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blatham
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:07 am
Forgiveness.

If or when it is clear that Trump has again been unfaithful to the wife he wed in the eyes of God, he will be forgiven by the religious right. If/when it is seen to be certain that this violation of the sacred wedding vows happened while Trump was rutting between the legs of a porn star, for this too Trump will be forgiven. That the rutting took place over months and even while Trump's beloved wife had just given birth to their son, will also be forgiven. We are all sinners, you see. We all make mistakes. It is not our place to judge, says scripture. And we know that Christ died on the cross so that our sins will be forgiven.

If and when these details of Trump's marriage behavior are brought to light, the christian right will, because of their proximity to holiness, forgive Trump. Fox analysts, in their holiness, will forgiven him too. Indeed, this readiness to forgive Trump will be a mark in their favor in the eyes of God.

Of course, precisely the same christian charity, this same sanctified and Jesus-like stance of forgiveness will mark how the christian right and Fox analysts speak, think and behave regarding the other sinner here - Stormy Daniels the porn star. Immediate and full forgiveness for her as well. This will come naturally to them, as believers and as holy moral agents working in the world towards God's goals. Count on it.

Amen.


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blatham
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:22 am
@Olivier5,
From the cartoon you linked, the third voice in the sequences says
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As "America First"-affiliated militias spring up across the country...

I trust we all grasp that if a serious constitutional crisis develops out of the Meuller investigation and the WH's response to it or its findings, the militia dudes and the NRA types who use "well-regulated militia" to protect America against the acts of a anti-constitutional tyrant heading up government as a justification for their gun fetishes, are going to come down solidly behind Trump. That is, and we should be clear and honest about this, these people will attach their allegiance to the leader of the state.
blatham
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:24 am
@revelette1,
That's really quite an amazing piece of illustration. He's good.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:44 am
@hightor,
I agree that Planned Parenthood is attempting genocide. It's guilty of other sins and crimes but not that one.

I don't agree however that the book is closed on Sanger, despite the official edict of Politifact

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Although the eugenics movement included some who had racist ideas...


And one might have been Sanger. That she didn't display prejudice toward blacks that had already been born doesn't necessarily mean that she didn't think the world would be better off if they and their fellow blacks had not been.

Liberals are forever telling us that racism can take many forms, many of which can be subtle.

If Politico thinks the following statement somehow exonerates Sanger, I certainly don't:

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Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they're born. That to me is the greatest sin -- that people can -- can commit.


I don't know how you can interpret this statement in any way other than a belief that delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things, have their nature determined by their genes and that society would be better off if they were not allowed to be born. In fact, she suggested that to do so was criminal.

All sorts of things covers a very wide range of possibilities and if Mike Wallace did not follow up with her on that statement, he should have.

This one statement of hers is a far cry for the following assertion about the Eugenics agenda:

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...the purpose of eugenics was to improve the human race by having people be more healthy through exercise, recreation in parks, marriage to someone free from sexually transmitted diseases, well-baby clinics, immunizations, clean food and water, proper nutrition, non-smoking and drinking.


The person who wrote it is clearly a Sanger apologist.

Sanger and the other members of the Eugenics movement may not have had a complete understanding of genetics, but they certainly knew enough not to think that behaviors like those listed would have anything but a slightly tangential effect on the gene pool.

I recently read the Nebula prize-winning novel, "Hominids" by Robert J. Sawyer. The story involves a world in a parallel universe where Neanderthals out survived Cro Magnons and developed a civilization that is roughly on par with that of the Cro Magnon civilization on our earth circa 2000.

The plot isn't exactly intriguing and the characters (particularly the Cro Magnons) are a bit one dimensional, but the virtue of the book is in the depth and detail of the Neandethal civilization Sawyer has imagined. "Hominids" is Sawyer's vehicle for not only critiquing the human civilization we currently live within but proposing a largely superior alternative.

The imagined criminal justice system of the Neaderthals is of relevance to this discussion. Every Neanderthal citizen, within a one-world society, is equipped at birth with an AI device called a "companion" which monitors and records literally every second of an individual's life (including, somehow, video that is external to the individual) and is transmitted to a facility called "The Alibi Archive." In this way no one can escape justice if they are guilty of a crime with which they have been charged, nor can they be convicted of a crime they have not committed.

As a result, crimes are very rare, but if any Neanderthal is convicted of a serious one (and virtually every act of violence is considered serious) there is only one punishment: the sterilization of the offender and all others who share at least half of his or her genes (parents, siblings and children).
The combination of the severity of the punishment and the cleansing of the gene pool has made violent crimes almost non-existent.

I suspect Margaret Sanger would have embraced such a system, and considering how many violent criminals have a long heritage of violent behavior in their lineage, it can be a tempting solution. Kudos to Sawyer for pointing out that for this sort of Eugenics minded solution to work innocent relations of the criminal must be punished as well. Still, the system is accepted with little to no resistance from the citizenry (any Neaderthal with libertarian notions is free to go wild and live outside of society), but they in the past also voluntarily underwent a process of the sterilization of the least intelligent 10% of their population.

