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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
revelette1
 
  7  
Sat 19 May, 2018 07:48 am
Trump’s plan to cut Planned Parenthood funding will do a lot more than target abortion

It beats me how these die hard anti-abortionist can claim to be fighting for life. Low income women are being screwed by this administration in every way. They can't have abortions (even though it is legal), they can't have contraceptives, once the kids get here, they will have more trouble feeding them and taking care of their needs with Trump doing all he can to cut all government assistance. As a result we are going to have lot more pregnancies with people unable to feed their children. That is not protecting life; that is destroying life.
Lash
 
  -3  
Sat 19 May, 2018 09:37 am
Teflon Trump was preceded by Slick Willie. Trump’s rising popularity despite a cacophony of allegations of wrongdoing is being explained by some with the normalization of political corruption a la Clinton.

Thanks, Bill and Hill!

https://amp.businessinsider.com/bill-hillary-clinton-normalized-trump-2018-5?__twitter_impression=true

Excerpt:

As the Trump administration corruption scandals mount and yet President Donald Trump's poll numbers continue to tick upward, Democrats ask: Why don't voters care? Doesn't corruption matter?

Here's one reason the Trump corruption scandals aren't connecting as much as they should: Before Democrats spent the past 18 months telling everyone this is not normal, they spent years reassuring voters that this was normal.

Well, not precisely this. But the general this: politicians having extensive financial conflicts of interest.

Democrats told voters that taking high-dollar speaking fees right before you run for president from the industries you might regulate should you become president was just something everybody does. They said it was unsophisticated to worry if entities related to you had been fundraising from countries with foreign-policy interests before the US.

They said nobody would object if a man did these things.

They said you should look past the finances and understand that the Clintons shared your values and had your best interests at heart.

Of course, the Clintons' behavior was never normal. They had the second-deepest set of financial conflicts of interest we've seen in a national political operation in my lifetime - second only to Trumpworld.

Democrats could have picked virtually any other candidate for president and gotten a clean advantage on the corruption issue in the general election. But by defending the Clinton model, Democrats were playing right into Trump's hands, essentially telling voters there would always be a swamp, that everybody does it, that a leader is always going to have financial interests that intertwine with his or her public duties.

Is it any surprise so many voters decided they might as well put their own corrupt guy in charge of the swamp?

The Trump model is the Clinton model on steroids
Years before Trump started taking policy advice from friends at Mar-a-Lago, Hillary Clinton was forwarding freelance intelligence memos about Libya from Clinton Foundation consultant Sidney Blumenthal around the State Department as Blumenthal pursued business interests in Libya with other Clinton associates.

Close associates using the perception of closeness to officials to seek large consulting fees from businesses? How do you think Bill Clinton's former personal aide, Doug Band, got rich enough to buy David Rockefeller's $20 million mansion?

Getting in private business at the same time you serve as a top official adviser in government? Huma Abedin was doing it years before Jared Kushner.

You can even compare the Clinton and Trump swamps live in action in Prague this month, where Steve Bannon will debate longtime Clinton confidant (and brownnoser) Lanny Davis at an event sponsored by the Czech defense contractor for which Davis lobbies.

My point is not that what Bill and Hillary Clinton's associates did is as bad as what Trump and his associates have done. It's not as bad. Trumpworld has taken graft and influence peddling to a new, vulgar level. And my sense is Trump's associates have been significantly more sloppy about legal compliance than Clintonworld ever was.

But the fundamental ethical concern is the same: That a leader has marinated himself or herself in financial conflicts of interest, making it unclear where the public interest ends and private interest begins.

Democrats were defending this before they were resisting it.
Blickers
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 10:49 am
@Lash,
I don't recall ONE member of the Clinton Administration meeting in secret with Kremlin officials or Kremlin-connected oligarchs while lying about it to the FBI or the Senate confirmation committee. Yet national security advisor Mike Flynn communicated to the Russians and lied about it to the FBI. Carter Page was hanging around with a Russian spy ring which got busted. He was cleared, but once he joined the Trump Administration he kept making trips to Russia that he never officially revealed.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions told the Senate confirmation committee that he never met with Russian officials alone. Then a few weeks later it was discovered by the press that he had. Then a few weeks after that it was discovered by the press that he done so a second time. The meeting occurred at the Republican National Convention where Russian ambassador Sergei Kisylak was. Tell me, WHAT was Sergei Kisylak doing at the Republican National Convention? Until Trump, I never heard of a presidential candidate dragging a Kremlin official around like that before.

