@Baldimo,
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:But insofar as everything that can be checked out supports what Stormy Daniels said, and everything that can be checked out also shows that Trump not only lies but has been changing his lies almost daily for several weeks
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:There is an NDA, what good does an NDA do if he admits to anything....
So you conservatives think that getting a Non Disclosure Agreement signed empowers the president to lie to the American people without consequences? "My fellow Americans, I would have loved to tell you the truth about what happened with Stormy and I, but if I did that then I would have wasted all that money on a Non Disclosure Agreement that I had Cohen set up in secret. I'm sure you didn't send me to the White House to act like a spendthrift. That's why I got the Russian oligarch to pay Cohen back for the money he fronted me to pay her, saved me $130,000. And I pledge to the American people right now, this is only one of the cost efficiencies we plan to bring to the workings of the US government. Trust me, there will be plenty more."
Quote Blickers:
Quote:This is the same guy who, when running for president, talked about breaking up NATO, (Putin's fondest wish),
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:NATO should be paying their fair share, why should we be footing the bill for the EU who appears to be doing just fine economically.
If there is a problem with Europeans paying up, any real leader would take that up behind closed doors, not in front of a hostile world. NATO was formed right after WWII to prevent Russia from taking over Western Europe like it had just taken over Eastern Europe.
By presenting a united front, NATO prevented that from happening for forty years. Then Russia collapsed economically in 1991 and couldn't afford to pay its own army, so the captive Iron Curtain countries could get away from Russian dominance and begin moving ahead. But they knew they were still in danger from Russia coming to take them back, so they applied to NATO. Russia dared not attack an Eastern European country that was a NATO member.
But then Trump started talking about how our allies needed to pay more. And maybe we should leave NATO, (music to Putin's ears). And how from now on we should forget about commitments to defend freedom and instead deal with Russia on the basis of mutual self-interest. Presumably, that means if Russia wants to take over Eastern Europe again, they can have it as long as we get our cut. Trump has done a great job trying to rend apart the unity that NATO has had for seventy years and which has defended freedom so well, in order to curry favor with Putin. This is a dangerous situation.
Quote Baldimo:
Quote:You guys felt this same way about Reagan when he was taking down the USSR. Hated your own President in favor of a Communist regime.
No, we did not agree with Reagan's trickle down domestic policies, but I know of no liberal who spoke out in defense of the Communist regime that was falling down. We were there cheering the Soviet Union's demise. This is as opposed to Trump, who constantly seeks to reward Russia for it's takeover of Ukrainian Crimea and it's invasion of Eastern Ukraine proper by getting rid of the sanctions that got put in under Obama. And Trump's hiring of a campaign manager, Manafort, who he didn't even pay to run his campaign-Trump let the Russians pay Manafort. And Trump hired a national security advisor, Flynn, who was heard reassuring the Russian ambassador that Trump will have Obama's sanctions against Russia removed. And Trump hired another national security advisor, Carter Page, who was unknowingly hanging around with a Russian spy ring until its members got busted. This is the guy Trump had advising him on how to keep the country secure. And of course, Trump installed Jeff Sessions as Attorney General, who promptly lied to the Senate confirmation committee about meeting the Russian ambassador secretly. And then later had it discovered he met the ambassador again. Clearly, Trump was the Manchurian Candidate and has stocked his Administration with people who will do Putin's bidding. What a disgrace.