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Builder
 
  -2  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 02:30 am
Trump is saying he had a great conversation with our new PM in Australia, Scott Morrison.

Unlike his attitude with former PM Trumble.
hightor
 
  3  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 04:31 am
@Builder,
Any predictions as to how long Morrison will keep his job?
izzythepush
 
  3  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 06:29 am
Quote:
The Trump Organization's finance boss, Allen Weisselberg, has reportedly been granted legal immunity in the probe into Michael Cohen.

He was summoned to testify earlier this year in the investigation into Cohen, Donald Trump's longtime former lawyer, US media report.

Cohen pleaded guilty on Tuesday to handling hush money for Mr Trump in violation of campaign finance laws.

Mr Weisselberg, Chief Financial Officer, is the latest to get immunity.

On Thursday, it emerged that David Pecker, head of the company that publishes the National Enquirer tabloid, was also given immunity.

Mr Weisselberg is reportedly mentioned on a tape secretly recorded by Cohen in 2016 in which a hush money payment to an alleged lover of Mr Trump is discussed.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45301884
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hightor
 
  3  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 06:56 am
Quote:
Trump was a symptom, not a cause. The problem is way deeper than him.

(...) American individualism has morphed into narcissism, perfectibility into entitlement, and exceptionalism into hubris. Out of that, and more, came the insidious malignancy of Trump. It will not be extirpated overnight.

How Far America Has Fallen
Olivier5
 
  3  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 07:54 am
@hightor,
Asks good questions, and quote William Steding as providing some answers.

I checked him up, found this introduction to his last book, American Deliverance:

Quote:
.... It was the unforced errors of American leadership, the apathy of the American electorate, and fundamental inversions of American values and practices that pushed the United States from its pinnacle of power. In the realm of foreign affairs during America’s superpower era, engaging militarily in Vietnam was the first egregious error. Kennedy and, moreover, Lyndon Johnson, justified U. S. involvement in Vietnam by the simplistic fear of a cascading domino-effect of communism that might somehow propagate to American soil some 8,600 air miles away but which, of course, never made it within 8,500 air miles of reaching American shores (even though the Viet Cong succeeded in running the U.S. out of the country). The second grand mistake in foreign affairs followed the events of 9/11 when George W. Bush and Dick Cheney allowed emotional vengeance in Bush’s case, and a chicken hawk’s romanticized thirst for bloodletting in Cheney’s case, to cast a criminal act—9/11—as an act of war. The power of law enforcement, which would have been supported by most of the world outside of Osama bin Laden’s circle of power, was set aside for neoconservative delusions of American grandeur that resulted in the isolation of the United States from its allies and cost thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. Even today, some fifteen-plus years later, a final accounting of this exercise in imperial overreach cannot be summed. Victory—which was never clearly defined by Bush or Barack Obama—remains an elusive fantasy. These unforced errors are, however, only a part of the story of American decline.

Apathy in American politics is nothing new, although the post-Vietnam, post-Watergate era was marked by Americans taking a long—forty-plus year—vacation from politics. Fatigued by the social and political upheaval of the 1960s and by broad cynicism toward government following Watergate, more than half of Americans disengaged from politics. This abdication of civic duty was compounded by the effects of accelerating affluence that lulled Americans into a lethargic state of stewardship of American values. This American stupor also allowed the degradation of traditional Constitutional protections by political maneuvering like the legal (but-not-right) acts of gerrymandering in Congress, and extraordinary rulings by the United States Supreme Court, like Citizens United, that compounded the concentration of power among the moneyed class of American corporatists, including Charles and David Koch. This stupor allowed the future to be directed by the few who remained engaged and enraged; by extremists who seized the levers of power and by those who could afford to purchase even more power. Notwithstanding the apparent progress marked by the election of America’s first African American president, Obama, in 2008, by the elections of 2016 the rudder on America’s ship of liberty was dangling from its hull.

Leadership issues and this general electoral malaise accentuated by rising affluence in the late stages of the twentieth century also compromised three critical American dispositional values that had helped the U.S. rise from ‘The Land of the Free’ following the American Revolutionary War, to ‘The Land of Opportunity” following the Civil War, to its ‘Superpower’ position after World War II. Individualism, or the notion that Americans were possessed of free will and took responsibility for its expression thereof, was replaced by narcissism. Perfectibility, or the idea that Americans always strive to make things better than the way they were found, was exchanged for an adolescent sense of entitlement. And, exceptionalism—the exemplar kind—where Americans attempted to set the example for others to follow, was set aside for hubris. The upheaval associated with flipping these values to their evil-twin modality allowed, among other things, the election of what psychologists have termed the “malignant narcissism” of Donald Trump as president. And, as evidence of the power of the presidency and the servile behaviors of Republicans who controlled Congress, Trump was allowed to inflict much more damage on America and the world than any of his forty-four predecessors.