My point in relating the story of the barasts (as the Neanderthals call themselves) is to provide an example of a society (albeit only a well-imagined one) in which Sanger would likely be very comfortable, and probably would have engineered if she could, in which assumptions and choices are not only made but revered, that for many of us are horrifying.

While it would be racist, by definition, for Sanger to believe that the human gene pool would be better off without the "ignorance, superstitions and doubts" (taken from her (in)famous letter) of "colored Negroes," she need not have reached that conclusion based on hatred or animosity.

How much separation is there in the thinking that the birth of children with the Mark of Cain is criminal and that the human gene pool would benefit from less pollution by any given race?

As for "The Letter," I'm not convinced that the infamous section referring to the extermination of the Negro people, was an admission by Sanger that her "Negro Project" was genocide, but I am also not convinced by the arguments made by her apologists that it was an entirely benign endeavor. This is not to say that Sanger was necessarily malignant, but she would not have been the first person to embark on a malignant path for what she believed were ultimately benign reasons.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 11:51 am
@izzythepush,
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You must admit it's funny when he gets so angry


You think so? I am not mad at anyone. It is only your insecurity that taints your limited and controlled feelings. And as far as local kids, none are victims of grooming gangs. And if they were I would say something or do something about it.

Next.
ehBeth
 
  2  
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 12:00 pm
I'm not so interested in Hope Hicks - but the middle of this piece is really interesting for some of the connections it manages to sort out.

I liked this little bit


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As it happened, Lewandowski lived in a townhouse he shared with a former Trump-campaign operative who worked at the same government agency as the official Porter dated. The townhouse belonged to Citizens United, the conservative group run by veteran right-wing agitator David Bossie,



The Farewell to the Class of 2017 video included is pretty damned fine.

https://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/what-hope-hicks-learned-in-washington.html

ehBeth
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 12:05 pm
@ehBeth,
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coldjoint
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 01:22 pm
http://i.magaimg.net/img/2uj3.png
http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/03/trump-is-americas-red-pill.html?spref=tw
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hightor
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 01:46 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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I don't agree however that the book is closed on Sanger, despite the official edict of Politifact

Okay, fine. I've read some of the early books on eugenics from that era — they were all over the place, some clearly racist but others really hoping that long-existing social problems could be addressed and solved by paying attention to genetics and that by giving parents the option of planning and timing the birth of their children they could provide the utmost security for the family.

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Sanger worked with African American leaders and professionals who saw a need for birth control in their communities. In 1929, James H. Hubert, a black social worker and the leader of New York's Urban League, asked Sanger to open a clinic in Harlem.[75] Sanger secured funding from the Julius Rosenwald Fund and opened the clinic, staffed with black doctors, in 1930. The clinic was directed by a 15-member advisory board consisting of black doctors, nurses, clergy, journalists, and social workers. The clinic was publicized in the African-American press as well as in black churches, and it received the approval of W. E. B. Du Bois, the co-founder of the NAACP and the editor of its magazine, The Crisis.[76][77][78][79] Sanger did not tolerate bigotry among her staff, nor would she tolerate any refusal to work within interracial projects.[80] Sanger's work with minorities earned praise from Martin Luther King, Jr., in his 1966 acceptance speech for the Margaret Sanger award.[81]

From 1939 to 1942 Sanger was an honorary delegate of the Birth Control Federation of America, which included a supervisory role—alongside Mary Lasker and Clarence Gamble—in the Negro Project, an effort to deliver birth control to poor black people.[82] Sanger, over the objections of other supervisors, wanted the Negro Project to hire black ministers in leadership roles. To emphasize the benefits of hiring black community leaders to act as spokesmen, she wrote to Gamble:

We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population[my italics], and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

New York University's Margaret Sanger Papers Project says that though the letter would have been meant to avoid the mistaken notion that the Negro Project was a racist campaign, conspiracy theorists have fraudulently attempted to exploit the quotation "as evidence she led a calculated effort to reduce the black population against their will".

wiki

I think the right-wing critics and conspiracy theorists simply executed a move common to political debate on all sides — grab a line or two out of context and run with it. I can see how someone could be led to think the statement is pernicious but really, that is an insult to the black community leaders who worked with Sanger, as if they wouldn't have been savvy enough to recognize her true intent.

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that Sanger was "racist", the question arises — do you really think the policies and social philosophy of the present-day Planned Parenthood organization has undergone no evolution over the past hundred years? I've been a supporter of PP for many, many years — I read their mailings and I've attended membership meetings. Contraceptive technology has changed a huge amount since the beginning of the birth control movement. So has Planned Parenthood. And so has our knowledge of the confluence of genetics and the environment.
coldjoint
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 02:34 pm
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McCabe said he was authorized to leak and that Comey knew about it. Who else was available to give the Deputy Director that authorization except for the Director?

