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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 12:15 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
but there is no evidence

Nobody has explained what actual evidence is in these cases. We see the IG is just as bad at finding it as Mueller.
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layman
 
  -1  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 12:35 pm
But, wait, that aint what Comey said:

Quote:
‘Foreign Actors’ Accessed Clinton’s Emails, House Committees’ Memo Find

“Foreign actors” accessed Hillary Clinton’s emails, including one that was classified “secret,” according to a memo produced by two Republican-led House committees.

This was discovered in a May 2016 email from FBI investigator Peter Strzok -- who also is criticized in the House memo for his anti-Trump texts with colleague Lisa Page. The email says that "we know foreign actors obtained access" to some Clinton emails, including at least one "secret" message "via compromises of the private email accounts" of Clinton staffers.

"Secret information' is defined as information that, if disclosed, could “reasonably be expected to cause serious damage to the national security.”
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 12:38 pm
@revelette1,
Quote:
President Trump reportedly questioned the reasoning behind NATO's opposition to Russia's annexation of Crimea and appeared to defend Russia's explanation for the move during conversations with world leaders at the G-7 last weekend.
The thing is, NATO blatantly violated international law when they used military force to seize Kosovo from Serbia. And they made a point of gratuitously causing as much offense to Serbia as they possibly could while doing it.

For NATO to now claim that it is wrong for Russia to do the very same thing (minus the gratuitous offensiveness) is hypocrisy at its worst. NATO really doesn't have a leg to stand on here.

I feel bad for Georgia and Ukraine. They are not responsible for NATO's aggression, yet they are the ones being punished for it.

I also feel bad for Serbia, for the suffering that NATO has inflicted on them.
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layman
 
  0  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 12:57 pm
IG Horowitz came across circumstances where a Trump campaign worker was found dead in the trunk of a car owned by Hilly Clinton. The corpse's hands were tied behind his back, and the back of his head had been blown off by what appeared to be a sawed-off shotgun, although the murder weapon was not found.

The IG said he found no evidence of foul play, characterizing it as "an obvious suicide."

Long about time for the appointment of a special counsel, eh?

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Brand X
 
  1  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 12:59 pm
@layman,
Now you know every investigation is just and with bias, or corruption. Wink
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layman
 
  0  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 01:09 pm
Now they're advancing the narrative that the "BO" referred to in incriminating emails, which was formerly blacked out, is not Barak Obama. They came up with Bruce Ohr, instead. It matches, see?

Quote:
Lawmaker blasts FBI's 'highly questionable redactions' to Strzok-Page texts

A key lawmaker is seeing red over all the black ink being spilled by the FBI redacting text messages between two FBI officials involved in the bureau’s probe of Hillary Clinton’s email server.

In the June 8 letter, Johnson repeated a familiar GOP charge that the bureau and the Department of Justice were withholding and redacting critical information to protect their agencies from embarrassment.

"These reviews showed highly questionable redactions without apparent legitimate reasons," Johnson wrote.

Johnson faulted the FBI and DOJ for not providing a reasonable basis for making the redactions. He referred in particular to a redacted, Aug. 5, 2016 text from Strzok that states "the White House is running this." According to Johnson’s committee, the "unredacted version appears to attribute the quote to an individual with the initials L.C." It is unclear who "LC" is.

Days before the 2016 presidential election, in a newly unredacted exchange, Strzok also writes that “I am still angry at them over this stupid BO DOD thing.” Fifteen minutes later, Strzok texts Page again stressing that he is “Just cranky at them for bad choice about BO.”

It is unclear who BO is.
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layman
 
  0  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 01:29 pm
The cheese-eatin left-wingers have no problem whatsoever with the likes of Clapper, Brennan, Comey, Obama, and Clinton conspiring to undo the results of an election.

And they had the gall to condemn Trump for saying the election was rigged and that he would not commit, in advance, to accepting the polling results.

Now THAT was the greatest threat to democracy ever made in this country if you ask any cheese-eater, eh?
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layman
 
  0  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 01:42 pm
Ya don't say...

Quote:
Inspector general refers five FBI employees for investigation over 'hostile' political messages

The OIG said that “five employees” have been referred for investigation into whether the messages violated FBI code.

It is unclear which five FBI employees have been referred for investigation.
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layman
 
  -1  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 01:46 pm
I should have known...Horowitz aint as stupid as Bloomberg tried to make him out to be, eh?

Quote:
“[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” Page texted Strzok.

“No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it,” Strzok responded.

Those texts “caused [the OIG] to question the earlier Midyear investigative decisions in which he was involved, and whether he took specific actions in the Midyear investigation based on his political views,” the report read.


Based on this, I'll tentatively retract my "obvious suicide" post.
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revelette1
 
  2  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 01:54 pm
Read here


and here
layman
 
  -2  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 01:54 pm
Imma just haul off and take a wild-ass guess that this perv was one of the "five,'" eh?

Quote:
The report also reveals that one FBI attorney assigned to the special counsel's team was found to have sent politically charged FBINet instant messages to other FBI officials.

That FBI employee sent messages such as: "As I have initiated the destruction of the republic...Would you be so kind as to have a coffee with me this afternoon?"

