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@Blickers,

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Indictment: Russians also tried to help Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein presidential campaigns

Am I suppose to care about this?

@coldjoint,

You're the guy who said Alyssa Milano is nuts for saying there was a connection between Russia and support for the Green Party. Turns out there is. It was all over the papers.

Oops, not the approved right wing sources, which are the only sources of your information. That explains why you didn't know it.

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@coldjoint,

Quote Trump:"They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people."

Quote coldjoint: ...I assume, are good people."
There you have it. Would like a link to all the illegals committing crimes? And it clearly means not all illegals.

Sorry, but a sentence which says your people are drug couriers, criminals, rapists and also, YOU ASSUME contains some good people means that most of your people are lowlife. Heck, Trump was even sure that they were criminals, were sure they were drug couriers, was sure they were rapists, but he was NOT sure that some good people were among them, he was just assuming.

And you think this sentence clears Trump of accusations of racism against Hispanics? Drunk

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@coldjoint,

Quote Blickers: Obama has every right to say Trayvon could have been his son, he's had more murder threats against him than any other president.

Quote coldjoint: Now you can prove that comment about the death threats. You must have a source.

Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service

US President Barack Obama is the target of more than 30 potential death threats a day and is being protected by an increasingly over-stretched and under-resourced Secret Service, according to a new book.
By Toby Harnden in Washington
8:34PM BST 03 Aug 2009

Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service.

Some threats to Mr Obama, whose Secret Service codename is Renegade, have been publicised, including an alleged plot by white supremacists in Tennessee late last year to rob a gun store, shoot 88 black people, decapitate another 14 and then assassinate the first black president in American history.

Most however, are kept under wraps because the Secret Service fears that revealing details of them would only increase the number of copycat attempts. Although most threats are not credible, each one has to be investigated meticulously.
Telegraph

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@Blickers,

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Although most threats are not credible, each one has to be investigated meticulously

Piss in the wind, in other words.

I'd still like to see his admin face up to the ******* mess they've made of Libya.

If there's any genuine threats against him, and his criminal SoS, I'd expect them to be coming from people who lost their future in that nation.

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@Builder,

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Piss in the wind, in other words.

You go piss in the wind. I'd like to see you in a job where several people have been assassinated in the past and have your bodyguards decide not to check out threats because they don't seem "credible".

Jeffrey Dahmer was seen kidnaping one of his victims and someone called it in to the cops. They police didn't go over to investigate because they didn't find the report "credible".

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@Blickers,

Still ignoring the elephant in the room, meaning Libya's total destruction by the Obama admin?

You know he blamed Clinton for lying him into invasion? I bet he's not too concerned though, after the nation's gold was divvied up.

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Excellent compilation video from your president.

I'm not surprised that he won.

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@Builder,

Ellen Brown's article on Libya:

http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/libya.php

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While several Middle Eastern allies have backed up the Saudi response to Canada, the reaction from Western countries has been muted thus far.

"It's a little bit disappointing that no one feels they're in a position to come out and support the Canadians on issues that just a few years ago they probably would have been a lot more vocal on," said Peter Salisbury, a fellow at London-based think tank Chatham House.

Experts fear the spat could set a new tone for discussions about human rights among the international community. They warn that the Trump administration's downplaying of human rights in foreign policymaking will further enable authoritarian rulers to carry out abuses.

US President Donald Trump has been reluctant to publicly criticize Saudi Arabia for its rights record, and the State Department was criticized for failing to single out the kingdom in the introduction to its 2017 human rights report.

"(Saudi Arabia's) actions are in many ways enabled by the Trump administration's shift of focus away from human rights by and large," said Brookings Institute fellow Hady Amr. "The President of the United States has expanded the boundaries of what is considered normal behavior. Because of that other countries are much freer to act within those boundaries."

On Tuesday, a State Department spokeswoman said that although "we have a regular dialogue with the government of Saudi Arabia on human rights and other issues," the US was encouraging Saudi Arabia and Canada to sort out their differences amongst themselves.

CNN

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@Blickers,

Blickers wrote:

Quote Alyssa Milano:

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“Why else would anyone cast a protest vote in Ohio when there’s so much at stake?”

So what's the problem with what Alyssa said?

I definitely have a problem with someone who assumes that votes for the Green Party are a protest vote. While I'm not a fan of the US version of the Green Party, there is a small core group of people who thinks they are the only voting option. Those people are not going to vote Democrat for any reason.

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@Robert Gentel,

Downvoting is still cheapening your forum. Anybody watching this thread or others like it can easily see that the down voting feature is totally misused and is basically used as a weapon.

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@ehBeth,

Ideally you are right and probably right about people who always vote Green.

However there is another aspect right now in the democrat party between some of the more activists self styled socialist democrats and so called establishment democrats that is in play. When there is so little difference between the two and times are what they are right now with Trump and gaining control or at least taking some control from the republican House and Senate, a green vote makes a lot of difference.

