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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

The very stable genius strikes again.

"When a true genius appears in this world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-- Jonathan Swift

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@BillW,

The incompetence is somewhat surprising. You'd think Kobach would have been far better prepared than he is and it looks like his choice of representing himself was obviously the wrong decision. Why did he make that decision? Possibly he wanted direct control over the case though that begs the question of why? Possibly he did not grasp how insufficiently he was trained/educated to take on this case? Perhaps he suffers from delusions of his own personal grandeur? Who knows.

But in the process of looking up his legal background, I found the following on his wikipedia page. Attend closely here because this will explain a lot about Kobach and the modern GOP
In 1984, Kobach graduated from Washburn Rural High School in Topeka, Kansas, where he was co-valedictorian with Bill Allen, and class president.

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He earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in Government from Harvard University, graduating summa cum laude and first in his department.[30] It was there that he came under the influence of the director of the university's Center for International Affairs, Professor Samuel P. Huntington. As Kobach's mentor, he theorized that the United State suffered from a surfeit of democracy, and that diluting the power of the establishment would lead the country to ruin. In 1975 Huntington authored a pessimistic report entitled The Crisis of Democracy, about the challenge to the dominance of white Protestants by Hispanic immigrants. In his 1996 book, The Clash of Civilizations, he warned that “Mexicans pose the problem for the United States,” simultaneously predicting and bemoaning the growing influence of Muslims in Western Europe.[31]

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Sean Hannity, man of integrity.

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Many Fox News employees are ecstatic over the news that President Donald Trump has agreed to meet with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un. The Nobel Peace Prize has been mentioned on at least four different Fox shows already. But none on Fox have been as effusive in their praise as host Sean Hannity -- who attacked former President Barack Obama for being open to meeting with North Korea’s leader a decade ago.

But you have to read the full piece to see what Hannity said when Obama was in the WH. (Hint - it was different) MM

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@blatham,

I've no idea why Trump would be awarded a Nobel, just the same as I never understood Obama's.

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@roger,

roger wrote:

I've no idea why Trump would be awarded a Nobel, just the same as I never understood Obama's.

To date, Trump has never done anything to deserve the Peace Prize. Over eight years, Obama did nothing to deserve his. I think his being awarded it embarrassed even him. The idiotic, star-struck judges awarded it to him for two reasons:

1) The joined the Cult
2) In their hubris, they thought they would somehow empower him with their silly, tainted prize.

if the prize has any meaning, and by some miracle, NK is de-nuclearized, Trump should be awarded it.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Hopefully Trump will manage to get North Korea to de-nuclearize so he will also win the silly tainted prize which has no meaning from those idiotic, star-struck judges who think Trump has joined their cult. Now that, will really enhance the whole aura of that stupid Nobel Peace Prize. Thank God the world has Trump to bring back honor to that virtually useless prize.

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@glitterbag,

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Hopefully Trump will manage to get North Korea to de-nuclearize

Don't you mean that Trump should do something three presidents before him couldn't do? On top of it you say he should "manage" to? The traitor before him did nothing.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

The idiotic, star-struck judges awarded it to him for two reasons:
1) The joined the Cult
2) In their hubris, they thought they would somehow empower him with their silly, tainted prize.

Actually I think they awarded Obama the tainted prize because they were throwing a tantrum over Bush.

I think they awarded Carter (2002) and Gore (2007) the tainted prize as part of the same tantrum.

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@glitterbag,

It's more like the Ignoble Piece Prize, he would deserve that.....

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@BillW,

The Nobel ceremonies are in Stockholm, Sweden. We have extradition treaties with Sweden. I'm sure tRump will not be venturing out of Russia in December to any country that we have extradition treaties with. If he doesn't high tail it to Russia soon, he may be in prison. One of his rich rich crony buddies is now on the lam, Jho Low, for laudering money for the Malaysian Prime Minister and tRump golf buddy, Najib Razak. The noose is tightening around tRump. It is becomming quit clear he is PUBLIC ENEMY #1!

