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maporsche
 
  3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 06:44 am
@blatham,
I’ve got one; I’ll be back home at a computer tomorrow.
blatham
 
  3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 06:49 am
@maporsche,
Thanks but problem now solved. I had to download and use another browser. Have no idea why the WP site suddenly gained this glitch re Chrome.
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maporsche
 
  4  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 06:54 am
@blatham,
That last line is key.

People who are not here to tout the pros of certain policy positions but are just here to divide the left are WORKIG FOR TRUMP. Not literally (no paycheck) but functionally.
blatham
 
  4  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 06:58 am
Today's edition of Voices From the Right Charles Sykes
Quote:
...At that news conference in Helsinki, the world was confronted with an extraordinary stew of narcissism, appeasement, moral surrender and the chronic dishonesty that Republicans have been willing to tolerate for so long. But now the stakes are higher.

In just a few days, President Trump undermined the global world order, weakened our alliances, cast doubt on our commitments to NATO, sided with Vladimir Putin over our own intelligence agencies and suggested that the Russians be allowed to interrogate a former ambassador to their country. Despite the attempted walkbacks, clarifications and various obfuscations about dropped contractions, the damage is real. And now Mr. Trump wants Mr. Putin to come to Washington.

The danger should be obvious. That’s why mere expressions of outrage simply are no longer adequate.
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blatham
 
  4  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 07:11 am
Here's a NYT headline
Quote:
News Analysis: Hamas and Israel Are in a Perilous Cycle. Is War a Miscalculation Away?

Reading it reminded me how little credit we give to Trump's son in law for the bang up job he's doing bringing peace to the Middle East. I guess he's a genius too.
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Blickers
 
  3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 07:18 am
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
"Trump winning an election" is neither an attack on democracy nor treason.
If done with the aid and cooperation of a hostile foreign power which has a ton of nukes pointed at our cities it's definitely an illegal attack on democracy and possibly espionage.

Quote:
There is also nothing treasonous about demanding that NATO deadbeats pull their own weight.
Say, do you have the figures for how much our NATO allies pay US companies for the military hardware they purchase from us? The Brits and French also make some weapons systems, but they mostly pay us. They sure as hell don't get it from Russia or China.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 07:43 am
@Blickers,
Quote:
Maria Butina, the Russian woman charged in federal court last week with acting as an unregistered agent of her government, received financial support from Konstantin Nikolaev, a Russian billionaire with investments in U.S. energy and technology companies, according to a person familiar with testimony she gave Senate investigators.

Butina told the Senate Intelligence Committee in April that Nikolaev provided funding for a gun rights group she represented, according to the person. A spokesman for Nikolaev confirmed that he was in contact with her as she was launching the pro-gun rights group in Russia between 2012 and 2014. He declined to confirm whether Nikolaev gave her financial support.

Nikolaev’s fortune has been built largely through port and railroad investments in Russia. He also sits on the board of American Ethane, a Houston ethane company that was showcased by President Trump at an event in China last year, and is an investor in a Silicon Valley start-up.

Nikolaev has never met Trump, according to his spokesman.

However, Nikolaev’s son Andrey, who is studying in the United States, volunteered in the 2016 campaign in support of Trump’s candidacy, according a person familiar with his activities. Konstantin Nikolaev was spotted at the Trump International Hotel in Washington during Trump’s inauguration in January 2017, according to two people familiar with his presence.
WaPo
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Lash
 
  -4  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 07:49 am
@blatham,
This is a desperate ploy to control the populace through violent intimidation — the New McCarthyism. If voters disagree with the current presiding establishment power, accuse them of treason. It’s old, tired, pathetic, and instructive of how insidious the collusion between the DNC and the news media has become.

They act as one.

Speak your truth, VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE and **** the power. We will eradicate this corrupt old guard of constant wars for profit and the enslavement of black and brown people for prison profits. The most damaging treason has been perpetrated by office-holders who turned the US government into a pay for play carnival for elites and a healthcare Holocaust for the rest of us.

