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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 04:28 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

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Lord knows Trump isn't perfect, and his contributions to the unfounded and dangerous paranoia about vaccines is based on ignorance and is a disservice to the country, but you guys made us choose between him and the utterly corrupt Hillary Clinton...

Hey, we were counting on you guys to impeach her and then we could have all moved on...sheesh!

You probably should have been clearer on that.


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Between this and her expectation that God will tell her to run for president if he so desires it of her...

I thought that reference was a joke, not a real "expectation", and it was mocking Pence's claim that he converses with Jesus.

I suppose it's possible since I admit I haven't spoken with Oprah about it or read everything written on it, but I believe you are dead wrong here. Oprah, to her credit, is not known for mockery
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coldjoint
 
  -3  
Wed 7 Mar, 2018 04:34 pm
@izzythepush,
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Who cares about what a porn star does,


Probably not too much different of anyone who works for a living. You realize when you are paid it is called work. But your selective hate is still amusing.
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 05:18 pm
@Setanta,
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I do have some sympathy for the poorly educated, confused people whose world view is overturned by mere science. But the true scum bags are the phony preachers and the greedy corporate types who forward the narrative solely for personal gain.
Yes on both.

I was thinking this morning of the disadvantages that attend growing up in a family where the reigning idea about education is that the children should get out from the grip of "liberal brainwashing" and that they should certainly NOT go to university for that same reason.
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blatham
 
  1  
Wed 7 Mar, 2018 05:23 pm
Tierney Sneed from TPM has been following and reporting on the court action re Kobach's attempt to screw voters likely to vote Dem. Today's reporting here
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blatham
 
  1  
Wed 7 Mar, 2018 05:41 pm
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Fox's Jesse Watters: Trump can't be racist because he dated a black model for two years

That's a fine observation and, I'm sure, a proper means of identifying those who are or are not racist.

Now, many on the right these days have been advised that there are substantial numbers of blacks who demonstrate much of (or most of) the real racism in America. These RW folks would, I gather, fervently wish that many more black men dated many more white women as this would be evidence of a much diminished level of racism in the black community.
blatham
 
  1  
Wed 7 Mar, 2018 06:01 pm
Jason sounds like a thoughtful person
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Jason Storms, an extremist anti-choice activist who says that a woman who has an abortion is “guilty as a murderer in the eyes of the law,” has gotten a job as a substitute teacher in the Milwaukee Public Schools and is boasting of his success in preaching to students on the state’s dime, according to the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

FFRF called attention last week to a Facebook post in which Storms said that his first day in the classroom “reaffirmed” his “disgust with the public education system” but that he also “got to share [his] testimony and preach boldly to hundreds of students for hours, while the state paid me.”
RWW
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 06:12 pm
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Eric Boehlert
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@EricBoehlert
still waiting for that mountain of Beltway columns demanding to know how First Lady stays while she gets publicly humiliated by husband.

Hillary was buried by them during the '90s

And ain't it so.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 7 Mar, 2018 06:13 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
blatham wrote:
Darwin is evil.

I recall reading an article a couple months ago about a recent study that gave Darwinism a major kick in the teeth.
I was going to go post it in one of the threads fighting over Darwinism, but I'm so busy that I never got around to it.

Done:
http://able2know.org/topic/364707-4#post-6609455
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 06:22 pm
Looks like Pence and Hope Hicks both had private email accounts to conduct public business and both were hacked. I expect we'll hear more on this over the next while unless we can't hear anything for the din of "Lock Them Up" chants.
blatham
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 06:25 pm
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Amanda Marcotte
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It’s a bullshit diversion from guns, but I do look forward to how the whiny little Gamergate trolls react to their beloved would-be fascist leader picking on their favorite pastime.

This is exactly the sort of discord in America that Putin finds so sad and unfortunate. Believe me.
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 06:36 pm
As Ronald Reagan said (in front of cameras) "There is absolutely no reason why out on the street today civilians should be carrying a loaded weapon"
oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 7 Mar, 2018 06:38 pm
@blatham,
Civil rights is a pretty good reason.
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blatham
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 06:45 pm
Long time leader in the religious right (who, just like Jesus, has accumlated somewhere between $200 million and $1 billion in personal worth) Pat Robertson. Let's give it up for this holy man.

https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/pat-robertson.jpg
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ehBeth
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 07:23 pm
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/expert-shares-insights-into-what-nuclear-deescalation-with-north-korea-would-look-like-1.4566518

interesting listen/read

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According to Revere, North Koreans are asking for the same measures they've demanded since the 1990s in return for their nuclear descalation. They want "military threats resolved" and for the North Korean regime to be "secure."

"The phrase that the North Koreans use at the negotiating table with us — and I continue to hear today in my meetings with them… is that 'North Korea seeks the denuclearization of the whole Korean peninsula.' And when you ask the North Koreans: 'What does that mean?' They respond very forthrightly. It means the removal of 'the threat' — their word — the 'threat.'"

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According to Revere, this so-called security "threat" consists of three components, which together make for an unreasonable ask on the part of the North Koreans.