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@glitterbag,

I'm glad you've seen the light.

What would you call a prize awarded to someone who did absolutely nothing to earn it? Serious?

What would you call a prize given to a bloody-handed terrorist? Pristine?

You should stick to being earnest about your disgust with your fellow Americans who disagree with you. Your attempts at sarcasm are quite pathetic.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

if the prize has any meaning, and by some miracle, NK is de-nuclearized, Trump should be awarded it.

Well, the five members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee are appointed by the Norwegian Parliament. (But the committee is a private body tasked with awarding a private prize.)
So it's rather impossible that a non-Norwegian citizen can change ... the meaning of that prize.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

I don't have disgust with other Americans who have a different viewpoint. It is possible to respect others, well at least it is for me. You sound unhappy, and really that's a waste of your time. I wish for you more tranquility in your lifetime. Let me be clear, I have no animosity toward you......I think you are a little bit of a dick....but we all have our bad days. You really should refocus your energy, make yourself happier, go to movie, take your wife to a nice restaurant, something...I don't care, just pick something you like.

The reason I say this, is because if you hope to upset me with your bitter bull ****, you are wasting your time. Not my time, your time. Fill a bucket with water, then stick your hand in.......Now pull your hand out.....Did you do it? So what happened? Nothing, right? Nothing worth mentioning. There you go, that's how you affect me. Don't waste your energy....go do something that makes you happy. Adios

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@glitterbag,

You must admit it's one hell of a leap, yesterday it was announced Kim and Trump will meet, and now Finn's arguing that he should get the Nobel Peace prize for denuclearising the Korean peninsula.

In the real world North Korea has negotiated in inches, not miles, they'll be talking about lifting sanctions in return for some minor concessions on their part. Freezing the development of any more missiles and allowing inspectors in would be a really big step.

Meetings of this sort are usually preceded by about two months of negotiations so 60-80% of what will be discussed is ironed out beforehand. The real fear is that Trump and Kim just won't get on, they'll take a strong dislike to one another and set back relations ever further than before.

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@roger,

A lot of difference in those two cases. Obama's Nobel has to be understood in relation to who had come before. Recall that almost every nation either did not share Bush/Cheney's war-mongering attitude and refused to join in the military actions, or did so very reluctantly (ie the Brits). In both speech and actions/policies, Obama was validly seen as a force pushing away from war. Obama would not have been given the award if not for the administration that preceded him.

Trump, obviously, has said and done nothing that might lead pretty much anyone in the world outside of Russia's and Israel's present leadership that would lead to a nomination. The thought is ridiculous. Except for Fox News.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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if the prize has any meaning, and by some miracle, NK is de-nuclearized, Trump should be awarded it.

Sure. Mind you, the chances of that barking, deranged and immoral conman's chances of even beginning to bring this about are less likely than you and I having miraculous sex. It is entirely uncertain whether or not there will even be a meeting.

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Looks like the White House is walking it all back, saying N. Korea will have to de-nuclearize before any meeting. Good PR cycle for both side, no change in reality.

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@engineer,

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Good PR cycle

But not as good as next week when Trump will announce that he is going to organize a great ball in the WH where he will renew his vows to Melania - and he'll make Stormy Daniels pay for it.

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Yuka yuka yuka

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Amid stories about Trump’s alleged past sexual activity, administration focuses on abstinence-only education

WP

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@engineer,

Kim has already won brownie points from his own propagandistic point of view. He can crow at home that the most powerful leader in the world is coming to him, and he hasn't given anything away. To my mind, the significant thing is that he has insisted that the "nuclear umbrella" protecting South Korea and Japan be withdrawn. That's something no sensible administration would agree to, so Kim can claim that he tried, but that the U.S. was intransigent. From his domestic point of view, he's already won.

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