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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 07:31 am
@neptuneblue,
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these children are being used as pawns to further a political agenda
You've put your finger right on it. That is exactly what's going on. The amorality of this (and much else related) is worth fighting, tooth and nail.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 08:13 am
It was worth fighting for before the budget was passed, too.
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layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 08:38 am
Ya kinda gotta wonder why the cheese-eaters who are whining 24/7 about illegal alien children not being kept in adult detention centers weren't bitching while Obama was doing it, eh?

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There are essentially three policy issues that have become conflated in recent days: unaccompanied minors at the border, separating children from their parents at the border and families seeking asylum. We break down what those issues are and what it all means....

The Trump administration insists that this is not a new policy. Children have been placed in foster care when their parents were criminally charged with an immigration violation.

"The underlying policies ... have not changed," White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller said Tuesday.

The policies about separating children from their families were in place during the Obama administration. They go back to the administration of President George W. Bush.

Why the confusion? One reason: The administration's new 'zero tolerance' policy. Because of the "zero tolerance" policy, there are more separations happening
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/25245ea2ea7e7a7b94b34999502cfa2de059c4a8/c=0-297-2896-1933&r=x329&c=580x326/local/-/media/2018/05/29/USATODAY/USATODAY/636631913361867620-AP-Trump-Immigration-100215665.JPG

In this June 18, 2014 file photo, two female detainees sleep in a holding cell, as the children are separated by age group and gender, as hundreds of mostly Central American immigrant children are being processed and held at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Nogales Placement Center in Nogales, Ariz. The photos were taken by The Associated Press in 2014, when President Barack Obama was in office.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/05/29/heres-what-happening-immigrant-children-u-s-border/650755002/

Oh, so THAT'S the problem, eh? Trump is enforcing the law more regularly than Obama did--how HORRIBLE can ya get!? That bastard is even deporting MS-13 gang members. They are people who have many redeeming qualities too, ya know? If you don't believe it, just ask any cheese-eater.

For a cheese-eater, the more lawlessness, the more better.
layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 08:58 am
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:

You called that particular cartoon a lie but when it's presented to you as fact, you shift gears.


Fact!? Hahahahahahaha.
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layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 09:07 am
@layman,
Unlike their law-breaking parents, children crossing the border illegally are not charged with crimes. For some damn reason, Bush, Obama, Trump, et al thought these children would be better placed in foster homes than among adult criminals. God only knows why.

In an average year, there are about 11 million arrests made in this country. Most of them are not illegal aliens. But, ya know what!? They separate children from their parents when they arrest an adult. They don't let the children go serve time in the same cell, or anything.

It's just plain DESPICABLE, I tells ya!
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 11:42 am
Cecilia Munoz wrote:
"In 2014, we saw an enormous spike compared to what usually happens every year, in the number of kids crossing alone into the United States," she said. "And we didn't have enough shelter facilities, because we had a huge increase, so kids ended up piling up in Border Patrol lock-ups, which are no places for children."

"What the Obama administration did, which is what the law requires, is to find shelter facilities for those kids, which were put together by the Department of Health and Human Services. So the goal was to get kids out of the Border Patrol, into proper care by HHS, and then HHS is supposed to release them to the least restrictive setting, and in more than 80% of the cases, that was their parents who were already in the United States."


Jon Favreau wrote:
"This policy is new, cruel, and unprecedented," Favreau tweeted. "It was not an Obama policy. It was not a Bush policy. It was not a Clinton policy. That is a fact. And that is what all of us — Democrats and Republicans — should want changed as soon as humanly possible."

BI
layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:08 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Jon Favreau wrote:
"This policy is new, cruel, and unprecedented," Favreau tweeted. "It was not an Obama policy. It was not a Bush policy. It was not a Clinton policy. That is a fact. And that is what all of us — Democrats and Republicans — should want changed as soon as humanly possible."

BI


That link won't let me in. Who is Jon Favreau, and what the hell do his tweets matter? I guess it's this guy, eh?:

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A Twitter Fail Reveals That Media Narratives about Obama Still Trump the Truth

Why were we treating children worse than hardened criminals? Former Obama speechwriter (and current star of the Pod Save America franchise) Jon Favreau spoke for the outraged masses when he tweeted this:

[bogus tweet omitted]

Unfortunately for Favreau and his ilk, this isn’t “happening now.” It turns out that the picture is from 2014, when the Obama administration still ran U.S. immigration policy. In the lingo of Twitter, that’s what you call a “self-own.”

Did you see a picture of a “prison bus for babies”?....

Yes, I know that much of the nation is in the grips of Trump Derangement Syndrome, but does that fully explain the gullibility on display here?...

This is what happens when narrative trumps truth: Even responsible people are primed to believe lies.


https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/jon-favreau-twitter-fail-obama-media-narratives/

Nice try there, Jonny-boy.

pwned.
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layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:13 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Cecilia Munoz wrote:
"And we didn't have enough shelter facilities, because we had a huge increase, so kids ended up piling up in Border Patrol lock-ups, which are no places for children."

"What the Obama administration did, which is what the law requires, is to find shelter facilities for those kids


**** the law!!

Those kids belong with their parents. If their parents are in "Border Patrol lock-ups," then, by God, that's where the kids should be.

Can you believe what a heartless savage Obama was!?
layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:29 pm
Who knew!?

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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:32 pm
Another gangasnake clone for the newbies information.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:37 pm
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US eyes quitting United Nations human rights council

The Trump administration has exited various global agreements, but didn't confirm plans to quit the UN group

Is the United States planning an “imminent” withdrawal from the United Nations Human Rights Council?

According to an anonymous source that spoke with Reuters, it’s only a matter of time before the U.S. leaves the organization.


TP
layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 12:50 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

US eyes quitting United Nations human rights council


That aint true. Trump aint gunna quit the human rights council.

He's gunna withdraw from the U.N. completely, and throw their sorry ass out of NYC. Good riddance.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 01:00 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
The amorality of this (and much else related) is worth fighting, tooth and nail.

You( Dems, et al) have the market cornered on amorality and have for quite a while. How can you fight your own existence? This should be another way to highlight your hypocrisy, bring it on.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 01:05 pm
@revelette1,
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US eyes quitting United Nations human rights council

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The Human Rights Council was created in 2006 to supersede its corrupt predecessor, the UN Human Rights Commission, which at its end counted six of the most politically repressive regimes — Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Libya, China and Vietnam — as members


How are these countries on human rights? That commission is a joke, and the UN is a joke. Time to get out.
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2018/06/07/morton-klein-time-for-free-nations-to-leave-the-un-human-rights-council/
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layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 01:06 pm
Don't tell nobody, OK?

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When Trump “slammed the door” on Syrian refugees, liberals said the Statue of Liberty wept. They said it was a betrayal of American values, and a dramatic reversal of the Obama administration’s longstanding openness and compassion.

They were wrong. The vast majority of Americans has absolutely no idea that the “compassionate” Obama administration admitted less than 2,000 Syrian refugees in the first five years of the Syrian Civil War. Millions of men, women, and children were fleeing their homes, and the U.S. opened its doors to almost none of them.


https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/jon-favreau-twitter-fail-obama-media-narratives/
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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 01:20 pm
http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/20%20Luckovich.jpg?resize=807x807
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2018 01:48 pm
https://theblacksphere.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Trump-as-Iron-Man-1200x630.jpg
https://theblacksphere.net/2018/06/president-trump-lands-at-g7-summit-like-iron-man/
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