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Olivier5
 
  6  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 07:00 am
@Lash,
At this point, we know that the ticket Trump-Pence was elected thanks to a massive push by the Russian, and it would appear that the campaign was in touch with the Russian and asked them for help.

That is treason. And it has serious geopolitical consequences. Already Trump is behaving as a Russian asset, undermining NATO, etc.

If it was anybody else than the president, you bet he would be in jail, and perhaps even in death row. Remember Julius and Ethel Rosenberg?
blatham
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 07:15 am
@ehBeth,
Thanks. I'm not going to dig in on this one. But if the thesis has merit, there will have to be some accounting of how such physical differences in the brain have come about. Culture (family, community) are clearly causal.
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Lash
 
  -3  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 07:18 am
@Olivier5,
None of that is proven. It’s merely supposition buoyed by a constant hysterical national drumbeat.

I believe it is likely that Russian operatives fooled around online to foment increased strife among Americans. Trying to turn that into a crime by Trump is preposterous.

hightor
 
  6  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 07:37 am
@Lash,
Quote:
You know Builder’s comment was a figure of speech...

Actually I don't know that.
Quote:
Why you front so much?

"Front?"

Look, when people make an outrageous statement they should be called out on it. None of those people have been convicted or even charged.
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Lash
 
  -2  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 07:40 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
They belong in jail.

Clinton and her criminal cohorts in the DOJ and CIA are the ones heading for a prison cell.

‘headed to’

Come on.
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 07:50 am
In today's edition of Voices From The Right
Joe Scarborough
Quote:
Republicans should be repulsed
...Are today’s Republicans now so tribal as to blindly endorse a foreign policy warped by President Trump’s obvious allegiance to a former KGB chief who controls Russia through repression, bribery and political assassination and who has called the collapse of that evil empire the “greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century”?


Michael Gerson
Quote:
Trump is smashing the hopes of oppressed people everywhere

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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 07:56 am
Quote:
The House speaker hasn’t made concrete progress on his key legislative priorities. Instead, he has been spending his final months in office trying to help Republicans keep their majority.
WP
Yes. Power is everything to Ryan and to the whole modern GOP. And they are not going to retain power by being truthful.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 07:59 am
@Lash,
What remains to be proven, exactly? What I said is common knowledge...
Olivier5
 
  5  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:03 am
@Lash,
Builder absurdely assumed that IF Clinton goes to jail THEN Trump won't. Like if justice was a fight between two political opponent, one winning and the other one losing.

Just because Clinton may have some issues with the law (?) doesn't mean that Trump ain't a traitor... The cases are not linked.
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:07 am
Quote:
Trump is a real-world political science experiment
How far will Republicans follow their leader?
...Researchers like him have long tried to understand the power of leaders and the willingness of the public to hold them accountable. And rarely do they get a real-life experiment like Trump to help them answer some huge questions at the heart of democracy:

How much power do presidents have in swaying public opinion? Will the base always follow even if a president swings wildly from one position to another?

And there’s another key question at play here that matters a lot for the future of Trump’s presidency: If prominent Republican leaders start breaking away from Trump because they don’t like his ideas or temperament, will the base also break?

In essence, Trump is providing an unprecedented opportunity to test the “follow the leader” theory of political science — and to see if Trump will push his followers to a breaking point.

...The answer: “On average, across all of the questions that we asked, when presented with a liberal policy, Republicans became about 15 percentage points more likely to support that liberal policy” when they were told Trump supported it, Pope says. They follow their leader. “The conclusion we should draw is that the public, the average Republican sitting out there in America, is not going to stop Trump from doing whatever he wants.” The effect even held true on questions about immigration. If Trump supported a lax immigration policy, his supporters said they did too.
Vox
Yes. Obviously.
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oristarA
 
  1  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:09 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

At this point, we know that the ticket Trump-Pence was elected thanks to a massive push by the Russian, and it would appear that the campaign was in touch with the Russian and asked them for help.

That is treason. And it has serious geopolitical consequences. Already Trump is behaving as a Russian asset, undermining NATO, etc.