The question for the post-Trump era is, What now? The broad answer lies in how we address the question, What does it mean to be an American? More specifically, what values do we choose to support moving forward and what is the story they tell about our fundamental identity? In the period of cyclical crisis we emerge from today, the values we embrace and the manner in which we execute them will determine whether America moves forward as the world’s steward of goodwill, or discards its legacy becoming—simply and tragically— the next empire to be tossed into the dustbin of history. The stakes are high and the outcome uncertain. But, as I will argue in what follows here, among the elements of success are: a return to political engagement, most importantly at the state and local level; a commitment to personal and collective moral resilience; and the reconstitution of authenticity and virtue. In short, this is what I refer to as leading from the soul.


https://ameritecture.com/author/william-steding/
hightor
 
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Sat 25 Aug, 2018 08:38 am
@Olivier5,
Thanks for post the Steding intro. Good stuff.

I might take a small exception to his explanation for LBJ's pursuit of the war in Vietnam. I don't think he was all that fearful of Communism reaching the USA or overrunning the world — I think he was fearful of being labeled as "soft on Communism". While fear of a domino effect was ignorant and rather simplistic it might have provided a slightly better excuse for entering a military conflict than fear of one's domestic political enemies. I think he really felt that his hands were tied. Post 9/11 politicians are similarly constrained and are expected to pursue hopeless wars we have no chance of winning out of the fear that they might not look sufficiently opposed to terrorism.
Setanta
 
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Sat 25 Aug, 2018 08:48 am
@hightor,
Before he died, Robert McNamara admitted to having lied about the so-called Gulf of Tonkin incident. Johnson was always an ambitious politician, and he was facing a presidential campaign in 1964, and may have still contemplated a run in 1968. The widening war took the heart out of him by 1968, though.
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camlok
 
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Sat 25 Aug, 2018 09:40 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
That’s because they think they are idealists......


As do you, yet you defend the deepest of evil, centuries long deep evil.
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 25 Aug, 2018 09:42 am
Quote:
China has said it is "irresponsible" of President Trump to suggest it was not putting enough pressure on North Korea over its nuclear programme.

Mr Trump had tweeted that China was "not helping" because of trade tensions with the US.

A Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said this was "contrary to basic facts" and China was "seriously concerned".

On Thursday Mr Trump called off US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's planned trip to North Korea.

He said that insufficient progress was being made in dismantling Pyongyang's nuclear programme.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-4530789
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camlok
 
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Sat 25 Aug, 2018 09:43 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Prove they are hate groups or admit that you cannot.


They are hate groups because they operate upon the total lies of US governments, which are renowned liars known far and wide for blaming their own atrocities on others just so they can steal their wealth, wealth that should feed starving children.
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camlok
 
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Sat 25 Aug, 2018 09:45 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
So what do you think? Hate groups are actually love groups?????


Stop with your phony sanctimonious crap, glitter. Anyone who defends war criminals, terrorists, baby killers should not be moralizing like you do.
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camlok
 
  -2  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 09:47 am
@izzythepush,
I'm especially impressed by your intelligent and incisive comments, Izzy.
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 09:49 am

D'Souza: Demokkkrats vs Nazis, who was worse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=475&v=F-pZFlg6DZU
camlok
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 09:49 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Yeah, all the former presidents since 1952 have not been responsible regarding North Korea..


All the former prezes since Truman have been Class A war criminals. Can you explain how 3/4 of a century of US war crimes and terrorism against the people of Korea equates to "responsible"?
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camlok
 
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Sat 25 Aug, 2018 09:51 am
@hightor,
It hasn't just been since Trump arrived, has it, hightor?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 25 Aug, 2018 10:08 am
@gungasnake,
D’Souza says Adolf Hitler was a "left-wing zealot" who frequented the same pub as Lenin; that Josef Mengele was a progressive because he performed abortions in postwar South America; and that Hitler stole the idea for the Final Solution from the genocide of Native Americans. And that this particular slaughter, much like every other problem in America, was done by the Democratic Party.

reasoning logic
 
  -3  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 10:10 am
@coldjoint,
Have you been following this story?

Blickers
 
  4  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 10:42 am
@Walter Hinteler,
D’Souza has a lot to say for a guy who just got through doing eight months.
camlok
 
  -1  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 10:49 am
@Blickers,
Quote:
D’Souza has a lot to say for a guy who just got through doing eight months.


Don't you believe in free speech?

How about all your presidents, the war criminal ones, which is every one since WWII? Don't they always have a lot to say? Don't you sit enraptured by your personal favorites?
camlok
 
  -3  
Sat 25 Aug, 2018 10:55 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
and that Hitler stole the idea for the Final Solution from the genocide of Native Americans.


You doubt that it wasn't a dandy example for any and all tyrants around the world.

If the totally righteous, upright and moral Americans can resort to genocide, why can't we?
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