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oralloy
 
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Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:47 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
I was not even aware that there was any kind of a threshold which would take a post out of visibility altogether. Sheeeesh....
-5 or more collapses the post in the same manner as when someone is on ignore. You can still click "view message" to make it appear again.

You can turn this off in your preferences settings, but it is on by default for anyone who never bothers to set their preferences.
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ehBeth
 
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Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:52 am
@oralloy,
I believe it is also the default for anyone visiting the site without logging in.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Sat 14 Jul, 2018 10:52 am
@Lash,
Trump started the nastiness, both home and abroad.
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revelette1
 
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Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:03 am
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Special counsel Robert Mueller’s new indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence officials outlines a broad Kremlin conspiracy to use sophisticated cyberattacks to manipulate America’s 2016 presidential election. President Trump’s own intelligence officials have warned that not enough is being done to prevent Russian meddling again this year.

But if you think the security of American elections is of concern to the president of the United States, think again.

While enjoying some rest and relaxation on Saturday at a private club he still owns at profits from — Turnberry in Scotland — Trump posted a tweet in which he suggested, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the hack of the DNC in 2016 was an inside job, and then another in which he blamed Obama for not doing more to stop Russian meddling.

There is no evidence that the theft of DNC emails — ones later published by WikiLeaks as part of a pro-Trump disinformation campaign — were the product of an inside job, as Trump’s tweet about the “DNC Server” suggests.

On the contrary, the U.S. intelligence community and even Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee have concluded that Russian hackers were responsible for stealing emails from Democratic targets — a conclusion that’s bolstered by the number of details contained in Mueller’s latest indictment, including painstaking descriptions of how the hacks were carried out.

Trump’s attack on Obama for not doing more about Russian meddling ignores that the then-Republican presidential candidate was warned that Russia might try to infiltrate his campaign in August 2016, but did nothing about it.

From CNN:

Quote:
Trump was personally warned in August 2016 by senior US intelligence officials that foreign adversaries — including Russia — would likely attempt to infiltrate his team or gather intelligence about his campaign, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The security briefing included information about potential interference by foreign actors, including Russia, according to sources familiar with a memo that detailed the August 2016 briefing…

Trump was also told that the Russian government was trying to meddle in the election and that Russia played a direct role in hacks against the Democratic National Committee, NBC News reported in October 2016. Internal DNC emails were published by WikiLeaks about one month before Trump received the briefing.



Trump’s tweet bashing Obama also overlooks that Obama wanted to issue a bipartisan statement in the summer of 2016 detailing what the intelligence community knew about Russian meddling and offering federal help to states. But his effort was stymied by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who expressed “skepticism that the underlying intelligence truly supported the White House’s claims” about Russia interference, the Washington Post reported. McConnell ultimately blocked the release of a statement.

Shortly before receiving his August 2016 briefing about Russian interference, Trump publicly encouraged Russian hackers to go after Hillary Clinton. Mueller’s latest indictment indicates that on that same day — July 27, 2016 — Russian hackers launched unprecedented cyberattacks against Clinton’s team.

Then, in October, stolen emails published by WikiLeaks became the centerpiece of Trump’s closing message.

Despite the fact that Trump mentioned WikiLeaks no fewer than 164 times during the final months of the campaign, after he won the election, Trump had the gall to claim that WikiLeaks didn’t impact a single vote.

Trump’s tweets on Saturday came the morning after the White House responded to Mueller’s latest indictment with a statement that expressed no concern about Russian election interference, but instead sought to emphasize the president’s purported innocence.

And despite the new information about Russian President Vladimir Putin orchestrating a conspiracy to undermine American elections, Trump — who is under criminal investigation for colluding with Putin — refused to cancel his upcoming summit with the Russian strongman. Not only that, but Trump still plans to meet alone with Putin when the two leaders get together in Helsinki on Monday.


TP

NSA director says Trump hasn’t ‘granted the authority’ to stop Russian election interference
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:12 am
Another protected class coming up?
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/map-696x366.jpg
Quote:
Normalization of Pedophilia Goes Mainstream, Child Molesters Rebranded as ‘Minor Attracted Persons’

Any progressives here support this? It is moral relativity at its finest.
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/normalization-of-pedophilia-goes-mainstream-child-molesters-rebranded-as-minor-attracted-persons/
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:16 am
@revelette1,
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Despite the fact that Trump mentioned WikiLeaks no fewer than 164 times during the final months of the campaign, after he won the election, Trump had the gall to claim that WikiLeaks didn’t impact a single vote.


