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Blickers
 
  3  
Fri 18 May, 2018 12:11 am
@Baldimo,
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:
I like how you dodged everything dealing with the Clinton Foundation and how it has gone to ground since she lost the election...

I love how you keep dodging the fact that Trump has filled his campaign and Administration with a pack of Putin-loving turncoats who keep meeting secretly with Kremlin officials and Kremlin-connected oligarchs and lying about it to the FBI and the Senate.
Blickers
 
  5  
Fri 18 May, 2018 12:18 am
So what does everyone think about Trump turning on our ally Qatar in the Middle East-home to a huge American base-and supporting a blockade of that country until they agreed to bail son-in-law Jared The Clearance-less out with big money on his white elephant at 666 Fifth Avenue?
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izzythepush
 
  4  
Fri 18 May, 2018 04:55 am
@Blickers,
Qatar is home to Al Jazeera, a news channel that is surprisingly unfettered for the ME. The Saudi crown prince wants it shut down because it tells the truth about Saudi Arabia, and Trump does what the crown prince says.
revelette1
 
  3  
Fri 18 May, 2018 06:45 am
@izzythepush,
Trump is pretty tied up with Saudis from what I have been reading lately. He is so compromised in so many ways and it appears we will just have to live with it. (We as in the US)
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 18 May, 2018 07:21 am
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The UN human rights chief says Israel used "wholly disproportionate" force against Palestinian border protests which have left over 100 people dead.

Zeid Raad Al Hussein told a meeting in Geneva that Gazans were effectively "caged in a toxic slum" and Gaza's occupation by Israel had to end.

Mr Zeid told the emergency session on Gaza that the "stark contrast in casualties on both sides is... suggestive of a wholly disproportionate response" by Israel.

An Israeli soldier was "reportedly wounded, slightly, by a stone" on Monday, he said, while 43 Palestinians were killed at the site of the protests. Seventeen more Palestinians were killed away from what he called the "hot spots".

He said there had been "little evidence of any [Israeli] attempt to minimise casualties". Israel's actions might, he said, "constitute 'wilful killings' - a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention", an international law designed to protect civilians under occupation.

Mr Zeid said he supported a call for an "international, independent and impartial" investigation into the violence in Gaza, adding that "those responsible for violations must in the end be held accountable".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-44167900
revelette1
 
  4  
Fri 18 May, 2018 07:51 am
@izzythepush,
Sadly it is obvious the way any response to the Human Rights Chief assessment will go.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 18 May, 2018 07:54 am
@izzythepush,
Rudy Giuliani makes a big, new concession: A president can commit obstruction of justice
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Rudy Giuliani just made a big two-word concession: “He can.”

That's what Giuliani said Friday morning when asked by CNN's Chris Cuomo about whether a president can obstruct justice. And it contradicts the case that President Trump's now-former lawyer John Dowd had made.

Dowd told Axios in December: “The president cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case.” And there is actually some legitimate debate on that point.

But apparently Giuliani disagrees. Trump's own lawyer said Friday that his client is not immune from charges of obstructing justice — which is clearly the most troubling part of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's investigation for Trump personally. While Trump hasn't been directly linked to potential collusion with Russia, he has taken many actions as president that have caught Mueller's attention and could feasibly be seen as trying to influence the course of the investigation. So whether he can technically obstruct justice at all is a key point, and it's one Giuliani just conceded.

Here's the exchange:
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GIULIANI: The president has complete discretion to fire anybody he wants.

CUOMO: What about corrupt intent?

GIULIANI: Doesn't apply.

CUOMO: Why not?

GIULIANI: There's no evidence of that.

CUOMO: You don't think a president can obstruct justice?

GIULIANI: He can. But I think in the case of firing a subordinate who's going to be replaced by somebody else on an acting basis immediately —

CUOMO: But it's why you fired them. Corrupt intent. It's part of the legal analysis.

GIULIANI: It doesn't matter if in fact it can't result in anything. The investigation continued. The investigation expanded.


It's not clear that exempting Trump from any potential obstruction charges by virtue of his position has been a constant part of the Trump team's legal strategy. While Dowd said Trump was immune from committing such a crime in December, it hasn't been a public fixture of the team's defense. It's also important to note that Giuliani didn't appear to think firing people — like FBI Director James B. Comey — would constitute obstruction.

But it does run counter to the increasingly confrontational approach the Trump legal team is taking. And it concedes a legal debate of some legitimacy that could impact the ultimate result here. There are many other potential elements of the obstruction investigation besides firing Comey, and Giuliani has conceded one of them could feasibly be labeled “obstruction of justice.”

Of course, this only comes into play legally if Mueller were to actually attempt to charge Trump with a crime, which seems unlikely. But it could also be a factor if Congress has to decide, based upon Mueller's evidence, whether Trump committed an offense worthy of impeachment and removal from office. That's a way down the road, but Giuliani just acknowledged that something Trump did to influence the Russia investigation could technically be obstruction of justice.
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revelette1
 
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Fri 18 May, 2018 08:14 am
The following is a segment from CNN and it contains several stories. Two very interesting ones. One talking about "spy" in the Trump campaign and the other talking with Giuliani and Chris Cuomo where Giuliani became unhinged when his past words debunked his words now about the President could be subpoenaed. (A lot of other stuff about the Royal Wedding Rolling Eyes no offense)

oralloy
 
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Fri 18 May, 2018 08:20 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
talking with Giuliani and Chris Cuomo where Giuliani became unhinged when his past words debunked his words now about the President could be subpoenaed.

The President can be subpoenaed. He has the right to take the Fifth Amendment unless he receives immunity from prosecution.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Fri 18 May, 2018 10:13 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
He has the right to take the Fifth Amendment



"The mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Fri 18 May, 2018 10:20 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
taking the Fifth Amendment?"

If they ever prosecute Killary, what happens when she takes the Fifth? Would people react the same? Of course they wouldn't. Next.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Fri 18 May, 2018 10:25 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Next.
So because Trump is innocent, he wouldn't take the Fifth Amendment - since he isn't part of the mob who takes the Fifth.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 18 May, 2018 10:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
So because Trump is innocent,

He is until proven guilty. Do you expect him, or anyone else, to help prove their guilt? People do not do that. He is clearly being framed.

Are you saying Lois Lerner was mobbed up? She took the fifth.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 18 May, 2018 11:22 am
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Clinton IT staffer pleads 5th 125 consecutive times

Wow!! Clinton must be mobbed up.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/politics/bryan-pagliano-judicial-watch-deposition/index.html
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Fri 18 May, 2018 11:24 am
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Nine Obama Administration Officials Who Pled the Fifth to Congress

Oh, oh Obama is mobbed up too. Shocked
https://ntknetwork.com/flashback-nine-obama-administration-officials-who-pled-the-fifth-to-congress/
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Fri 18 May, 2018 11:42 am
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday issued a proposal that would effectively stop giving government funds that subsidize birth control for low-income women to Planned Parenthood and other clinics that provide abortions.
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The funding cannot be used for abortions, but abortion opponents have long complained that the money subsidizes Planned Parenthood itself.
reuters
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