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glitterbag
 
  3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:04 pm
@Debra Law,
This is not at all amusing. I'm deeply concerned about his learning curve, and I doubt the US can afford to wait for that blowhard to get educated.
layman
 
  -4  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:10 pm
Quote:
[Trump's] choice for defense secretary, retired Marine Gen. James Mattis, stressed his support for the alliance in his U.S. congressional confirmation hearings last week.

Trump’s views, in an interview with German daily Bild and The Times of London, contradict Mattis, Steinmeier said.


The Donald and Mad Dog have already worked out a good Mutt and Jeff routine for the Eurosaps, eh? Mad Dog will tell them he's really on their side, and will do his best to persuade his boss to keep pampering them, but, that the guy is pretty unreasonable and they're gunna have to start forking over some bigtime cash if they want NATO is survive, eh?

Quote:
Gabriel suggested Europeans exhibit more self-confidence in dealing with Trump. “We’re not weak and inferior,” he said.


Yeah, right, eh?
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Frugal1
 
  -3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:14 pm
@glitterbag,
The nation doesn't have time for you, and your libtard friends to get educated.
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layman
 
  -2  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:19 pm
@Frugal1,
You must agree not to disclose their commie-ass plans before you can pick up your lucrative monthly retainer and comprehensive benefits, eh?

Protest on Demand! What a great concept. The Mafia has used it for years, so it's nothing new, of course, but, still...

They call them "operatives." Hmmm, where have I heard that term used before?
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Baldimo
 
  -3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:20 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
This is not at all amusing. I'm deeply concerned about his learning curve, and I doubt the US can afford to wait for that blowhard to get educated.

What's wrong with those nations paying more for the military that protects them from the Russians? We know the US pays the lions share to keep nato running, we pay more then the requested 2% and other countries like Germany and France pays less than the 2%. Who needs nato more, Germany/France or the US?
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georgeob1
 
  -3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:35 pm
@glitterbag,
Educated about what? The issue of our European NATO Partners failures to live up to their Alliance defense spending targets is about 40 years old now. In the 1970s and 1980s the UK and Federal Republic of Germany generally came very close while all teh others lagges considerably. The situation got a lot worse after the Collapse of the USSR and now onlt the US , the UK and to a degree France make a serious effort. The rise of Russian beligerancy under Putin has resurrected the problem, though many in Europe take a different view of it. Trump is entirely correct in raising awareness of this contradiction now.

It is odd that those who for the last decade have steadfastly ignored and failed to react to Putin's affronts and aggressions, are suddenly so reactive and alarmed, while at the same time they criticize Trump for a very timely and sensible comment on a much needed remedy.
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layman
 
  -2  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:50 pm
It starting to worry me that I am lagging behind in the downvote category. George, Frug, and others, are out performing me.

WHY AINT I AHEAD BY 50 POINTS!?

Gotta be some ulterior reason...let's see here...

I got it. Because more people censor me, that's why.

Yeah, that's the ticket! I win, after all!
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RABEL222
 
  2  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:51 pm
@farmerman,
NO!! He is a crooked lying piece of dung who will say anything to protect himself. He realizes that too many people want insurance so he is doing what he always does and telling them what they want to hear. Maybe after he invests in drug stocks he might go with medicare type insurance and like Bush did tie it into social security without a tax increase so it will go broke sooner.
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McGentrix
 
  -3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:51 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Note to participants here:

Two or three individuals (frugal and layman are two) consistently give my posts thumbs down regardless of what I might post.

Feel free to counter their trolling with an up vote for my posts (where you deem that worthy) and a down vote for theirs (where you deem it deserved).


Did you really just spend time worrying about your thumbs up count? That seems out of character.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:53 pm
@McGentrix,
Hell, I get down votes all the time. I love it because it shows my post got under somebody's thin skin like Trump's.
Debra Law
 
  5  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 05:59 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

This is not at all amusing. I'm deeply concerned about his learning curve, and I doubt the US can afford to wait for that blowhard to get educated.


He is unteachable. He will fulfill his roles as the chief prevaricator, daily spectacle provider, and **** pot stirrer, which draws all the attention to him ... a role that feeds his insatiable ego. While the spotlight will be on the Trump carnival show (and the embarrassment he causes for all of us), the real danger lurks in the shadows behind him.
RABEL222
 
  2  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 06:04 pm
@revelette1,
Quote:
to have disagreed with him a lot.


If they dident they wouldent have been O K'd. But once they are in office hold on to your rear end. The one thing one can count on is a conservative lying.
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RABEL222
 
  3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 06:08 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Because in the case of these two, particularly frugal, it's a part of the trolling behavior.


Blatham you forgot the the Georgeob1 troll.
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 06:12 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

blatham wrote:

You're speaking of the Politifact "lie of the year" award. They said:
Quote:
"Obama's ideas on health care were first offered as general outlines then grew into specific legislation over the course of his presidency. Yet Obama never adjusted his rhetoric to give people a more accurate sense of the law's real-world repercussions, even as fact-checkers flagged his statements as exaggerated at best.
And as we know, he apologized for this. Do you predict Trump will admit he got something wrong and apologize?

And let's recall that the subsequent lie of the year was awarded to "Obamacare is a government takeover of healthcare". Are you going to join them in that
one?


Perhaps Obama was offering his descriptions of his healthcare system as a "general outline" however it didn't appear that way in his oft repeated and very emphatic assurances about keeping your present plan & doctor. In addition the other provisions in the law, and actions of the bureaucracy administering the program to consolidate medical practices, hospitals and other service providers, as well as issue mandates effectively wiping out numerous insurance programs were themselves a direct assault on the very promises Obama made.

I don't know what constitutes the "politifact lie of the year" , and frankly I don't either care or accept its presumed authority in the matter.

As to the "takeover of healthcare " bit , (1) it isn't relevant to the question at hand, and (2) I made no such assertion. It is however the takeover of a major segment of the health insurance market, pervasive in its effects of all the rest of the health care insustry, and an unsustainable financial & bureaucratic failure for the industry.



Lie of the year? Was it Obama saying "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan?

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RABEL222
 
  3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 06:18 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
now insured who weren't before.


And unfortunately many democratic politicians made Obama change parts of his plans because they were bought by the drug companies as well as the large hospitals, insurance companies and doctors. Its a small miracle that it passed at all.
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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 06:24 pm
@McGentrix,
Actually, I don't. I've never done the thumbs up/down thing anywhere I've been active (though in the last week I have been doing it). But I consider this pattern of behavior I noted as an instance of trolling (there's little or no discernment in the act, it's just knee-jerk). Tough to find means of dealing with that, as you know. But it's a behavior I thought I'd point out and do some little thing to counter it.
blatham
 
  3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 06:26 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Blatham you forgot the the Georgeob1 troll.

Lately, he can duplicate some of the characteristics but I do not include him in that category for a number of reasons.
giujohn
 
  -3  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 06:34 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Ha, dignity and Trump in the same sentence. Pass the pepto bismo.


Maybe some Geritol instead.
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McGentrix
 
  -1  
Mon 16 Jan, 2017 06:35 pm
@blatham,
You've noticed that every "conservative" poster on A2K has several negative thumbs on each and every post right? Has that pattern of trolling gone under your radar?

It's just part of the A2K game.
 

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