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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 09:39 am
@ehBeth,
White House praises ‘courageous’ youths marching against gun violence
Quote:
“We applaud the many courageous young Americans exercising their First Amendment rights today,” White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters said in the statement, in which she added that “keeping our children safe is a top priority of the President’s.”
[...]
The White House’s statement was issued as Trump spent time at Trump International Golf Club here, located about 35 miles from Parkland.
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 09:45 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Here is what the WH said.
Quote:
“We applaud the many courageous young Americans exercising their First Amendment rights today,”

and
Quote:
“keeping our children safe is a top priority of the President’s.”


Not one thing about why they were marching, or guns. The title is misinformation, a lie.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/03/24/white-house-praises-courageous-youths-marching-against-gun-violence/?utm_term=.21df45f83bfc
ehBeth
 
  2  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 09:53 am
@Walter Hinteler,
this photo was from about 2 hours ago as the marchers started gathering in DC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZD-EUcW0AAZhPF.jpg

(waves at friends, their kids and relatives who are there)

coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 09:56 am
In fact, just listening to Hogg should show everyone what progressive indoctrination has done. A kid that age should not be that vile and hate filled and that cynical. He should be considering a career. Full time crybaby and liar is not a career.

The Left is not doing these kids any favors unless teaching intolerance is a plus somehow.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:06 am
@ehBeth,
https://i.imgur.com/wIxs6Obl.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/eMmIE76l.jpg
farmerman
 
  4  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:07 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Im sure that Trump, always a fan of promoting chaos and keeping his base enflamed, will find some way of reversing whatever his spokespeople say.

Hes such a fool.
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:13 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Ironic, when one of the sponsors is Planned Parenthood.
Quote:
Upcoming “March for Our Lives” Being Organized by Planned Parenthood, Everytown, and Other Leftist Orgs


Quote:
Why an organization dedicated to ending the life of children is putting up the front that they care about violence towards children is anyone’s guess.

Planned Parenthood has also been in contact with anti-gun advocate Giffords, who is working with Everytown and Moms Demand Action, two gun control organizations bent on promoting anti-gun hysterics rather than education and safety. According to Buzzfeed, these three organizations are planning the march on Washington.

Acting as their political liaison is Democratic US Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz:


There is a winner, Schultz. They could not find anyone with more credibility?
https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/02/28/upcoming-march-lives-organized-planned-parenthood-everytown-leftist-orgs/
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:18 am
Quote:
If the March for Our Lives was looking to unite people who are concerned about gun violence in schools, they just lost any chance for a coming together thanks to the inclusion of these activist groups.

But let’s face facts. This was never about concerned kids standing up for safety in their schools. As I mentioned before, these kids were simply a useful shield in the left’s narrative for gun control. If this was really about student’s concerns, they would also promote the message of someone like Kyle Kashuv, who has accurately identified the problem instead of attacking Republicans and Republican-friendly organizations.

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/02/28/upcoming-march-lives-organized-planned-parenthood-everytown-leftist-orgs/
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:20 am
@Olivier5,
But I didn't compare him to Dreyfus, I commented that Dreyfus would have likely disputed your nieve claim.
hightor
 
  5  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:22 am
@coldjoint,
"White House praises ‘courageous’ youths marching against gun violence"

Quote:
Not one thing about why they were marching, or guns. The title is misinformation, a lie.

No, it's neither a "lie" nor "misinformation". Everyone knows the purpose of the march is to address the problem of gun violence. Noting that the demonstration is also an example of free speech does not obviate or contradict the stated purpose of the demonstration.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:28 am
@hightor,
Quote:
No, it's neither a "lie" nor "misinformation".


It sure is, the WH said nothing about guns. If it is in that article, please quote it.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:30 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Anti-anti-communism

Quote:
(...)