How many times did Killary say she was afraid Trump and his supporters would not honor the results of the election? Your articles repeat the same crap over and over and never prove one thing.
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Olivier5
 
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Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:18 am
https://www.courrierinternational.com/sites/ci_master/files/styles/image_original_765/public/assets/images/trumppoutine_0.jpg

In a Moscow souvenir shop, 5 July 2017. Photo MLADEN ANTONOV / AFP - lifted from Courrier International.
Lash
 
  1  
Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:22 am
@izzythepush,
I’m only interested in placard slogans, actors, and TV shows.
You can have Wall Street.
revelette1
 
  5  
Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:22 am
@oralloy,
The Jury who voted for the indictments must not know the law then. Rolling Eyes A grand Jury was convened on August 3, 2017.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/03/what-is-a-grand-jury-trump-russia-mueller-investigation-215458
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:23 am
@Blickers,
Obviously, NATO is a very important component of the geopolitical strategy of the US and was crucial in retarding the aggression of the USSR. When did I ever say otherwise?

However, the original signatory nations didn't do us a favor by becoming members, and the Eastern European nations, the Baltic States and Turkey were all desperate to become members and not because they were of the belief that the Western Euro countries and Iceland would save them from Russian invasion. Clearly, they, just like the original members, wanted the protection of the US military promised by the treaty.

Without the US, NATO is pretty much a joke. The Pew polling demonstrates that most of the citizens of the Euro members of NATO are counting on the US to come to their rescue if Russia attacks and are not inclined to see their country come to the aide of a neighbor under a similar attack. How these citizens feel about NATO and their own defense matters, because it is their resistance to increased defense spending that has their leaders dragging their feet on the 2% commitment. Should Russian tanks roll into one or more of the Balkan States, and, for any reason, the US doesn't respond, if the people of Italy, Germany, the UK et al make it clear to their leaders that they don't want to go to war with Russia, do you really think any of their leaders are going to tell them "Too bad. We signed a treaty and regardless of what the US does we have to come to Estonia's aide?" Don't make me laugh.

Whether or not one accepts that European members of NATO get more benefit from it than the US they at least get the same, and it is entirely reasonable to expect them to pay for that benefit. Even if they all meet their spending commitments the primary burden of the treaty obligations falls on the US.

This is an absurd argument. There is absolutely no reason why the members should not meet the equitable commitment to which they all agreed. The only reason you are making the effort to cover for them is because it's Trump who is calling them out. We all know that if it had been Obama lecturing them you would have been all for it.

And since you are such a believer in the strategic importance of NATO, and so concerned about actions or statements that might undermine its integrity, what the hell message, about the solidity of NATO, do you think the reluctance to meet the spending commitment has been sent to Putin? He can read Pew polling, and he can certainly tell that all along, the biggest promoter of NATO has been the US. If he can somehow cause the US to distance itself from the obligations of the treaty, he can and will be a hell of a lot more aggressive with Europe.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:27 am
@Olivier5,
This drawing of Putin holding a baby with the face of Trump is based upon a propaganda poster showing Stalin holding a baby.

But there have been different billboard posters already earlier:

Quote:
https://i.imgur.com/WheI30V.jpg
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Unfortunately, we can't and wouldn't carve Scotland out of NATO so the Scottish leftists are free to make absurd statements like this. It's also something of a shame that the threat of invasion by an external power is so remote, because if Russian paratroopers started landing in the heather of Scotland tomorrow, the editors of "Scotland's Champion" would soil their kilts and first demand, and then beg "Mr. President" to send American troops.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:39 am
@Blickers,
It's simple. You made the case that the Russian Federation assumed all treaty obligations of the USSR. It's an academic argument because Putin isn't going to be deterred by a fellow named Blickers furiously waving the results of his research in his face. So continuing the hyper-technical debate, where is the treaty that turned territorial rights to Crimea over to Ukraine?
izzythepush
 
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Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:39 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I’m only interested in .................. TV shows.


How about this one?

Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Sat 14 Jul, 2018 11:41 am
@hightor,
It is truly sad that anyone is defending this arrogant, lying bastard because of partisan politics.
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