The whole democrat struggle is encouraged by Russian sources because they do not want democrats to gain any ground. The logical question is why?

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

However there is another aspect right now in the democrat party between some of the more activists self styled socialist democrats and so called establishment democrats that is in play. When there is so little difference between the two and times are what they are right now with Trump and gaining control or at least taking some control from the republican House and Senate, a green vote makes a lot of difference.

Hardcore Green voters are generally not Democrat voters who somehow got away. There are a few but that hardcore of somewhere under 1% of US voters are Green, not Democrat rebels who can be tempted back.

Democrats who vote Green on an occasional protest basis are a different issue/problem.

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@ehBeth,

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Ideally you are right and probably right about people who always vote Green.

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Four Biggest Takeaways From Bombshell Leaked Audio Of Rep. Devin Nunes

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"This puts us in such a tough spot. If Sessions won’t unrecuse and Mueller won’t clear the President, we’re the only ones, which is really the danger…We have to keep all these seats, we have to keep the majority. We do not keep the majority, all of this goes away.”

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Saving America in the face of leftists canceling law and order

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Fascist is as Fascist does... and that isn't Donald Trump or the Constitutionalists who back him. MSM, leftist professors, globalist financiers, social media and politicians, wear your swastikas proudly. You've earned them

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Ironically, it is President Trump, working tirelessly to restore economic and Constitutional virtue to our beleaguered republic, who is constantly tagged with fascist monikers by mobs who personify those traits. Battling to respect the sensible laws already in place, Trump and his administration are relentlessly under fire from an ignorant socialist minority actively breaking those laws, egged on by corrupted educators and megalomaniacal democrats and media.

From a truthful Canadian site, strange but true, as Canadian news is very biased.

https://canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/dru080818.jpg

https://canadafreepress.com/article/saving-america-in-the-face-of-leftists-canceling-law-and-order

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https://c3.legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/HT-Resist-600-LI.jpg

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/08/branco-cartoon-tech-got-your-tongue/

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BUSTED: Jim Acosta CAUGHT LYING ON AIR by Hispanic Floridian Trump Supporter

A Hispanic Trump supporter just wants to know why Acosta lied about the number attending Florida rally. I bet he knows about the extreme bias but wants to ask Acosta.

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Partial Transcript:

You don’t know any better, huh.

You didn’t do your research before coming here, huh?

it’s 30,000 peo…Was it full. Was it full. It looked full. (Off-Camera woman: It was full) It was full.

And there were people waiting outside. People couldn’t get in

I want to ask you, you say you are true a reporter, report the truth.

How many people was here?

Acosta: unintelligible

Hey Jim, Jim , I’m not being hard. Jimmy, 30,000 people capacity and you say 10.

Jimmy, 30,00 people and you say 10. Why, I’m just wondering why?

Jimmy, why? Why?

https://theblacksphere.net/2018/08/busted-jim-acosta-caught-lying-by-hispanic-floridian-trump-supporter/

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@ehBeth,

Quote ehBeth:

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I definitely have a problem with someone [actress Alyssa Milano] who assumes that votes for the Green Party are a protest vote. While I'm not a fan of the US version of the Green Party, there is a small core group of people who thinks they are the only voting option. Those people are not going to vote Democrat for any reason.

Of course, you are free to vote for anyone you want. And I did say that Alyssa Milano's comment was somewhat harsh.

I do think the overwhelming majority of Greens are Democrats who got away. I have to admit that I have conflicting opinions on the Greens.

On the good side, they are the most outspoken people on the issues of environmental damage and concentration of wealth, they really emphasize those issues even more than many Democrats. In that sense they can act as an influence to push the Democrats toward paying more attention to those issues. For instance, if two Democratic candidates are running for the nomination and one is much stronger on environment and concentration of wealth, the Democrats have to contend with the scenario that if they go with the more conservative candidate they will drive more people to vote Green in the general election. It'll only be a few percentage points but the country is fairly evenly divided now, a few percentage points are critical in most elections.

Which brings us to the second part, when the Greens do decide that the Democratic candidate is too conservative the increased Green votes can throw the election to the Republicans. This is what happened in 2000. If the Greens' second choice 80% - 20% Democratic over Republican as the studies show, the Democrats win Florida in 2000 and Al Gore is president for at least four years.

So yes, I do think that Alyssa Milano's analysis was harsh on the Greens, because the Greens do much good in moving the country's conversation toward environmental issues and accelerating concentration of wealth at the top. Unfortunately, the Russians have indeed figured out that the more votes the Greens get in close national elections, the better the chances of the Republicans winning. So they gave aid to the Greens in 2016 to defeat Hillary, among many other activities unrelated to the Greens.

Alyssa Milano's comment emphasized the negative aspect of the Greens while ignoring the positive things they bring to the table. That's being partisan, not insane. And the Russians absolutely did help the Greens in 2016.

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