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Builder
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 05:28 am
@layman,
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This is the future if the "progressives" ever get power.


They're certainly the only really active elements in the DNC at this point in time.

I guess that's what happens when a tyrant has had her way with the upper management for a couple of years.
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layman
 
  -2  
Thu 28 Jun, 2018 05:58 am
The Democrats will soon be relegated to the status of a marginal "third party." A newly formed Socialist (euphemism for Commie) Party will supplant them. The overall result will be to effectively turn the country into a one-party system. And the one party aint gunna be the Socialists, eh?

layman
 
  -2  
Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:09 am
The Democrats will have caused their own downfall.

They have consistently promoted tribalistic identity politics, advocated ever-increasing social handouts, denounced "white privilege," assured their listeners that the country is now in the hands of white supremacist Nazis who must be opposed "by any means necessary," and generally stirred up division and hatred to the point that others have come to hate them, just like they hate themselves.
hightor
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:17 am
Quote:
I'm not sure you even watched the video, from that asinine comment.

Making a dramatic video is a great way to please and entertain an audience of slackjawed dittoheads. The same story, written out and properly referenced would be a joke. How many times do Trump supporters have to look at the same pictures of HRC anyway? Really, it's time to move on.
Builder
 
  -1  
Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:21 am
@hightor,
Quote:
Really, it's time to move on.


You'd best direct that comment to her supporters, and to the woman herself. She's currently on a "how I lost" tour globally, and many assume that if Trump was impeached, she'd slot right into the job by default.

Now that's some funny ****, right there.
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layman
 
  -3  
Thu 28 Jun, 2018 06:41 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
How many times do Trump supporters have to look at the same pictures of HRC anyway?


Never enough, for my tastes. Here it is again:



It never gets old.
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revelette1
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 08:07 am
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Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!" Trump wrote on Twitter Thursday morning. He went on to question why US law enforcement agencies weren't investigating other perceived influences on the election, which he has repeatedly said was rigged for his opponent Hillary Clinton.

"Where is the DNC Server, and why didn't Shady James Comey and the now disgraced FBI agents take and closely examine it? Why isn't Hillary/Russia being looked at? So many questions, so much corruption!" he wrote.

The President's tweet was sent roughly a half hour before the White House announced that the two leaders will meet on July 16 in Helsinki, Finland, where they will "discuss relations between the United States and Russia and a range of national security issues."

Trump's summit with Putin is likely to draw criticism from the US President's domestic critics, who accuse him of currying favor with Putin.
Speaking in Moscow on Wednesday, US national security adviser John Bolton said Trump would likely raise the election meddling issue during his sit-down with Putin. Bolton himself addressed it during his own meeting with Putin this week.

And he brushed aside suggestions that a Trump-Putin meeting would amount to conciliation from a President who intelligence agencies assess was favored by the Russian government.

"I think a lot of people have said or implied over time that a meeting between President Trump and President Putin somehow proves some nexus between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin, which is complete nonsense," Bolton said in Moscow.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo insisted during a CNN interview this weekend that Trump takes election meddling seriously.

"Make no mistake, President Trump agrees Russia interfering in our election is something they simply cannot do," Pompeo said, referring to the midterm elections. "I don't think he would take any umbrage with that."

CNN
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layman
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 08:33 am
As I have posted before, a group comprised of a good number of former government cyber and security experts has concluded that the DNC emails could not possibly have been stolen over the internet. That had to have been downloaded by an insider.

They were not "hacked," they were "leaked."

That post was for you, Rev.
revelette1
 
  5  
Thu 28 Jun, 2018 09:15 am
@layman,
Well, thank you so much for bringing another conspiracy theory. I suppose Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11, it was an inside job. Plenty of experts have been trying to convince us that for years.

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"Make no mistake, President Trump agrees Russia interfering in our election is something they simply cannot do," Pompeo said, referring to the midterm elections. "I don't think he would take any umbrage with that."


Trump better bring Pompeo up to speed.
layman
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 09:21 am
@revelette1,
You go, Girl! Just stay ignorant. It suits you.
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revelette1
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 10:23 am
@layman,
Got nothin again, layman.
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Lash
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 10:34 am
@layman,
layman wrote:

As I have posted before, a group comprised of a good number of former government cyber and security experts has concluded that the DNC emails could not possibly have been stolen over the internet. That had to have been downloaded by an insider.

They were not "hacked," they were "leaked."

That post was for you, Rev.

This is a disturbing, quite unpopular fact among most people here.
revelette1
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 10:43 am
@Lash,
Quote:
This is a disturbing, quite unpopular fact among most people here
.

