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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 06:07 am
@izzythepush,
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French President Emmanuel Macron has compared telephone conversations with Donald Trump to making sausages, saying it is better to experience the finished product than examine the contents.

During a news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Paris, Mr Macron was quizzed about US reports that Mr Trump thought a recent phone call with the French president was “terrible”.

Mr Macron borrowed a famous quote he attributed to 19th-century Prussian statesman Otto Von Bismarck to illustrate his personal policy of refraining from making off-the-record comments about his conversations with world leaders.

A readout from the French presidency of Mr Macron’s call with Mr Trump last week said the 40-year old president had told his US counterpart that his decision to slap tariffs on the exports of US allies was both “illegal” and a “mistake”.

The shorter White House readout of the same call said the conversation had focussed on trade and immigration, without elaborating.

“Macron thought he would be able to speak his mind, based on the relationship. But Trump can’t handle being criticised like that,” CNN quoted an unidentified source familiar with the call as saying. “Just bad. It was terrible.”

Mr Macron has kept the press at a distance after he was dismayed by his predecessor Francois Hollande’s frequent off-the-record comments to reporters during his presidency.

“You can go and ask the people who make comments, but here in Paris we don’t make comments on how it went, or how hot, cold, warm or terrible things are. We just go ahead and do things,” Mr Macron said.

He added that he would have a “useful” and “frank” exchange with Trump at the G7 summit in Canada on 7-8 June about both issues on which they agree and those where they disagree.
The Independent
oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 06:29 am
@izzythepush,
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A White House communications aide who drew criticism for reportedly joking about Senator John McCain's cancer has left her role, an official says.
It's horrible that liberal phony outrage was able to cost someone their job. We really should consider transporting all the liberals to Guantanamo where they will not be able to harm anyone but each other.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 06:37 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
]It's horrible that liberal phony outrage was able to cost someone their job. We really should consider transporting all the liberals to Guantanamo where they will not be able to harm anyone but each other.
Aside from the McCain comment, Sadler had angered her boss Mercedes Schlapp by calling her a leaker in front of the president.

Should Schlapp and/or Trump be transported to Guantanamo as well?
Olivier5
 
  4  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 06:41 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Should Schlapp and/or Trump be transported to Guantanamo as well?

I'd love to see Trump in an orange apparel. The ton-sur-ton effect would be stunning.
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Olivier5
 
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Wed 6 Jun, 2018 06:47 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
“Macron thought he would be able to speak his mind, based on the relationship. But Trump can’t handle being criticised like that,” CNN quoted an unidentified source familiar with the call as saying. “Just bad. It was terrible.”

Macron's efforts to court Trump were a total waste of time and political capital. Let's hope the kid has learnt the lesson.
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MontereyJack
 
  3  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 07:57 am
@oralloy,
Nonsense. Definite probable cause for Mueller investigations. And a whole lot of evidence that something rotten has been going on with Russia and the Trump campaign. No one is being persecuted. And a lot of people have already proven to not be innocent.
farmerman
 
  3  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 08:27 am
@MontereyJack,
I see that even Newt is jumping off the melon truck by inferring that Trump, by pardoning himself, would be insane.

Trump sure is set on making himself look guilty in almost everything he says. Ive been listening to CBC news over the last week in the boat and our neighbors to the North must be totally flumoxed at how their nutty cousins to the South are sounding.
Blickers
 
  5  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 08:44 am
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
Quote:
It's horrible that liberal phony outrage was able to cost someone their job.
Totally agree. Because what's really wrong with this country is all this stupid respect for people who insist on carrying on despite a cancer diagnosis.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 09:47 am
@MontereyJack,
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And a whole lot of evidence

Please tell us about that evidence. Start by telling us what and where it is.
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coldjoint
 
  -4  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 09:53 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
I'd love to see Trump in an orange apparel.

