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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
layman
 
  2  
Sat 3 Dec, 2016 11:41 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

blatham wrote:

Don't play along. There's a LOT to pay attention to now in politics and in media. Focus on the real stuff, not the noise.


I think this means "Hey what's happening, now they're insulting ME !!??"

...It's a little pathetic.

What happened to the former patronizing instruction of the poorly indoctrinated?


I tend to agree, George. This "Come now, let us reason together" facade falls apart pretty quickly when you see nothing behind it except one-sided left-wing propaganda. Guys like Blathy want a complacent audience that is susceptible to their indoctrination and recruitment, and they detest any resistance to it.
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blatham
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 11:55 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
I think this means "Hey what's happening, now they're insulting ME !!??"

Nope, don't care about that. My protest was the use of personal insults directed towards posters. That is a violation of site rules and where it becomes common, the whole enterprise suffers.
Quote:
Then there's the additional encouragement to silencing opposing voices by using the "ignore" feature

To ignore a voice is not to suppress it. If you do not turn to, say, the WP or the NYT or TPM but instead ignore them, you are not suppressing them.

Quote:
and complaining to the moderators

This is the correct thing to do given site rule violations. The moderators can adjudicate whether any corrective action is warranted or not
ehBeth
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 12:01 pm
@blatham,
Interesting.

I've got another window open right now where I'm trying to post something similarish on another thread.

I guess I'm going to just have to hit the post button.

__

edit: hit the button

It likely won't mean anything but it felt good (and how I feel matters - right? Laughing )
layman
 
  1  
Sat 3 Dec, 2016 12:02 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

[Complaining to the moderators] is the correct thing to do given site rule violations.


The primal instinct of a cheese-eater is always to run to Mama for help and protection.

Round these here parts where I'm from, we don't cotton to no dime-droppers.
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giujohn
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 12:04 pm
@georgeob1,
As usual you have drilled down with laser precision to the salient point... Very pathetic.
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McGentrix
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 12:26 pm
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

I heard this on Sean Hannity show yesterday when he had Ann Coulter on the show with him. This is the equivalent of the newspaper Truman held up with the headline Dewey defeats Truman. It was a delight to see those smug smirks wiped off all those Hollywood and MSM faces. What a wonderful Christmas present.


Agreed.
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McGentrix
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 12:31 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:




Loved it. I really hope some of them look back at the mistakes they've made and will not repeat them in the future.
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Lola
 
  2  
Sat 3 Dec, 2016 12:36 pm
@blatham,
To be as clear as possible, it is true that facts are theories, but these theories have been tested many times and an exception has not yet been found. If you want to have confidence in your ideas, try to prove them wrong. Because it's important to clarify that you're not fooling anyone, and you are the easiest person to fool. (paraphrase of Richard Feynman)

So Georgeob, this is the difference between a fact and a theory.

blatham
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 12:47 pm
@ehBeth,
All we can do is try to keep things running without the vituperation and malice. And, of course, resist the temptations ourselves.
blatham
 
  2  
Sat 3 Dec, 2016 12:50 pm
Quote:
Last night in Cincinnati, Ohio, Donald Trump took what can best be described as a victory lap. While his speech began with talk of “unity” and compassion, it quickly devolved into attacks on the media, immigrants, and anyone who didn’t vote for him.

When the speech was over with, a panel on CNN discussed what they had just seen, David Gergen, who served as an advisor to Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, said he had been disheartened by what Trump’s remarks, commenting:

“I think if there was any doubt that we’re putting an end to one chapter in American history and moving to a new one, he dispelled that tonight. This is goodbye to American leadership in the world. Goodbye to globalization. He’s bringing America home. He’s going to lead a nativist, nationalistic, populist movement and if you want to join up with him fine. If you don’t, forget it.”