Then of course, there is Paul Manafort who has spent two decades working for the Kremlin, Kremlin international operations or Kremlin controlled oligarchs. Trump didn't even pay him for his role as campaign manager-the Russians were paying him during that time. When it comes to the point that the Russkies are sending the man over to run your campaign, and he's being paid not by you but by them, you really are an agent of the Kremlin. And of course, Trump is just that. For the first time in American history, the President of the United States was not working for the people in this country, he was working for a foreign power. That's momentous.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 12:34 pm
@Blickers,
The Trump Tower meeting and follow-ups are the first indication that countries beyond Russia may have offered help to the Trump campaign.

Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election
coldjoint
 
  -4  
Sat 19 May, 2018 01:19 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
that countries beyond Russia may have offered help to the Trump campaign.

No one cares. The NYT is dead, they just need to lay down.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 02:13 pm
Quote:
The Inspector General's Report Will Expose the MSM as Treasonous

Quote:
CNN, NBC, the Washington Post and The New York Times -- misinforming the public as it hasn't since the days of their great Stalin-excuser Walter Duranty (still pictured on their Pulitzer wall of honor) -- are particularly egregious in this regard. But there are many others.

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/the-inspector-generals-report-will-expose-the-msm-as-treasonous/
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 02:23 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Trump Jr. met Gulf princes' emissary in 2016 who offered campaign help
Quote:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Donald Trump Jr., the U.S. president’s eldest son, met in August 2016 with an envoy representing the crown princes of United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia.

The meeting was first reported by the New York Times on Saturday and confirmed by an attorney representing Trump Jr.

The meeting was a chance for the envoy to offer help to the Trump presidential campaign.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 02:25 pm
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The Invincible Mendacity and Hypocrisy of the Liberal Media

https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2018/05/Navarro-on-Trump.jpeg?resize=600%2C366

This the lady that just bitched up a storm about Trump calling people animals. When are people going to realize this "do what I say, not what I do" is ridiculous and these people are somehow not accountable for what they have said?

Not people anyone should listen to.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/the-invincible-mendacity-and-hypocrisy-of-the-liberal-media.php
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 02:34 pm
Quote:
Analysis: Giuliani Escalates Effort to Erode Legitimacy of Mueller Probe


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The Trump team’s argument can be boiled down to two sentences uttered by Giuliani on Friday morning: He said the Justice Department has “wasted $20 million on an investigation that begins without any evidence and ends without any evidence.” Soon after, he said of the special counsel’s and media’s perception of those involved: “Anyone who defends the president is some kind of scoundrel, and anyone who lies about him is okay.”


Trump is winning. Who will be the first to go to jail?

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/analysis-giuliani-escalates-effort-erode-legitimacy-mueller-probe
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Baldimo
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 02:54 pm
@revelette1,
I guess if people are having a hard time providing for themselves, they shouldn't be having kids. It might be time for them to practice some personal responsibility instead of depending on the good nature of the taxpayer to provide for them.
Blickers
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 03:01 pm
@Baldimo,
Great thinking. You don't want them to have kids they can't afford, so let's cut off funding to the places that provide birth control.
Baldimo
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 03:16 pm
@Blickers,
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Great thinking. You don't want them to have kids they can't afford, so let's cut off funding to the places that provide birth control.

I thought the ACA covered a vast majority of these issues? Birth-control is free, and condoms are cheap, plus people have to have insurance. What's PP got to do with it? Planned Parenthood is a private company, not a govt agency.