It entails 1) the existence of the U.S.-South Korea alliance, 2) the presence of U.S. troops on the Korean peninsula, and 3) the nuclear umbrella provided by the United States to guarantee the security of our South Korean and Japanese allies.


"And as the gentleman who is now the DPRK [Democratic People's Republic of Korea] foreign minister told us at a meeting in New York City a few years ago, 'If you remove those three things we will then feel secure and then at some point — he suggested 10 or 20 years down the line — we could then consider denuclearization.'"

But Revere says this idea of a meeting between senior representatives of the United States and the DBRK to explore what North Korea means specifically by "denuclearization", "the threat" and "security" in this particular instance is still valuable.

"I have a suspicion I know what the answers will be — but let's give it a shot."


podcast


http://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcasts/current-affairs-information/the-current/

fuller transcript of episode about halfway down this page/link

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-march-7-2018-1.4565466/march-7-2018-episode-transcript-1.4566543#segment1
blatham
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 07:55 pm
@ehBeth,
The notion that Trump's bellicose statements (and Pense's glowering from SK) will have changed NK's mind is more than a little ridiculous.
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BillW
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 08:02 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

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Fox's Jesse Watters: Trump can't be racist because he dated a black model for two years


That's great, except, it is ok and been widely known for rightwingers to stick their @@@@ into anything they can get their hands on regardless of age, gender, color or phylum......at a reasonable price though. It won't change their rw cred or be questioned by other rw's either.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 08:25 pm
@hightor,
We just saw a member here propose the simple solution of depriving the unvaccinated children of both public and private educations. Not quite as dystopian as a society where children are seized and forcefully vaccinated, but not even a little troubling? (irrespective of MJ's hypocrisy vis-a-vis the Dreamers)

The charlatans have been exposed. The nutty Brit who moved to Austin (to help keep it weird) has been discredited and disgraced.

Liberals seem to have an obsession with Alex Jones that is very disproportionate to his influence. I didn't even know who he was until his name kept being invoked as the personification of evil in this forum, and I still have yet to hear him speak on the radio, TV, or You-Tube. What I know of his conspiracy theory schtick tells me he is either completely unhinged or a huckster. I lean heavily towards the latter theory.

Conspiracy theorists annoy the hell out of me, but they've been with us for a long time and I expect they will be for many years to come. Right now in America we have a cabal of consisting of Democrat party leaders, former Obama Administration officials and major news networks peddling a conspiracy theory about Trump colluding with the Russians...What's that? The Trump Collusion story is different?

The New Yorker just published an article by Jane Mayer that contends that Trump chose Rex Tillerson over Mitt Romney for his Secretary of State at the direction of the Kremlin, because all of the dirt in the salacious Steele Dossier is true and the evidence of this is being held over Trump's head.

According to Mayer, Putin wanted someone appointed to the Cabinet position who would be prepared to lift Ukraine-related sanctions, and who would coöperate on security issues of interest to Russia, such as the conflict in Syria.

Of course, the Ukraine related sanctions have not been lifted and the Trump Administration has increased military aid to the country, well beyond the pouch-o-meals provided by the Obama Administration.

No matter how stupid anyone believes Trump is, he's certainly not so dumb as to think that the Kremlin would interpret the firing of cruise missiles against a Syrian airbase shortly after he was inaugurated as cooperating on the conflict in Syria.

Nevermind the above, Mayer still believes Trump is at the end of Putin's strings, or rather she writes that she does in the continuing and concerted effort to influence Americans to believe it.

The article is a blatant piece of propaganda intended to help rehabilitate the image of Richard Steele, and Mayer not only casts him in a sympathetic light, she attempts to lionize him.

Every night we can find Democrat politicians or "strategists" (aka "mouthpieces") on TV, speaking about Russian Collusion as proven fact, and making vague assertions about evidence that doesn't exist. When pressed, on "The View", to provide specific examples of the evidence he claims exists, Adam Schiff's only response was that it was already out in the public sphere. You would think, wouldn't you, that if there was specific evidence and it had already been made public and so could not provide him with a "secrecy" cover, that he would be will, ready and delighted to quote it chapter and verse. Instead, he resorts to a vague reference that is really just part of his wholepackage of misinformation, disinformation, and lies. This the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, and not some huckster shock jock.

Hucksters like Jones would not be able to stir up distrust in our institutions if our institutions were rock solid, and they are anything but.

blatham
 
  2  
Wed 7 Mar, 2018 08:37 pm
Winner of today's Best Headline award goes to Josh Marshall
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Erik Prince Might Want To Shift Investments To Private Prison Industry
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BillW
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 08:39 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Looks like Pence and Hope Hicks both had private email accounts to conduct public business and both were hacked. I expect we'll hear more on this over the next while unless we can't hear anything for the din of "Lock Them Up" chants.

Why do I get the sense that tRump and Pince having 2020 campaigns ongoing may enter into these sort of transactions as excuses, hhhmmmmm......
blatham
 
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Wed 7 Mar, 2018 08:52 pm
@BillW,
Not sure what you mean, bill.
 

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