We are coming for you.

blatham wrote:

This is going to happen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DirN93jWAAAOa3R.jpg

Those European intel agencies are telling us something we ought to be able to say we already knew. And, whatever particular narratives they push, right wing media will magnify Russian black propaganda. There is a natural affinity and allegiance in these two crowds. But an entity such as Fox will be targeting it's base, already converts. The Russian activities will augment other GOP messaging strategies (Warren = Pocohantas = liar = stealing American Indian heritage) and push them via social media into the mainstream media (which is losing its position as data source for citizens).

We'll see all of this broadly, including here. It will be a reprise of "Clinton corruption", of Sanders with a halo and Hillary (whoever becomes the Dem candidate) as a screeching shrew or as a snooty, elitist empty suit (who was not a hero in war but actually a coward).

So, understand that folks on this site who behave precisely as I'm saying, are either dupes (most likely) or in on the game.

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Lash
 
  -1  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 08:03 am
@blatham,
This **** flew straight from the colluding ass of David Brock.
Blickers
 
  3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 08:10 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote McGentrix:
Quote:
Sure it's not "Republican"?

Quote Monterey Jack:
Quote:
Does "Republican" end with a d? Were you paying attention in grade school?

If it doesn't at the present time, maybe it should from now on.

Republicad. I like it. Very Happy
izzythepush
 
  2  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 08:18 am
@Lash,
You leave Dave Brock alone. I'm still a big fan even after all these years.

https://lastfm-img2.akamaized.net/i/u/avatar170s/a9d9065cf88749ef9d72d44f6e48f8db.jpg
Lash
 
  0  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 08:20 am
@izzythepush,
If that guy grows a grey pompadour and loses his soul, he’s in trouble.
Lash
 
  0  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 08:21 am
@Blickers,
Republican’t
oralloy
 
  -3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 08:25 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
If done with the aid and cooperation of a hostile foreign power which has a ton of nukes pointed at our cities it's definitely an illegal attack on democracy and possibly espionage.
What law would this be breaking?

Blickers wrote:
Say, do you have the figures for how much our NATO allies pay US companies for the military hardware they purchase from us? The Brits and French also make some weapons systems, but they mostly pay us. They sure as hell don't get it from Russia or China.
I have no idea.
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izzythepush
 
  4  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 08:27 am
@Lash,
He's wonderful, still going strong and still very chatty and friendly.

And he'll be playing in Faversham in a couple of weeks time.

http://www.mountephraimgardens.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/A-new-day-logo-festival-copy-1.jpg
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izzythepush
 
  4  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 08:29 am
@Lash,
Swap the a for a u and you've got it.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 09:24 am
Quote:
The FBI believed Donald Trump's foreign policy aide Carter Page had "been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government" during the 2016 election campaign, according to newly released documents.

Mr Page's relationships with Russian intelligence officials are highlighted in court applications which led to him being put under surveillance.

He has denied the accusations.

Mr Trump has now said it looked like his campaign was illegally spied on.

The surveillance applications were granted and renewed by several different judges sitting in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

The FBI released the previously secret document on Saturday night., following Freedom of Information requests by several US outlets.

It contains 412 pages of heavily redacted material which includes the surveillance applications, their later renewals, as well as warrants surrounding the investigation into Mr Page.

"The FBI believes that Page has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government," the October 2016 application to the court states.

According to the documents, "the FBI believes that the Russian government's efforts are being co-ordinated with Page and perhaps other individuals associated with" Mr Trump's presidential campaign.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44916853
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 10:05 am
@maporsche,
Quote:
but are just here to divide the left are WORKIG FOR TRUMP.


Trump still has the best chance of uniting this country and the Left will not stand for that. Their divide and conquer crap has blown up in their faces. And if anyone here helped in anyway to do that they should be proud of it.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 10:17 am
@coldjoint,
Trump stands NO chance of uniting the country when he has spent the last year and a half oonly doing things that the quarter of the country that is his base wants him to and doing NOTHING for the other three uarters of the country. His agenda was rejected by the majority and he has done nothing for us, We will NOT forget that in November. WE outvoted him in 2016. Polls give Dems a 10 point advantage in generic ballots. We won't forget, joint.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sun 22 Jul, 2018 10:36 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
We won't forget, joint.

"We" who is that? Would that be you and the turd in your pocket? You do not echo anywhere near the majority of this country who just want to support Trumps policies and live their lives without the hate you and the Left thrive on.
 

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