Finally, 21 paragraphs into this story, Selk gets around to admitting that the Fox hosts the President was referencing “may have a point regardless.” He admits that McCabe’s statement “raises questions” about Comey’s testimoney last year… “even if it does not directly contradict it.”

Seriously? If it doesn’t contradict it, what’s the alternate explanation? One of these two people were lying. Either Comey lied under testimony or McCabe is lying now to cover his backside. Either way, the people that require fact checking aren’t Trump or the hosts of Fox & Friends. It’s the FBI. But fact checking them probably doesn’t generate as many clicks for the Washington Post.



https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/19/wapo-fact-checks-trumps-comey-lied-tweet-curious-results/
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 02:51 pm
Has Trump actually fired anyone as president?
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oralloy
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 02:57 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
I trust we all grasp that if a serious constitutional crisis develops out of the Meuller investigation and the WH's response to it or its findings, the militia dudes and the NRA types who use "well-regulated militia" to protect America against the acts of a anti-constitutional tyrant heading up government as a justification for their gun fetishes, are going to come down solidly behind Trump. That is, and we should be clear and honest about this, these people will attach their allegiance to the leader of the state.

You're talking like a serf here. For people who live in a free country, freedom and civil rights are not fetishes to be yearned for.

The focus on the militia came from liberals who were looking for a way to maliciously misread the Second Amendment so as to make a bogus argument in favor of violating civil rights. Some conservatives who didn't know any better took the liberals' lies to heart.

Since Trump is clearly in the right and has the full backing of the Constitution, anyone who cares about doing the right thing is going to support Trump 100%.
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oralloy
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 02:58 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
You think so? I am not mad at anyone. It is only your insecurity that taints your limited and controlled feelings. And as far as local kids, none are victims of grooming gangs. And if they were I would say something or do something about it.
Next.

Izzythepush always attempts to be cruel and mean-spirited. It's just a thing with him.
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BillW
 
  1  
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 03:07 pm
@revelette1,
Retaliation

Employers cannot fire or otherwise punish employees for their participation in certain protected practices. Protected practices include reporting illegal behavior, such as discrimination or safety violations, within the company or to outside enforcement agencies. They also include participating in any investigation into potentially illegal behavior, such as cooperating with investigators researching minimum wage violations.

The following questions will help you determine whether you have a valid claim for wrongful termination on the basis of retaliation:

Before being fired, did you report potential violations in the company to a supervisor, colleagues, your human resources department, or an enforcement agency such as OSHA?
If so, did your employer or supervisors react negatively or engage in any punishing behavior?
Before being fired, did you participate in an investigation of the company's behavior or practices?
Were you discouraged from or warned against such participation?
Were you discouraged from or punished for exercising your legal rights, such as by taking covered medical leave?
revelette1
 
  3  
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 03:20 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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So when Jeff Sessions maneuvers his way around a Senator's question it's blatant lying but when Comey does it's what? Clever? Acceptable?


You said you was a defense attorney. If you were advising Comey, would you advise him to answer questions which weren't asked?

Sessions was asked point blank whether he met or had meetings with any Russians, he directly answered the question (can't remember right this minute, have a headache...) anyway, he directly answered the questions untruthfully. When he came back again to answer for those questions he said something to the affect he didn't think they were important. (will look it up later if asked.)
blatham
 
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Mon 19 Mar, 2018 04:16 pm
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Republican leaders’ efforts to stop Pennsylvania from using a new congressional district map in midterm elections were dealt a potentially fatal blow Monday when the U.S. Supreme Court and a panel of federal judges both ruled against them.

The courts rejected requests to throw out or halt use of the map imposed last month by the state Supreme Court, which had ruled that a 2011 GOP-crafted district map violated the state constitution’s guarantee of free and equal elections.
TPM
Nice to see some good news.
BillW
 
  3  
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 04:49 pm
@blatham,
For the 2nd time. Alito made the soul decision to not bring the decision before the full court. Hardly a lefty decision!

Maybe this is a sign that SCOTUS will not let the Repubs run amok?
blatham
 
  2  
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 05:18 pm
@BillW,
We ought not to get carried away with Alito-enthusiasm. As his mother said, "He will only break your heart"
ehBeth
 
  2  
Mon 19 Mar, 2018 05:31 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
We ought not to get carried away with Alito-enthusiasm.


an interesting little bit of info I hadn't paid attention to in the past ... some historical friction between Alito and #45's sister

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Justice Alito, then Barry’s colleague on the appeals court, did not join Barry’s opinion, which he called “unnecessary” and “obsolete,” instead just ruling that the Supreme Court’s decision on partial-birth abortion governed the lower courts.

It’s one thing to say we shouldn’t hold this judicial opinion against Trump because he’s just praising his sister. (Even then, one might wish he would suggest that he had a different view.) But Justice Alito didn’t join that opinion and was right not to join it, and Trump is mistaken in suggesting otherwise.


NR
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