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@camlok,

Listen, if you could simply back away from your conspiracies about the "9/11 hoax"; we could have a conversation.

I agree both the left and right are equally responsible for the wars in the ME and that part of the world in which we have been at for way too long.

I read an article this morning about the companies who benefit the most from wars. In the US, defense contractors profit the most; 374.8 billion dollars in 2016. So there is profit to be made in keeping the wars going and until regular people wise up to that fact, regular people are just going to keep thinking the wars are a necessary evil we need to do in order to be safe. So there is room for agreement, I just don't want to get bogged down in conspiracies; whether there is any truth to them or not makes little difference to me.

20 companies profiting the most from wars.

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@nimh,

nimh wrote:

nononono wrote:
Is there a written list of clearly defined rules on this site, so that people who participate know exactly what to do and what not to do?

"Clearly defined" is definitely in the eye of the beholder, but there is a list of A2K rules. Doesn't lay out exactly what counts or doesn't count as name calling though - would probably be impossible anyway. There's also a bit more info in this blog post.

To add, a "Rules" link is at the bottom of every page! Not hard to find.

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@nononono,

Really? Show me where.

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@revelette1,

rev, it isn't a D/R thing, it began back, a long time ago:

The First Crusade was the first of a number of crusades that attempted to recapture the Holy Land, called for by Pope Urban II at the Council of Clermont in 1095.

When Bush Jr. went into Araq, he invoked the Crusades. Then again, it began at the dawn of mankind. There have always been sectarian battles of some kind. Advanced "Civilization" is defined by curing the need to kill others because they are different from "us". We haven't advanced one iota in this regard for the cavemen. Sad, so sad!

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@Glennn,

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Thanks for unwittingly explaining why handguns are used in the vast majority of mass shootings.

You're more than welcome. We know that assault-style weapons have been used as well. Better data would show if this were part of a trend. But there must be a reason why these shooters would prefer these to handguns — or they'd use handguns. I believe it may be connected to the substantially increased firepower and their psychological allure.

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Since you are not in favor of banning handguns, how do you feel about having handguns referred to as assault style pistols?

I don't care how people refer to them; I'm concerned how they use them.

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@hightor,

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Better data would show if this were part of a trend.

Mass shootings have been documented. The data confirms that handguns are preferred by a 5 to1 ratio.

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But there must be a reason why these shooters would prefer these to handguns — or they'd use handguns.

But they do prefer handguns, and that's why they use handguns.

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I don't care how people refer to them; I'm concerned how they use them.

So, since handguns are used more oftern in mass shootings by a ratio of 5 to 1, you must actually be in favor of a ban on handguns. Correct?

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@BillW,

There is that element involved but I think profit is driving factor to wars. If there was no profit in it, I think a lot of our leaders would quickly lose any feelings of crusades or religious wars reasoning.

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@BillW,

All true, Bill, but why are you so guarded in your condemnation of the actual war criminals that invaded "Araq", ummmm, Iraq.

You know of course, based on the USA military scientist's 1990s developed nanothermites, a "new generation of explosives", "super thermites" that were found in WTC dust, that Bush and his criminal neocons perpetrated the evil lies of 9/11, created the 9/11 false flag event, just so they could invade other countries.

Shortly after 9/11, a military officer at the Pentagon told Gen Wesley Clark that they had plans to invade Iraq. A few days later, the same officer told Clark that the neocons had plans to invade 7 countries in five years.

General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

There is that element involved but I think profit is driving factor to wars. If there was no profit in it, I think a lot of our leaders would quickly lose any feelings of crusades or religious wars reasoning.

That, plus power and land grab. But, those are secondary tosocial diferences that makes it morally ok. Anyways, morally ok in their minds. The leaders use differences between the peoples and Nationalism to juice up the troops. Note that tRump uses both almost daily!

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@BillW,

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The leaders use differences between the peoples and Nationalism to juice up the troops. Note that tRump uses both almost daily!

Didn't Obama make frequent use of drones to murder people around the globe. That is also a war crime.

Again, why are you being so guarded in your speech, "The leaders", when you know full well who these people are? That kind of cognitive dissonance is child like, but children can be forgiven because they haven't learned how to cope with mental anguish/pain.

