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Glennn
 
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Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:21 pm
@oralloy,
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You're thinking like a European serf.

That would be a step up for him.
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oralloy
 
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Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:21 pm
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
All you had to do was post a link to your "statistics." I don't doubt you, I would merely like to see the original graph. Or at least the name of your source so I could look it up.

http://able2know.org/topic/267070-439#post-6601262


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These weapons can go for less than $1,000, though they can be customized and cost in the thousands of dollars.

One of the many positive effects of the SHARE Act is that it will allow the mass importing of really cheap AK‑47s into the country (semi‑auto‑only of course).

Unfortunately the bill is stuck in committee. I'll be voting third party in 2018 if the Republicans don't get in gear and start passing some pro‑gun legislation.
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revelette1
 
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Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:29 pm
@Glennn,
Ok, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and just accept your repeated statement of handguns being used more in mass shootings.

The following seems to me to be a good idea and perhaps better than focusing so much on what type of gun is used in mass shootings.

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Bill Tracker: A ban on large capacity ammunition magazines

Each legislative session thousands of bills and amendments are introduced in the Pennsylvania Legislature. Only a fraction become law, and an even smaller portion receive wide media coverage.

About the bill

The United States is in the midst of another round of debates about possible gun control legislation following a mass shooting that killed 17 people at a high school in Parkland, Florida, in February.

Pennsylvania is not immune from this debate.

Several bills have been introduced in the state Legislature aimed at addressing gun violence through things like background checks and bans on certain types of firearms or accessories.

Rep. Kevin Boyle, D-Montgomery County, has introduced a bill that doesn’t focus on the gun per se, but rather how much ammunition it can hold.

These bills impact the lives of people living in Pennsylvania every day.

Each week The Sentinel will highlight one bill that has not received widespread attention.


source
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:44 pm
@nononono,
You've got it wrong, people don't take you seriously. Isn't that why you adopt such a ridiculous persona?

I thought you were some sort of piece of internet performance art, nobody's meant to take it seriously.
hightor
 
  3  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:53 pm
@Glennn,
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What does that have to do with the fact that handguns are used way more often than rifles in mass shootings?

I'm guessing that the increased firepower of the AR15 and other similar assault-style weapons represents a perceived risk greater than that inherent in a pistol or revolver. To be certain we'd have to see more extensive statistics such as:

1) a list of every single "mass shooting" in the USA since say, August , 1966 (Texas Tower shooting)
2) a list of the weapon(s) and ammunition used and an estimate of how many rounds were fired and whether extra magazines were involved
3) number of dead and injured

Then we'd want to compare the type of weapons, how many pistols, revolvers, hunting rifles, shotguns, assault or military style weapons.

We'd want to pay attention to the injuries and see if we can establish any correlation between type of firearm, distance from shooter, severity of injury, etc.

Next would be to look to see if there were patterns developing, such as whether handguns are as popular today as they were over past decades and see if we can establish any trends in firearm preference. Just saying that more handguns than rifles have been used historically doesn't tell us that much about the choices that are being made today.

blatham
 
  3  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:54 pm
@izzythepush,
Try to avoid taking the bait, izzy.
oralloy
 
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Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:56 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
I'm guessing that the increased firepower of the AR15 and other similar assault-style weapons represents a perceived risk greater than that inherent in a pistol or revolver.

Adding a pistol grip to a rifle does not give it any increase in firepower.
blatham
 
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Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:58 pm
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Trump confidant dumped millions in steel-related stock last week
Carl Icahn has impeccable timing.
TP

Sure, sounds fishy. I'm sure these men are ethical. Probably Carl just attended to his horoscope that particular morning.
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Glennn
 
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Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:58 pm
@hightor,
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To be certain we'd have to see more extensive statistics

Say, that sounds like a swell idea. Why don't you provide that?

Oh, I almost forgot:

DO YOU SUPPORT A BAN ON HANDGUNS?
izzythepush
 
  1  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 01:59 pm
@blatham,
I've said my piece, made my point. Just one more thing on banning alcohol, no way. Not with stuff like this out there.

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blatham
 
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Fri 2 Mar, 2018 02:03 pm
A bit more from Jon Chait on the Pruitt story.
Quote:
Environmental Protection Agency administrator Scott Pruitt refuses to accept the theory of anthropogenic global warming, so it probably does not come as an enormous shock that Pruitt also refuses to accept the theory of evolution by natural selection. “There aren’t sufficient scientific facts to establish the theory of evolution,” Pruitt told a radio host in 2005, in tapes obtained by Politico.

Pruitt also expressed a number of other orthodox theocratic right-wing views, many of which he framed as part of his religious worldview. An EPA spokesman, asked about whether Pruitt’s skepticism of scientific conclusions conflicts with his mandate to follow science at the EPA, tells Politico, “If you’re insinuating that a Christian should not serve in capacity as EPA administrator, that is offensive and a question that does not warrant any further attention."
NYMag

Of course, no such implication is present in that question. Pruitt is effectively lying here. Or he's just really very stupid. I'd entertain either possibility.
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hightor
 
  4  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 02:04 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Adding a pistol grip to a rifle does not give it any increase in firepower.

Yes, that fact has been established. But the increased barrel length and the larger amount of propellant in high-powered rifle ammo enables the projectiles to reach higher speeds with greater knockdown power and potential fragmentation in the body.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 02:04 pm
And for kids who don't like the taste of beer there's this.

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hightor
 
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Fri 2 Mar, 2018 02:05 pm
@Glennn,
Quote:
Why don't you provide that?

Because, as far as I know it's not available.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 02:06 pm
If alcohol doesn't get you there.

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oralloy
 
  -4  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 02:07 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Yes, that fact has been established.

Then why do you keep referring to assault-style or military-style as if they were a different class of guns?
 

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