If it was anybody else than the president, you bet he would be in jail, and perhaps even in death row. Remember Julius and Ethel Rosenberg?


Your English is one of the best in this thread or in this forum. Reasonable and graceful, that is my comment.
Lash
 
  -3  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:12 am
@Olivier5,
People throw treason and traitor around liberally.

The term that carries weight has a more specific (but not specific enough) set of criteria.
blatham
 
  7  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:15 am
@Olivier5,
"Clinton is corrupt" was, as we now know, a key propaganda meme pushed by Russian trolls in their attempts to aid the Trump campaign.
blatham
 
  4  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:19 am
Today's winner in the "Now there's Occam's razor for ya" category
Quote:
Hannity guest theorizes that Russians were "hired, owned and paid by the DNC to hack themselves"
MM
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Lash
 
  -2  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:29 am
@blatham,
Nah. It was believed and investigated by plenty of Americans since her implication in Whitewater and her surprise discovery of incriminating documents in the WH basement.

As much smoke as that woman emits, she is guilty of an inferno of corruption.

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/05/us/hillary-clinton-s-fingerprints-among-those-found-on-papers.html

Hillary Clinton's Fingerprints Among Those Found on Papers
By NEIL A. LEWISJUNE 5, 1996

Republicans on the special Senate Whitewater committee released a report from the Federal Bureau of Investigation today showing that the fingerprints of the First Lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton, were found on records discovered in the White House family quarters two years after they were first sought by investigators.

The F.B.I. report also found that the documents, copies of billing records from Mrs. Clinton's work as a lawyer in Arkansas, revealed fingerprints of five others. They were Vincent W. Foster Jr., the deputy White House counsel who committed suicide in July 1993; a personal assistant to the Clintons who had also worked at Mrs. Clinton's law firm; an aide to the Clintons' current lawyer, and two other law firm aides.

This is clearly important and relevant evidence," said Michael Chertoff, the counsel for the committee's Republicans. "It clearly means she touched these records at some point in time."

But Mark Fabiani, a special White House counsel, said Mrs. Clinton had acknowledged that she probably read the documents in 1992 during the election campaign when questions about Whitewater were being raised by reporters. He added that she had testified under oath that she had nothing to do with the documents during the two years they were missing and did not know how they ended up in the family quarters.

The bureau report did not say how long ago the fingerprints were left on the documents or in what sequence, things beyond the scope of fingerprint technology.

Mr. Fabiani said the report vindicated the White House because the F.B.I. did not find fingerprints from any of the Clinton aides who Republicans have suggested might have spirited the records out of Mr. Foster's office after his death.

"Yet another Whitewater allegation has evaporated," he said.

The whereabouts of the documents during the two years they were sought by investigators is the subject of an investigation by the special prosecutor for Whitewater issues. The F.B.I. fingerprint analysis had been ordered by the prosecutor, Kenneth W. Starr, who recently agreed to share it with the Senate panel.

The billing records were turned over in January. The records detail Mrs. Clinton's work on behalf of a troubled savings and loan association owned by James B. McDougal, the Clintons' Whitewater partner, who was convicted of bank fraud last week in Arkansas.
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They always had their cronies in newsprint. They’re smart in that way.
revelette1
 
  4  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:34 am
@Lash,
I don't doubt the older generation still have lingering hate for the Clinton's stretching back into the 90's, but the younger generation who were just starting to vote probably didn't pay too much attention to their parents when that was going on. As for those in the 90's; the Russian trolls just helped them.
Lash
 
  -2  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:38 am
@revelette1,
Good. We shouldn’t be ignorant of history.
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revelette1
 
  3  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:40 am
Analysis: Congress has 3 tools to counter president on Russia

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izzythepush
 
  2  
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 08:43 am
Bill Clinton was the first and only president to take a real interest in the NI peace process. The Good Friday Agreement would never have been signed were it not for him. He also stopped the Serbs slaughtering ethnic Albanians in Kosovo.

He, unlike most of his predecessors and antecedents actually made the World a better place. That's why I strongly believe he was the best US president since FDR.

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