Among most people everywhere except for conspiracy nuts.
Lash
 
  -3  
Thu 28 Jun, 2018 10:48 am
@revelette1,
A fact.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 28 Jun, 2018 10:54 am
@Lash,
If it is it'll be a first from that individual.
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layman
 
  0  
Thu 28 Jun, 2018 11:22 am
I didn't have much better to do, so...

Quote:
Why Some U.S. Ex-Spies Don't Buy the Russia Story

The Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) have been investigating the now conventional wisdom that last year's leaks of Democratic National Committee files were the result of Russian hacks. What they found instead is evidence to the contrary.

VIPS includes former National Security Agency staffers with considerable technical expertise, such as William Binney, the agency's former technical director for world geopolitical and military analysis, and Edward Loomis Jr., former technical director for the office of signals processing, as well as other ex-intelligence officers with impressive credentials.

Unlike the "current and former intelligence officials" anonymously quoted in stories about the Trump-Russia scandal, VIPS members actually have names. But their findings and doubts are only being aired by non-mainstream publications that are easy to accuse of being channels for Russian disinformation. The Nation, Consortium News, ZeroHedge and other outlets have pointed to their findings that at least some of the DNC files were taken by an insider rather than by hackers, Russian or otherwise.

The VIPS theory relies on forensic findings by independent researchers. They found that 1,976 MB of Guccifer's files were copied from a DNC server on July 5 in just 87 seconds, implying a transfer rate of 22.6 megabytes per second -- or, converted to a measure most people use, about 180 megabits per second...

Downloading such files this quickly over the internet, especially over a VPN (most hackers would use one), would have been all but impossible because the network infrastructure through which the traffic would have to pass would further slow the traffic. However, as Forensicator has pointed out, the files could have been copied to a thumb drive -- something only an insider could have done -- at about that speed.


https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-10/why-some-u-s-ex-spies-don-t-buy-the-russia-story
Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 11:28 am
@layman,
Since layman quotes from wikipedia, my quote is from there as well:
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On July 24, 2017, VIPS released another memorandum which also argued that the DNC was not hacked, this time based on a forensic analysis conducted by the anonymous entity "Forensicator" with whom they communicated via retired IBM employee Skip Folden. This analysis was based on DNC files released by Guccifer 2.0.[11] According to Patrick Lawrence's article in The Nation, the memorandum argued that the metadata in these files were altered to add Russian fingerprints, and that file transfer rate reportedly proved they were transferred locally.[12] Brian Feldman, writing in the New York Magazine, criticized the report for relying on "the 'metadata' of 'locked files' that only [Forensicator] had access to" pointing out that these phrases were meaningless. Feldman described the claims in Patrick Lawrence's article as "too incoherent to even debunk" and criticized its use of "techno-gibberish".[13]

According to John Hultquist of FireEye: "The author of the report didn't consider a number of scenarios and breezed right past others. It completely ignores all the evidence that contradicts its claims." Rich Barger, director of security research at Splunk, pointed out that the VIPS theory "assumes that the hacker downloaded the files to a computer and then leaked it from that computer" but overlooks the likelihood that the files were copied several times before they were leaked, potentially creating new metadata each time. Barger's comments were echoed by other cyber-security experts.[14] The Guardian Project founder Nathaniel Freitas independently reviewed Lawrence's article on behalf of The Nation, concluding that while "the work of the Forensicator is detailed and accurate," it did not prove the conclusions VIPS and Lawrence derived from it. Freitas stated that the high throughput suggested by the relevant metadata could have been achieved by a hacker under several different scenarios, including through the use of a remote access trojan, and that the leak hypothesis also requires "the target server ... to be physically on site in the building": "If the files were stored remotely 'in the cloud,' then the same criticism of 'it is not possible to get those speeds' would come into play." In sum: "At this point, given the limited available data, certainty about only a very small number of things can be achieved."[15]
wikipedia: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
layman
 
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Thu 28 Jun, 2018 11:47 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Well, Walt, first ya got this:

Quote:
Feldman described the claims in Patrick Lawrence's article as "too incoherent to even debunk" and criticized its use of "techno-gibberish".


Then ya got this:

Quote:
The Guardian Project founder Nathaniel Freitas independently reviewed Lawrence's article on behalf of The Nation, concluding that while "the work of the Forensicator is detailed and accurate," it did not prove the conclusions VIPS and Lawrence derived from it.


Which is it? Techno-gibberish or detailed and accurate?

The Nation is about as far left as you can get, btw.

The fact that you can imagine scenarios that might lead you to a different conclusions does not "debunk" the VIPS findings. They are good evidence for the conclusions they came to.
 

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