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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:44 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Trump is a traitor,

What is France going to do about that, have a Muslim holiday?
ehBeth
 
  4  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:44 pm
https://trump-russia.com

Quote:

In Trump/Russia: A Definitive History, I chronicle the many years Trump has spent wooing Russian money and power. From the collapse of his casino empire—which left Trump desperate for cash—and his first contacts with Russian deal-makers and financiers, on up to the White House, I reveal the myriad of shady people, convoluted dealings, and strange events that suggest how indebted to Russia our forty-fifth president might be.

As the story unfolds beyond the publication of my book, I’ll be writing here with further thoughts and observations.


https://trump-russia.com/2018/07/13/the-problem-with-helsinki-summit-notes/#more-17567


(this is the guy who wrote the Rolling Stone article people have been talking about)
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blatham
 
  5  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:46 pm
Quote:
Sen. John McCain lit into President Donald Trump for his joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin Monday, calling the appearance “one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory.”

“The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naiveté, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate,” the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee said in a statement.
Politico
Olivier5
 
  5  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:47 pm
@coldjoint,
He's not betraying France, but the US. So the real question is: What is the US going to do about it?
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blatham
 
  6  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:49 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Trump is a traitor, period. There are no extenuating circumstances, and he can't plead insanity. He's just a Russian asset.
Any other conclusion is increasingly less sustainable.
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blatham
 
  5  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:51 pm
Quote:
During his Fox Business News show Monday, host Neil Cavuto called President Donald Trump’s failure to denounce Russian President Vladimir Putin for the Russian interference in the 2016 election “disgusting,” saying that the presser “set us back a lot.”

“That made it disgusting. That made his performance disgusting,” Cavuto said of Trump’s refusal to even criticize the Russian President. “Only way I feel. Not a right or left thing to me. It is wrong.”
TPM
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gungasnake
 
  -4  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:54 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Trump is a traitor, period. There are no extenuating circumstances, and he can't plead insanity. He's just a Russian asset.


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hightor
 
  6  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:58 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
What is the Mueller investigation all about?

Um, try to look at it a bit more objectively. Mueller is conducting an investigation into Russian interference and meddling in the election of 2016. Other than announcing various indictments, what has Mueller's team actually said? Seems they've been pretty closed-mouth about the whole thing. This doesn't reflect an "obsession". It's the president's defenders and his political opponents who've been responsible for all the conjectures, predictions, "I-told-you-so's", warnings, backtracking, fantasizing, etc. It's the public and the media who've been trying to turn this into a circus, not Mueller.
gungasnake
 
  -4  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:03 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Sen. John McCain lit into ..... blah blah blah oink oink oink oink...


You mean John McCain the cretin dickhead who threw a US presidential election on orders from the deep state? THAT John McCain???
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blatham
 
  3  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:15 pm
Here's a headline at Media Matters
Quote:
Brian Kilmeade: Trump can't admit Russian election meddling because he thinks it makes his presidency look illegitimate

That is nowhere near an adequate explanation for what's going on here. It's a propagandist attempt to excuse the man.
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blatham
 
  6  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:19 pm
For **** sake
Quote:
Before President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin took questions during their news conference Monday in Helsinki, Trump alluded to an “interesting idea” Putin shared with him about how the two countries might respond to Russia’s attack on American democracy — an attack that helped Trump get elected.

“During today’s meeting, I addressed directly with President Putin the issue of Russian interference in our election,” Trump said. “[We] spent a great deal of time talking about it, and President Putin may very well want to address it, and very strongly, because he feels very strongly about it, and he has an interesting idea.”

Putin’s “idea,” which he floated during a summit that took place less than 72 hours after special counsel Robert Mueller indicted 12 Kremlin military intelligence officers for hacking Democratic targets during the 2016 campaign, is to allow Russia to interrogate American law enforcement and intelligence officials — including, presumably, the intelligence officials who helped put together Mueller’s indictment, which includes rich details about the inner workings of Russian military intelligence.
TP
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gungasnake
 
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Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:25 pm
http://www.bearfabrique.org/bimages_files/image013.jpg

The Spetznaz guys (Russian special forces) were generally less than impressed with the demokkkrats they were collecting. One opined that:

"У них маленькие члены такие, что не вижу, как им удается сохранить их количество".....


"Their dicks are so little, I don't see how they can hold their population levels together..."
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maporsche
 
  7  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:29 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

combined with the fact that the Democrats created this investigation with the specific goal of it being a witch hunt


That is sooooo far from reality that I'd accuse you of being on mind altering drugs.


The most obvious reason is that, not being in power, the Democrats have NO ABILITY to start an investigation, much less one in the DOJ/executive branch.
blatham
 
  6  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:36 pm
Quote:
My recent story argues that we have underestimated the possibility that the Russia scandal is much worse than it looks, that the depth and extent of the president’s covert ties to Russia might run deeper and longer than many people expect. Even for those of us harboring serious suspicions about this, Trump’s performance in Helsinki was stunning. I expected some artifice, some superficial gestures of Trumpian independence, perhaps some finger-wagging for show at Russia’s naughty behavior, and assurances it would not recur. What transpired instead was far worse, and far more blatant. Trump is engaged in an act of open betrayal against his own country.
Jon Chait
Exactly. I think most of us were expecting some pretense or facade of anger and remonstration. But Trump couldn't even manage that. He was submissive and beaten down.
oralloy
 
  -4  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:37 pm
@maporsche,
The Democrats created the investigation by fabricating a sea of lies and innuendo and then throwing a tantrum until someone in the justice department blinked and authorized the investigation.
ehBeth
 
  2  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:40 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
He was submissive


just listened to a left/right political debate on this

commentators on both sides used this word. one, on the right, said #45 behaved like a supplicant

urrfff

don't like to hear that about any political leader

he couldn't even manage smug <sigh>
maporsche
 
  6  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:43 pm
@oralloy,
Nope. That's not how investigations are begun.

They are begun by someone in a position to start an investigation, starting that investigation.

Any claim that it's otherwise is a LIE and a FALSEHOOD. For someone like yourself, who keeps on and on and on and on talking about how you never lie and are never wrong. THIS is a lie. THIS is wrong in all FACTUAL bases.
blatham
 
  6  
Mon 16 Jul, 2018 03:51 pm
@ehBeth,
Bizarre, isn't it? Trump's behavior and words work directly against the portrayal of self vs others he always tries to project - himself as domineering alpha male.
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