Thoughtful observers should suspect any historical narrative that paints the world in black and white. In Thinking, Fast and Slow (2011), the Nobel-prize-winning psychologist Daniel Kahneman warns of predictable cognitive flaws that inhibit our ability to think rationally, including something called ‘the halo effect’:

The halo effect helps keep explanatory narratives simple and coherent by exaggerating the consistency of evaluations: good people do only good things and bad people are all bad … Inconsistencies reduce the ease of our thoughts and the clarity of our feelings.

(...)

Conservative and nationalist political leaders in the US and across Europe already incite fear with tales of the twin monsters of Islamic fundamentalism and illegal immigration. But not everyone believes that immigration is a terrible threat, and most Right-wing conservatives don’t think that Western countries are at risk of becoming theocratic states under Sharia law. Communism, on the other hand, provides the perfect new (old) enemy. If your main policy agenda is shoring up free-market capitalism, protecting the wealth of the superrich and dismantling what little is left of social safety nets, then it is useful to paint those who envision more redistributive politics as wild-eyed Marxists bent on the destruction of Western civilisation.[/b]

Aeon


This is a riot and that you, apparently, don't recognize it as such is more of a riot.

Believe it or not there are decent and intelligent people who believe that shoring up free-market capitalism is a good thing for humanity.

The author could just as easily have written:

Quote:
If your main policy agenda is stripping wealth from achievers to gain power from the masses, sublimating individual rights in favor of the Collective, and driving your nation's economy into ruin simply for the sake of power, then it is useful to paint those who envision more free market politics as cold-hearted predators bent selfish exploitation of the workingman.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:34 am
@blatham,
Most of these poor souls are mentally ill. They don't belong in the military.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:37 am
@Walter Hinteler,
And why shouldn't it?

You see Walter this is a major difference between conservatives and leftists in this country. The former applauds First Amendment expression regardless of whether or not they agree with it, while the latter attempts to shut down any speech with which they don't agree.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:38 am
@coldjoint,
He's a kid...cut him some slack.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:42 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
He's a kid...cut him some slack.


That was kind of my point. He is not acting like one, he sounds like a very bitter, and foul mouthed adult. The Left needs to stop using children.
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hightor
 
  4  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 10:58 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
This is a riot and that you, apparently, don't recognize it as such is more of a riot.

I didn't write the article. Selecting quotes and posting out of context often leads to simplistic responses and faulty conclusions.
Quote:
The author could just as easily have written:

Sure, if he believed that. The fact that the converse of the statement conveys the opposite meaning is really not anything remarkable.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 11:00 am
@hightor,
Quote:
I didn't write the article. Selecting quotes and posting out of context often leads to simplistic responses and faulty conclusions.


The title is a lie. Period
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/billy-madison-fire.gif

Liar, liar pants on fire.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 11:13 am
@hightor,
You posted the article. Were we supposed to think it was the act of a disinterested observer? If you can't see the blatant contradiction in the article, I can't help you.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 24 Mar, 2018 11:14 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Most of these poor souls [transgender individuals] are mentally ill.
Followed by the next sentence...
Quote:
They don't belong in the military.
If psychological problems were a barrier to the US military, it's ranks would be considerably smaller.
Quote:
November 2017WASHINGTON – People with a history of “self-mutilation,” bipolar disorder, depression and drug and alcohol abuse can now seek waivers to join the Army under an unannounced policy enacted in August, according to documents obtained by USA TODAY.
USA today
As to your claim about mental illness, you probably want to avoid what the American Psychological Association has to say (after all, what the hell would they know)
Quote:
A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. For these individuals, the significant problem is finding affordable resources, such as counseling, hormone therapy, medical procedures and the social support necessary to freely express their gender identity and minimize discrimination. Many other obstacles may lead to distress, including a lack of acceptance within society, direct or indirect experiences with discrimination, or assault. These experiences may lead many transgender people to suffer with anxiety, depression or related disorders at higher rates than nontransgender persons.
More Here
So really the question that poses itself is whatever is going on in your head and whatever sources you've been attending to that lead you to a claim that has no apparent basis in anything other than prejudice.
 

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