Gergen added that it’s now clear the President-elect will push his agenda, “and he’s going to do it in his pugilistic, narcissistic way.” He then added:

“He’s in charge. And he has a lot of support in the Congress. That kind of speech will fire up his base, and it’s going to leave a lot of other people—”

His voice trailing off, Gergen then said what a lot of us have been thinking and feelings ever since Trump began his run for the White House last year:

“I knew I didn’t like the son of a bitch.”
What the hell would THAT GUY know about it?
blatham
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 12:55 pm
@Lola,
Quote:
To be as clear as possible, it is true that facts are theories,

Not with you on that one, babe. The earth revolves around the sun.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 01:14 pm
@Lola,
All we need to do is go by the definition of science on topics of theory.
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layman
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 01:14 pm
@blatham,
Well, Blathy, I learned something new at that link you posted. Turns out, they have some very astute analysts there with thoughtful insights. For example:

Quote:
How could anyone like Donald Trump? The man is a blowhard, a con man, a pathological liar, a neo-fascist, and an all around asshole. He is a heartless piece of human excrement who doesn’t give a damn about anyone but himself.


Great question! Great answer!

Nothing "personal," of course, Trump. You can't help that your Mama plopped out a piece of **** instead of a human being.
layman
 
  1  
Sat 3 Dec, 2016 01:15 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

All we can do is try to keep things running without the vituperation and malice. And, of course, resist the temptations ourselves.


Or let your links do it, as a cheese-eaters would, eh?
georgeob1
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 01:17 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
One possibility is that Stein

But I'm not asking about Stein's motivations/strategy. I am posing a question regarding why GOP groups are moving as they are in response.


Unforunately you don't have the right to impose arbitrary restrictions on the conversation or the interpretsations others have on what are the significant issues relkative to tyopics you identify. You apperar to be a closet authoritarian. That's a bit repugnant.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 01:17 pm
@layman,
I'm making a hard copy of this one. It is succinct and to the point although it missed "racial bigot."
Quote:


Quote:
How could anyone like Donald Trump? The man is a blowhard, a con man, a pathological liar, a neo-fascist, and an all around asshole. He is a heartless piece of human excrement who doesn’t give a damn about anyone but himself.
georgeob1
 
  0  
Sat 3 Dec, 2016 01:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
A truly impressive bit of factual, informative, dispassionate illuminating and reasoned insight. Will you frame it and hang it on your wall?
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sat 3 Dec, 2016 01:30 pm
@georgeob1,
It was rhetorical, George. Wink
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layman
 
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Sat 3 Dec, 2016 01:31 pm
@georgeob1,
From a site that calls itself "Liberal America."

At one time the word "liberal" had somewhat different meaning than it does now.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 3 Dec, 2016 01:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
By Andrew Bradford, December 2, 2016
Quote:
Last night in Cincinnati, Ohio, Donald Trump took what can best be described as a victory lap. While his speech began with talk of “unity” and compassion, it quickly devolved into attacks on the media, immigrants, and anyone who didn’t vote for him.

When the speech was over with, a panel on CNN discussed what they had just seen, David Gergen, who served as an advisor to Presidents Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, and Bill Clinton, said he had been disheartened by what Trump’s remarks, commenting:
“I think if there was any doubt that we’re putting an end to one chapter in American history and moving to a new one, he dispelled that tonight. This is goodbye to American leadership in the world. Goodbye to globalization. He’s bringing America home. He’s going to lead a nativist, nationalistic, populist movement and if you want to join up with him fine. If you don’t, forget it.”
Gergen added that it’s now clear the President-elect will push his agenda, “and he’s going to do it in his pugilistic, narcissistic way.” He then added:
“He’s in charge. And he has a lot of support in the Congress. That kind of speech will fire up his base, and it’s going to leave a lot of other people—”
His voice trailing off, Gergen then said what a lot of us have been thinking and feelings ever since Trump began his run for the White House last year:
“I knew I didn’t like the son of a bitch.”
How could anyone like Donald Trump? The man is a blowhard, a con man, a pathological liar, a neo-fascist, and an all around asshole. He is a heartless piece of human excrement who doesn’t give a damn about anyone but himself.
And for David Gergen, I have this: Thank you so much for what you said. You are truly an American hero, and we need more statesmen like you in this country.



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