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Lash
 
  -4  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 08:05 am
@hightor,
But do you have Main Street in mind? If you do, why are you afraid to say so?

Bezos is amassing too much power.
maporsche
 
  3  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 08:13 am
@Lash,
What's the point in talking about Amazon's power here (I haven't seen anyone defending Amazon)? Start another thread, it may be interesting. If Amazon doesn't pay enough in taxes, maybe we shouldn't have just passed a tax bill giving them millions (billions?) in tax cuts.


Is it an opportunity to bash a democratic donor?
Is it an opportunity to just defend Trump from critics?


What page number in Trump's playbook are you on, the rest of us may like to follow along.
revelette1
 
  4  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 08:18 am
Read the DOJ memo authorizing Mueller to investigate potential Manafort collusion

Quote:
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told special counsel Robert Mueller in a classified August 2, 2017, memo that he should investigate allegations that President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort was "colluding with Russian government officials" to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.

Mueller was also empowered by Rosenstein to investigate Manafort's payments from Ukrainian politicians, a cornerstone of the Trump adviser's decades-long lobbying career that has resulted in several financial criminal charges so far.


What Manafort (Trump) Realize About the Rosenstein Memo (RollingStone)
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maporsche
 
  2  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 08:53 am
@maporsche,
I have a hard time figuring out if you are playing us all for fools or if you are just being played a fool yourself and rather than thinking for yourself you're simply following the subtle (sometimes not so subtle) instructions being given by Trump, republicans, and the right.

I mean, if there's ever been evidence that marketing and targeted messaging can work in America, this is a textbook example.
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:02 am
@revelette1,
It is dismaying. The US was certainly in turmoil during the civil rights/MLK era and during Viet Nam and Watergate (cities under curfew where those out after curfew in black neighborhoods could be shot on sight, National Guard with bayonets, Kent State, nattering nabobs of negativity). And then, we didn't have such ready access to nutty ideas and conspiracy theories floating about in the manner we have now so our perceptions of then and now can be a bit warped.

But the US has never had a period like this one where so many norms of government have been tossed aside.

Or where the leader of the country flagrantly lied with ease every day (often multiple times per day) and where almost every politician of his party refrained from even the mildest criticism of such behavior.

Or where the news media was explicitly described by the leader and most members of his party as a key civic enemy.

Or where the senior policing and intelligence agencies were accused, by the leader and many members of his party as running a covert campaign to bring down that leader.

Or where expertise and knowledge and facts were ignored, denied, and castigated by the leader and many/most of his party.

Or where the man in the WH was using his office to make money for his companies each and every day.

Or where the President of the US was defending a foreign nation - Russia, no less - who had been running an extensive covert disinformation program in America geared to causing internal turmoil AND geared to putting the candidate now defending Russia into the White House.
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Lash
 
  -3  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:07 am
@maporsche,
An oligarch is amassing newspapers, underpaying workers, and finding loopholes to use the USPS to make deliveries for him.

It’s wrong. Period.

I’ll say so. Period.
Lash
 
  -3  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:08 am
@maporsche,
You should get out more. Progressives are on the same page. You’re just sniffing under the corrupt establishment D and R table for old scraps.
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maporsche
 
  5  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:13 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
and finding loopholes to use the USPS to make deliveries for him.


Finding loopholes? What loopholes.

The post office parcel delivery service is MAKING money and profit in the division is up 12% year over year.


I swear, it's like you're quoting from a right-wing blogger.
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maporsche
 
  5  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:21 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

An oligarch is amassing newspapers


Newspapers? With an "s"?

I'm sure your post about Sinclair Media or any of the other rich people who own papers is coming soon. I mean, it's not like your being led around by a leash or anything...parroting Trumps playbook.
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blatham
 
  3  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:22 am
Nobody has been tougher on the corruption of the RNC than Lash. And everyone knows it.

Nobody has been tougher on what Republican spokespersons and politicos say and do than Lash. And everyone knows it.

Nobody has been tougher on the right wing media than Lash. And everyone knows it.

Nobody has been tougher on those who use false equivalences to excuse destructive behaviors of the right than Lash. And everyone knows this as clearly as they know anything at all.
maporsche
 
  5  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:26 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

underpaying workers


There have indeed been many reports about working conditions in amazon warehouses. Any incidences of violations should be prosecuted and the company should be fined and forced to pay if it's breaking the law.

Ideally, I'd love to see them pay all their warehouse workers at least $15/hr, as they can obviously afford to.

That being said, they are FAR from the only company who pays their workers less than I'd like to see.

I'm sure you're criticism of Walmart, fast food chains, and grocery store conglomerates is forthcoming. After all, you're not being led around by anyone....are you?
maporsche
 
  5  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:28 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Nobody has been tougher on the corruption of the RNC than Lash. And everyone knows it.