What has Trump done to destroy France they have not already done to themselves?
Olivier5
 
  3  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 09:59 am
@coldjoint,
Trump hasn't done anything against France that I can think of. I would like to see him in an orange apparel purely for the aestetic effect.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 10:02 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
I would like to see him in an orange apparel purely for the aestetic effect.

Who knows, orange could be the color of Macron's prayer rug.
Olivier5
 
  3  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 10:08 am
@coldjoint,
It wouldn't be diplomatic to use what looks like another president's toupee as a rug.
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 10:15 am
@Olivier5,
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It wouldn't be diplomatic

Diplomacy is now on Trumps terms, not Macrons.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 10:32 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Who knows, orange could be the color of Macron's prayer rug.
I suppose, you're referring to the Tapisserie de Saint Firmin in the Cathédrale Notre-Dame d'Amiens.
It's not really orange, though.
https://i.imgur.com/naoUVbzl.jpg

(Macron is a Roman Catholic, but who knows who cares?, his religion is not a subject in France or elsewhere.)
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 11:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
I suppose, you're referring

No, just a prayer rug, they all over the place, even on the streets. Again, trivial pursuit is a wonderful hobby.
glitterbag
 
  5  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 11:04 am
@Blickers,

I reprinted Blickers post and added additional thoughts at the end.

Blickers wrote:

Quote revellette:
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Re: coldjoint (Post 6655598)
However, that is not what Trump was tweeting about and nor what they piece was fact checking. It is the accelerated rate of the separations as a result of the zero tolerance policy put in place in April.


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According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, more than 650 children were separated from the parents at the border during a two-week period in May.


FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?
May 29, 20184:02 PM ET
BRIAN NAYLOR


Over Memorial Day weekend, President Trump tweeted that people should "put pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there parents once they cross the Border into the U.S."
https://i.imgur.com/zhoriHS.jpg
The president implied that children were being separated from their parents at the border because of a law enacted by Democrats.

Actually, the policy in question was enacted by his own administration.

On May 7, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said in a speech that "If you're smuggling a child, then we're going to prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you, probably, as required by law. If you don't want your child separated, then don't bring them across the border illegally. It's not our fault that somebody does that."

Sessions announced the policy in Scottsdale, Ariz.

Under U.S. law, entering the country illegally is a crime. The Trump administration has decreed that such attempts will be prosecuted, meaning the adults are detained, and any children who accompany them are separated.

White House chief of staff John Kelly told NPR's John Burnett earlier this month that "the children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever. But the big point is they elected to come illegally into the United States and this is a technique that no one hopes will be used extensively or for very long. "

Advocates note that many families attempting to enter the U.S. are seeking asylum from gangs and criminal activities in their home countries, and as such are not breaking the law. The U.S. is obligated to accept asylum-seekers under U.S. and international law if they can show a "credible fear" of persecution or torture.

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/29/615211215/fact-check-are-democrats-responsible-for-dhs-separating-children-from-their-pare




Many working parents find it difficult to find suitable/responsible daycare providers.........So who is taking care of the children confiscated at the border?????

Currently a non-profit 'Southwest Key Programs' (SKP) in Brownsville Texas has the contract to handle the federal Government's 'unaccompanied minors program'. So far for 2018 $310,824,288.00 has been allotted to pay SKP to care for these children. The CEO, Dr. Juan Sanchez was paid $770, 860, cha ching.

So when will the taxpayers get a glimpse of how well these children are cared for and protected?? I wonder how long the American people will be content thinking it's the parents fault they have been confiscated and warehoused in abandoned building? What kind of price will these children pay for the actions of their parents? Will the Department of Justice make sure these children are shielded from abuse, neglect, hunger and human trafficking?
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 11:33 am
@glitterbag,
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.So who is taking care of the children confiscated at the border?????

Who is forcing them to come? The one's with parents knew it was coming. This is what is called a deterrent.

Beggars can't be choosers. Invite them to your house.
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Wed 6 Jun, 2018 11:36 am
@coldjoint,
It's two to tango.
 

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