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looks like Mueller's back at my favourite combo of Kushner and real estate

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@revelette1,

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Listen, if you could simply back away from your conspiracies about the "9/11 hoax"; we could have a conversation.

rev, this may come as somewhat of a shock but the "conspiracy theorists", with the relatively new, pejorative meaning, are people exactly like you who believe in the US Government Official Conspiracy Theory [USGOCT].

The USGOCT is, by the new pejorative definition, a conspiracy theory - 19 Arab radical fundamentalists hijacked 4 planes and flew them ... .

The problem is, and I know that you will find it exceedingly difficult to believe and accept, is that there are many impossible events that occurred on that day which makes the USGOCT an impossible story.

In the 1990s, US government military scientists developed a "new generation of explosives", "super thermites". These are made up of "granules" at the atomic scale, at the NANO scale; one nanometer equals one billionth of a meter.

To help you grasp this tiny size, one millimeter, roughly 1/32 of an inch is divided into a million parts. That's not exact but it does give you great idea of the incredibly tiny size.

This nanothermite was found in WTC dust. It was described in a peer reviewed scientific paper, one that has never been challenged.

There was no legal/legitimate reason for any explosive to be at WTC.

"Arab hijackers" didn't bring any explosives.

There certainly was no legal/legitimate reason for any solely US government owned NANOTHERMITE to be at WTC, to be found in WTC dust.

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Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

Niels H. Harrit*,1, Jeffrey Farrer2
, Steven E. Jones*,3, Kevin R. Ryan4
, Frank M. Legge5
,
Daniel Farnsworth2
, Gregg Roberts6
, James R. Gourley7
and Bradley R. Larsen3
1Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
2
Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Provo, UT 84602, USA
3
S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA
4
9/11 Working Group of Bloomington, Bloomington, IN 47401, USA
5
Logical Systems Consulting, Perth, Western Australia
6
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Berkeley, CA 94704, USA
7
International Center for 9/11 Studies, Dallas, TX 75231, USA
Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the
destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in
this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan
resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later.
The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy
dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately
100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation
of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum
are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring
at approximately 430 ˚C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich
spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these
chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

There was WTC structural steel that had been melted and vaporized. That requires temperatures of 2,800F for melting, 4,900F+ for vaporization. The maximum temperature attainable with jet fuel and office furnishings, the only fuels the "Arab hijackers" had available to them is 1,500F.

The US government story is impossible. There are many other impossibilities of the USGOCT, too many to catalog right now. But as you can see from the above, impossible is impossible. Which makes the US government story a total impossibility.

Armed with this knowledge, thinking people should be saying, " If this is true, then ... ."

Then it is a simple matter of determining its truth and taking it from there.

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@ehBeth,

You can see how the entire investigation is maturing and getting closer and closer to he whose name must not be spoken

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@ehBeth,

PS, who is your present avatar of? If I may say, shes a bit creepy to me. She looks like shes blowing spit bubbles like a little baby

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

looks like Mueller's back at my favourite combo of Kushner and real estate

666

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

PS, who is your present avatar of? If I may say, shes a bit creepy to me. She looks like shes blowing spit bubbles like a little baby

farmer, you don't recognize fashion when you see it? Ahhhh, me either Shocked

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@farmerman,

it's me

really

run through one of those awesome beauty apps

I kind of love the nostrils

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Our kids would be home schooled before this would happen!

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@ehBeth,

could you take the general and outfit him with huge George Burns Glasses?? Thatd be me pretty much

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@Glennn,

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But they do prefer handguns, and that's why they use handguns.

This is from revelette's link:

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AR-15-style rifles were around for more than 40 years before one was used in a mass killing, at an apartment in Crandon, Wis., in 2007. The shooter killed six people and then took his own life.

However, gunmen (and at least one gunwoman) have used AR-15-style weapons in most all of the deadliest shootings in this decade.

A partial list includes:

- The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people last October.

- The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives in November.

- The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead in 2016.

- The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people in 2015.

- The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives in 2012.

Evidently these shooters preferred AR15 styled weapons, and in fact, in most of the deadliest shootings of this decade. Why?

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So, since handguns are used more oftern in mass shootings by a ratio of 5 to 1...

There is not enough information provided in those numbers for us to use them as anything more than the findings of one study. I'm interested in current emerging trends, not static historical data.

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