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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:22 pm
Quote:
Lisa Page May Seek Immunity, Judicial Watch’s Chris Farrell Says
Former FBI lawyer 'has the opportunity to become the anti-Strzok' by cooperating with congressional investigators

Yes!!
https://www.lifezette.com/2018/07/lisa-page-may-seek-immunity-judicial-watchs-chris-farrell-says/
blatham
 
  4  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:26 pm
@revelette1,
Of course they don't buy today's act. They aren't that stupid (I'm not speaking of his base here). They are doing propaganda and they know it. They have just built up a complex of justifications to excuse anything he says or that hey say. To them power is everything.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:29 pm
@blatham,
Where is Killary? Isn't this her big chance to hurt Trump? Is she packing?
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maporsche
 
  5  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:33 pm
@blatham,
Good news though, we never need to take politicians literally again.

If the next Democrat president says something like “You can keep your doctor” and that turns out not to be true for every single American then the right won’t complain, because comments and statements are just meant to convey that they are serious about things, not literal promises or anything.

Can’t wait to give them some of their own medicine. Oralloy will support this too since R’s did it first.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:33 pm
http://patriotretort.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Corporal-Coup.jpg
Presidential material?
http://patriotretort.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Corporal-Coup.jpg
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blatham
 
  5  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:47 pm
@maporsche,
Well, Obama meant to say, "You can't always keep your doctor".
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:50 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
I'm not speaking of his base here)

Exactly what will re-elect Trump. You people are stuck on stupid. Shocked
blatham
 
  4  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:52 pm
You'll probably want to check this out. Ed Kilgore, Jon Chait and Eric Levitz on Trump's Helsinki performance
Quote:
Ed: as I suggested in the take I wrote a bit earlier, it’s the optics of this that are potentially most disastrous: How much weaker could Trump have possibly looked?

Ezekiel: [moderator] I think the reaction of Republicans and conservative media will help shape what the polling reaction is — but will any effect last until the midterms?

Ed: Regarding the midterms, it depends on some other variables, including the scary possibility that after this abject display of submission, Trump feels the need to show strength. This is indeed a threat to arguably one of the most important political developments of the last year: the total fusion of Trumpism with the conservative wing of the GOP.

Eric: Yeah, how Trump responds now will be revealing. The man does not like getting this kind of press.
NYMag
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 03:58 pm
Quote:
EXPOSED: Peter Strzok Grew Up In Iran, Worked As Obama and Brennan’s Envoy To Iranian Regime

It figures. No, these people are not traitors, my ass they aren't.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exposed-peter-strzok-grew-up-in-iran-worked-as-obama-and-brennans-envoy-to-iranian-regime/
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glitterbag
 
  6  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 04:09 pm
You can smell the desperation.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 04:12 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
You can smell the desperation.

Since Nov. 2016. Where is Killary? She should be all over this, why isn't she?
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MontereyJack
 
  5  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 04:16 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:

Exactly what will re-elect Trump. You people are stuck on stupid.

25% of the country rarely elects a president, especially considering 60% of the country doesn't think he should be president. once let alone twice.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 04:25 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
25% of the country rarely elects a president

That is why Killary lost. 25% supported her and the rest are dependent on government, they have to vote Democratic. And where is she and why is she so silent on what everyone has jumped on to diss Trump? I would like an answer from someone.
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blatham
 
  4  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 04:27 pm
This piece by Harold Myerson is very bright. The evidence it is very bright is that he advances a thesis I've been writing about for years - that the loss of "communism" as a unifying or galvanizing enemy led to Republicans replacing that handy political tool with another new enemy - "liberalism". der linkums
Quote:
Trump Didn't Flout GOP Norms — He Epitomized Them
BY HAROLD MEYERSON | JUL 17, 2018
When the Cold War ended and the Soviet Union collapsed, the American Right was faced with a conundrum. For most of the 20th century, it had defined itself by its anti-communism, the sole idea on which all wings of the disparate conservative community could agree. Moreover, anti-communism gave the Republicans a handy club with which to beat Democrats, since they could always attack the Democrats for being either soft on communism or, since Democrats believed in a mixed economy, being closet communists themselves. Then as now, Republicans were seldom deterred by an absence of evidence.

But with the 1991-1992 dissolution of the Soviet Union, the barbarians were no longer at the gate. The immediate beneficiary of this brave new world was presidential candidate Bill Clinton, whom the Republicans couldn’t attack, in the sudden absence of communism, for being soft on communism. There was still China, of course, but Republicans in those days and for some time thereafter liked China as a place where American corporations could do business.

Over the past quarter-century, however, Republicans have risen to the occasion: They have invented an enemy within whose purported terrors still drive GOP voters to the polls. The process began right after the Commies disappeared, in the 1992 Republican primaries, when Pat Buchanan proclaimed a culture war on liberals, minorities, and modernity itself—that is, on his fellow Americans. By 1994, Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh were singing from the same foul hymnal, and one year later Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes came along to swell the chorus. From that time forth, the Republican mantra was established: The enemy was here; the enemy was modernity; the enemy was the Democrats.

...But what we saw yesterday was also the reductio-ad-absurdum of the great Republican switcheroo: With the Communists gone, our real enemy is the enemy at home. And so a KGB thug with blood on his hands is the Republican president’s man, while Robert Mueller and the FBI are the cancer growing within. This is completely nuts, but it is also the logical culmination of the last 25 years of Republican evolution.
glitterbag
 
  4  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 04:53 pm
@blatham,
Apparently last night it shocked both Republicans and Democrats and everybody condemned Trump's weak performance.......However today, many Republicans are softening their criticism because apparently they fear looking flexible and in agreement with the other side of the aisle......the dreaded liberals.
layman
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 05:04 pm
As Trump his own damn self noted:

"I could shoot a progressive on 5th Avenue and triple the support in my base.
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blatham
 
  3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 05:05 pm
@glitterbag,
Yes. They'll hug Putin and Trump and go nowhere near rabid liberals. For the good of the country.

And I'll add a short bit to that last post.

It is implicit in what Meyerson and I argue that conservatism is a reactionary ideology or perhaps response is the better word. It needs an enemy. That is it's core aspect. It's why Fox and Limbaugh behave as they do and say what they say. Predictably. It's what excites the base (they've been trained).

Conservatism, a la Burke, was a response to the French Revolution. Existing power structures in England and Europe were suddenly under threat from the unruly masses.
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 05:12 pm
@coldjoint,
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3875498/pg1

Somebody in this picture is definitely getting thrown under the bus and there is no reason on earth for somebody like Lisa page to want it to be her.
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gungasnake
 
  -3  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 05:15 pm
The Hildeabeast (and George Soros) may still control the Democrat party to such an extent that nobody could deny her another run in 2020.
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blatham
 
  2  
Tue 17 Jul, 2018 05:23 pm
As a descriptive term, "useful idiots" is very useful. Folks get sucked in (by others who are smarter or trickier or just more evil) and get used for the benefit of the tricky evil folks, unknowingly. We know this happens. And the phrase is succinct. Thus it is useful.

That "unknowingly" element is important in what the phrase attempts to make more clear. It suggests no necessary personal evil on the part of those used. They are complicit only because they were duped.

But the phrase becomes inadequate where those who are duped go on to do WTF? acts for which the term "idiot" is insufficient.

So let me propose an variant phrase. I think we could say that it applies to some even on this board.

"Useful dipshits".

No copyright here. Go ahead and use it.
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