This still doesn't excuse personal responsibility and the fact that if you can't afford a kid, don't have one. If you get pregnant in our current day and age, that is a lack of not thinking about the consequences. We are instructing children in such things when they are as young as middle school, there should be no excuse. Don't be dumb and go towards any sort of non-consensual sex, that isn't what I'm talking about and you know it. Don't go to the extreme.
revelette1
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 03:48 pm
@Baldimo,
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I thought the ACA covered a vast majority of these issues? Birth-control is free,


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/6/16234238/trump-obamacare-birth-control

From Think progress:

Quote:
Title X was created under President Richard Nixon in 1969 to fulfill a promise that “no American woman should be denied access to family planning assistance because of her economic condition.”

Now, the Trump administration aims to “creat[e] a health system that favors those with more resources,” said Guttmacher Institute senior policy manager Kinsey Hasstedt. “It’s repugnant.”

The Trump administration’s move is sure to please anti-choice voters and conservative lawmakers ahead of upcoming primaries. As The Hill reporter Jessie Hellmann pointed out on Twitter, some organizations have already started rallying around the issue:

This policy comes as family planning clinics bid for federal dollars. Applications for the Title X family planning program are May 24, and already it’s been a complicated process. The Trump administration was four months late announcing the Title X grant. When officials did, they changed the funding criteria, prioritizing applications from groups with religious backgrounds and those that counsel abstinence.


https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-plan-to-cut-planned-parenthood-funding-will-do-a-lot-more-than-target-abortion-6d29bb3af3dc/
georgeob1
 
  -3  
Sat 19 May, 2018 04:00 pm
@revelette1,
Do you believe that anyone other than employees of the religious organizations that have long-standing moral objections to abortion, and for whom this policy is enacted, will be directly affected by the loss of abortion benefits? Abortion is legal, and women who seek one have a right to do so. That doesn't require the government or others with moral objections to it to pay for it.
roger
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 04:10 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:

Great thinking. You don't want them to have kids they can't afford, so let's cut off funding to the places that provide birth control.

Bingo!
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revelette1
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 05:09 pm
@georgeob1,
The point went over your head. The Trump administration is providing funding towards religious groups who "preach" abstinence instead facilities who provide birth control and/or referral to abortion clinics. Now people can't refer a woman who chooses to have an abortion to a good abortion doctor in those places who serve low income women. I mean, as of right now, it is legal but you guys are trying to make it impossible for low income women to either get abortions or even birth control and other services which serves low income people. And then when you make them have their babies, you guys are cutting off funding to feed, shelter and clothe them. There is life after birth too.

And yes, I do believe while it is the law of land, if you have employees who chose to have abortion or for heavens sake, use contraceptives, then that employer should have to provide insurance for it regardless of their religious beliefs.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 07:46 pm
From Sept. 2017

Quote:
11 times the MSM smeared Levin over Trump camp wiretapping

Quote:
ABC’s Brian Ross called Levin “a conspiracy-loving talk show host.”

The Washington Post claimed Levin was “confounded” or “trying to confound everyone who listens to him.”

Writing for the Post, Chris Cillizza labeled Levin’s claims a “conspiracy theory” and wrote of his evidence: “The proof that all — or any — of these events are tied together by actual facts as opposed to supposition is not offered.”

The New York Daily News declared Levin “the conservative radio host behind Trump’s wiretap conspiracy theory.”

CNN’s Brian Stelter accused Levin of having “cherry-picked news stories that supported his thesis and omitted information that cut against it.”

The New York Times called Levin’s detailed argument a “conspiratorial rant.”

The L.A. Times said Levin advanced his claims against the Obama administration “without evidence” and labeled it a “conspiracy theory.”

The Guardian pointed at Levin as “the talkshow [sic] host behind the baseless Obama wiretap rumor.”

The Daily Beast smeared Levin as “a perpetually angry conservative media star and commentator who too often enjoys indulging in wild claims and grand conspiracy-theorizing.”

The Atlantic referred to the matter as “Levin and Breitbart’s conspiracy theory.”

The Associated Press falsely claimed that Levin “voiced without evidence the idea that Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower.”


It is not a theory any more.
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/11-times-the-msm-smeared-mark-levin-over-trump-wiretapping/

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glitterbag
 
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Sat 19 May, 2018 11:53 pm
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