrats and Republicans are involved in the dark world of foreign lobbying. And Mueller, for his part, seems to be abiding by his mandate to pursue any possible crimes his team may come across in the course of their investigation. It quashes any attempt by the Trump camp to paint the probe as merely a Democratic “witch hunt,” an argument that was preposterous from the outset.



we've read about Skadden a few times already this year ... including

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/us/politics/skadden-law-firm-mueller-investigation.html

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For much of its 70-year history, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom has been a go-to firm for Wall Street, representing corporations like Pfizer and DuPont in acquisitions and becoming the first law firm in history to broker $1 trillion in mergers in a year.

But when one of its former lawyers, Alex van der Zwaan, admitted this past week that he lied to the special counsel investigating Russian election interference, his guilty plea shined a light on a profitable line of business that Skadden mostly keeps quiet: its work for unsavory foreign figures and their Washington lobbyists.

Mr. van der Zwaan, 33, acknowledged that he misled investigators about his communications related to the firm’s work for the Russia-aligned former president of Ukraine, Viktor F. Yanukovych, done in tandem with the former Trump campaign aides Paul Manafort and Rick Gates. Both were indicted on money laundering and other charges related to their work in Ukraine.


People always think they're so smart and can play with the Russians without getting themselves into trouble. I've seen it a few times in my line of work. Don't mess with the Russians - they don't care if they take you down and don't mind killing.
 

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