Nobody has been tougher on what Republican spokespersons and politicos say and do than Lash. And everyone knows it.

Nobody has been tougher on the right wing media than Lash. And everyone knows it.

Nobody has been tougher on those who use false equivalences to excuse destructive behaviors of the right than Lash. And everyone knows this as clearly as they know anything at all.


Absolutely true!!!

She's also well known for withholding "final applause" which is the most devastating thing one can do.
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:32 am
@maporsche,
Suddenly forwarding Trump and right wing media attacks on Amazon is a dead giveaway. Particularly, as you noted, while ignoring Sinclair. And Fox.
Brand X
 
  1  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:43 am
Board's of other corporations are likely taking notes and are not going to tolerate the CEO of their company going off and buying a piece of media that throws darts at a politician everyday.

Trump has a lot of real estate buddies that take a hit every time Amazon puts one of their tenants out of business. That's an underlying aspect of Trump's attack on Amazon.

Bezos made a bed he now has to lie in, but he is about to start his own delivery company to compete with UPS, USPS and FedEx, then USPS will miss that business.

If this USPS Trump BS keeps on and USPS goes up on their shipping costs, the others in that arena will follow, which will be bad for all businesses.

maporsche
 
  2  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 09:43 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Suddenly forwarding Trump and right wing media attacks on Amazon is a dead giveaway. Particularly, as you noted, while ignoring Sinclair. And Fox.


The thing is, there are obviously things to talk about on this topic and of course all of us (either side of the political isle) will find problems with any of these topics.

Trump and Lash are NOT the people to lead such a discussion though. Neither have any credibility or have demonstrated the capacity for deep thought or a willingness to have an honest discussion.
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ehBeth
 
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Wed 4 Apr, 2018 10:01 am
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:
Board's of other corporations are likely taking notes and are not going to tolerate the CEO of their company going off and buying a piece of media that throws darts at a politician everyday.


Sinclair? Fox?

it's the only way to do business as #45 has pointed out several times

he knows knocking politicians is a ratings winner

he just wasn't expecting to be that politician

___

then again, as long as they spell his name right, his brand is getting coverage and that's what his family is about
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hightor
 
  4  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 10:43 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Large corporations have reaped the rewards of having Donald Trump in the White House. The passage of a $1.5 trillion tax bill whose largest component was a corporate tax cut; the appointment of a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau acting director, Mick Mulvaney, who is determined to pull back on consumer financial protections; the gutting of large automakers’ obligations to restrict pollutants in their emissions—these and other policy and personnel decisions have been made for the benefit of corporate interests. But Trump’s attacks this week on Amazon and its C.E.O., Jeff Bezos, are a reminder that the President’s seemingly boundless corporate favoritism is actually favoritism of a much more narrow and fickle kind.

Donald Trump’s Bad-Faith Attacks on Amazon
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Lash
 
  -3  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 10:52 am
@blatham,
Once again, you and legions of Trump-haters have that covered. Wallpapered.

The log in your eye prevents you from seeing similar behavior in the Ds.

Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 10:53 am
@maporsche,
You must’ve missed my posts about WalMart.

You only see what you want to see—like your little buddy club here.
Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 4 Apr, 2018 11:04 am
SEATTLE — On Monday mornings, fresh recruits line up for an orientation intended to catapult them into Amazon’s singular way of working.

They are told to forget the “poor habits” they learned at previous jobs, one employee recalled. When they “hit the wall” from the unrelenting pace, there is only one solution: “Climb the wall,” others reported. To be the best Amazonians they can be, they should be guided by the leadership principles, 14 rules inscribed on handy laminated cards. When quizzed days later, those with perfect scores earn a virtual award proclaiming, “I’m Peculiar” — the company’s proud phrase for overturning workplace conventions.

At Amazon, workers are encouraged to tear apart one another’s ideas in meetings, toil long and late (emails arrive past midnight, followed by text messages asking why they were not answered), and held to standards that the company boasts are “unreasonably high.” The internal phone directory instructs colleagues on how to send secret feedback to one another’s bosses. Employees say it is frequently used to sabotage others. (The tool offers sample texts, including this: “I felt concerned about his inflexibility and openly complaining about minor tasks.”)

Many of the newcomers filing in on Mondays may not be there in a few years. The company’s winners dream up innovations that they roll out to a quarter-billion customers and accrue small fortunes in soaring stock. Losers leave or are fired in annual cullings of the staff — “purposeful Darwinism,” one former Amazon human resources director said. Some workers who suffered from cancer, miscarriages and other personal crises said they had been evaluated unfairly or edged out rather than given time to recover.

——————
I’m sure if you support Wall Street and the Clinton Foundation, you probably support this too.

I don’t.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/technology/inside-amazon-wrestling-big-ideas-in-a-bruising-workplace.html


 

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