Another instant message read: "I'm clinging to small pockets of happiness in the dark time of the Republic's destruction."

The report did not reveal this FBI official's name, but did state that the official worked on both the Clinton email investigation and the Russia probe.


Well, cheese-eaters notwithstanding, this perv clearly understood that he was seeking to accomplish the "destruction of the republic," eh?

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layman
 
  -1  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 01:57 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:


That aint what the report said.

Nice try, cheese-eater.

Btw, who the HELL is Kyle Cheney?
revelette1
 
  2  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 02:01 pm
Joe Scarborough

Quote:
“Our review did not find documentary or testimonial evidence directly connecting the political views these employees expressed in their text messages and instant messages to the specific investigation decisions we reviewed.” ~IG Report quote that Trump enablers will ignore
layman
 
  0  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 02:06 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

Joe Scarborough

Quote:
“Our review did not find documentary or testimonial evidence directly connecting the political views these employees expressed in their text messages and instant messages to the specific investigation decisions we reviewed.” ~IG Report quote that Trump enablers will ignore



Morning Joe, eh? Hahahahahahaha.

Looks like Joey-boy didn't read this part of the report, eh?:

Quote:
Those texts “caused [the OIG] to question the earlier Midyear investigative decisions in which he was involved, and whether he took specific actions in the Midyear investigation based on his political views,” the report read.
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layman
 
  0  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 02:10 pm
And why not? It aint no kinda crime, if ya ask Lyin Jim Comey, anyway:

Quote:
Comey used personal email to conduct FBI business, watchdog report finds

DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz wrote that he found Comey's use of personal email to be "inconsistent with Department policy," citing what he called "the absence of exigent circumstances and the frequency with which the use of personal email occurred."

Horowitz also revealed that FBI agent Peter Strzok used his personal email account for government business. Most notably, Horowitz wrote that Strzok forwarded an email to his personal account regarding a proposed search warrant for former Congressman Anthony Weiner's laptop computer. Horowitz wrote that the email on Strzok's personal account contained information "that appears to have been under seal at the time" in federal court.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 02:19 pm
@layman,
Quote:
It aint no kinda crime, if ya ask Lyin Jim Comey, anyway:

Why do we have people lecturing us about the rule of law when they have blatantly ignored it? Who wants to answer that question?
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 02:29 pm
Quote:
“President Trump, now that you have the IG’s report, what are you going to do?”

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lnlgEJCUf7w/WyJLKuFspQI/AAAAAAABuFU/VsFXnwZn9pEo2LxYytNmjFpwSK4RNkVJwCHMYCw/Hillary-Clinton-Jail-Bars.001_thumb%255B1%255D?imgmax=800
Quote:
“I’m going to lock her up.”


Best birthday ever?
http://www.michellesmirror.com/2018/06/best-birthday-present-of-all-time-ever.html#.WyJOw55FrVw
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revelette1
 
  3  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 02:33 pm
@layman,
I sure didn't miss you.

Anyway, directly from the report with a link to the report. Unlike anything you have posted thus far on this subject.


Quote:
In particular, we were concerned about text messages exchanged by FBI Deputy Assistant Director Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, Special Counsel to the Deputy Director, that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations. As we describe in Chapter Twelve of our report, most of the text messages raising such questions pertained to the Russia investigation, which was not a part of this review. Nonetheless, the suggestion in certain Russia-related text messages in August 2016 that Strzok might be willing to take official action to impact presidential candidate Trump’s electoral prospects caused us to question the earlier Midyear investigative decisions in which Strzok was involved, and whether he took specific actions in the Midyear investigation based on his political views. As we describe Chapter Five of our report, we found that Strzok was not the sole decision maker for any of the specific Midyear investigative decisions we examined in that chapter. We further found evidence that in some instances Strzok and Page advocated for more aggressive investigative measures in the Midyear investigation, such as the use of grand jury subpoenas and search warrants to obtain evidence.

There were clearly tensions and disagreements in a number of important areas between Midyear agents and prosecutors. However, we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that improper considerations, including political bias, directly affected the specific investigative decisions we reviewed in Chapter Five, or that the justifications offered for these decisions were pretextual.

Nonetheless, these messages cast a cloud over the FBI’s handling of the Midyear investigation and the investigation’s credibility. But our review did not find evidence to connect the political views expressed in these messages to the specific investigative decisions that we reviewed; rather, consistent with the analytic approach described above, we found that these specific decisions were the result of discretionary judgments made during the course of an investigation by the Midyear agents and prosecutors and that these judgment calls were not unreasonable. The broader impact of these text and instant messages, including on such matters as the public perception of the FBI and the Midyear investigation, are discussed in Chapter Twelve of our report.


https://oig.justice.gov/press/2018/2018-06-14.pdf

Stozork and Page were not the sole decision makers.

There is no evidence that any of the decisions were made improperly or with political views but were the result of discretionary judgements and were not unreasonable.

Those text did cause the IG to question if biasness affected any decisions, but after examining documents and listening to testimonial evidence, they saw no biasenss in any of the early decision in the Russian investigation.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 14 Jun, 2018 02:39 pm
@revelette1,
Quote:
There is no evidence that any

collusion went on between the Trump campaign and Russia. Thanks. And just a reminder

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