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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  3  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 05:53 am
Only the very best people
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Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt dismissed evolution as an unproven theory, lamented that “minority religions” were pushing Christianity out of “the public square” and advocated amending the Constitution to ban abortion, prohibit same-sex marriage and protect the Pledge of Allegiance and the Ten Commandments, according to a newly unearthed series of Oklahoma talk radio shows from 2005.

Pruitt, who at the time was a state senator, also described the Second Amendment as divinely granted and condemned federal judges as a “judicial monarchy” that is “the most grievous threat that we have today."
Politico

The man's a ******* genius.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 05:56 am
How cool is this.
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AUSTIN — The number of women running for Congress here this year is surging, fueled by indignation over the wave of sexual harassment claims against office-holders, anti-Trump sentiment and an abundance of seats left open by the retirements of longtime incumbents.

At least 50 female challengers have filed to run in Texas congressional races in the March 6 primary, raising the prospect that Texas — a state with 36 districts but just three women in its House delegation — will finally see its breakthrough moment for women in 2018.
Politico
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izzythepush
 
  6  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 05:58 am
@nononono,
nononono wrote:


I was banned for over TWO ENTIRE YEARS!


Thanks for pointing that out, it avoids confusion. I thought you might have been banned for over two partial years, like when we changed from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar.

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Olivier5
 
  2  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 06:00 am
@oralloy,
I lack the technical knowledge to make specific suggestions, and I've not been politically mandated by anyone to look into the matter. These things need to start from a position of technical credibility. A pannel of recognised experts making a set of recommendations based on a thorough technical analysis of each variable and their combination... Then congress should translate this technical advice into a law regulating various types of weapons, features and ammos depending on their potential lethality.

The next step is to usher in an amnesty period during which people can surrender now-illegal weapons without a fine. The collected weapons could be purchased by the state if that helps (buy-back scheme), then burned publicly in a series of huge bonfires, broadcasted live as a symbol that the nation is turning a page.

The point I am trying to make is that the technical discussion is important but should not be allowed to distract from what is essential a political and cultural process of change.
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blatham
 
  4  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 06:01 am
Winner of today's Big Frigging Surprise award
Quote:
After a meeting in the Oval Office, the N.R.A.’s top lobbyist said that President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence “support strong due process and don’t want gun control.”
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hightor
 
  5  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 06:04 am
Jared Kushner Flames Out

Quote:
For a Middle East negotiator, President Trump could have chosen a seasoned envoy trusted by all stakeholders and fluent in the region’s nuance. Instead he appointed the heir to an opaque Manhattan real estate empire with deep ties to Israel who boasts that, as a businessman, “I don’t care about the past.”

To lead his initiative on government innovation, Mr. Trump could have named a dynamic authority on technology and entrepreneurship. Instead he chose someone who failed in an expensive effort to bring a New York newspaper into the digital age.

When selecting his closest adviser, Mr. Trump could have chosen from among seasoned and wise strategists. Instead, he picked a political novice with no experience in government.

For all of these crucial roles, Mr. Trump turned to his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Though Mr. Trump voices high praise for Mr. Kushner’s talent, the fact that he’s family is qualification enough for a president obsessed with close-lipped loyalty and uninterested in policy unless it benefits himself.

NYT
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McGentrix
 
  -2  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 06:26 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Better gun laws could save thousands of lives, major nonpartisan US study finds
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Passing an assault weapons ban might prevent 170 mass shooting deaths a year in the US, experts who support gun control estimate. Passing a universal background check law could prevent 1,100 gun homicides each year. Raising the age limit for buying firearms could prevent 1,600 homicides and suicides.

These are some of the new estimates in a groundbreaking study of the potential impact of American gun control laws. The nonpartisan analysis, based on a review of existing gun policy research and a survey of the best guesses of both gun-rights and gun-control experts, was conducted by the Rand Corporation, which spent two years and more than $1m on the project.



170?

Thanks Obama... Here is something very few know and even fewer liberals care about. CDC had some interesting observations to make...

PRIORITIES FOR RESEARCH TO REDUCE THE THREAT OF FIREARM-RELATED VIOLENCE

1. Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker:
“Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”

2. Defensive uses of guns are common:
“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

3. Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining:
“The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons.” The report also notes, “Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”

4. “Interventions” (i.e, gun control) such as background checks, so-called assault rifle bans and gun-free zones produce “mixed” results:
“Whether gun restrictions reduce firearm-related violence is an unresolved issue.” The report could not conclude whether “passage of right-to-carry laws decrease or increase violence crime.”

5. Gun buyback/turn-in programs are “ineffective” in reducing crime:
“There is empirical evidence that gun turn in programs are ineffective, as noted in the 2005 NRC study Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review. For example, in 2009, an estimated 310 million guns were available to civilians in the United States (Krouse, 2012), but gun buy-back programs typically recover less than 1,000 guns (NRC, 2005). On the local level, buy-backs may increase awareness of firearm violence. However, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for example, guns recovered in the buy-back were not the same guns as those most often used in homicides and suicides (Kuhn et al., 2002).”

6. Stolen guns and retail/gun show purchases account for very little crime:
“More recent prisoner surveys suggest that stolen guns account for only a small percentage of guns used by convicted criminals. … According to a 1997 survey of inmates, approximately 70 percent of the guns used or possess by criminals at the time of their arrest came from family or friends, drug dealers, street purchases, or the underground market.”

7. The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides:
“Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States.”

I think the second point above should be reiterated here:
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Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010).


Does this matter to any of you?

Walter? 500,000 to more than 3,000,000 people saved by having a gun annually compared to 107 lost to mass shootings....
Olivier5
 
  2  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 06:41 am
@McGentrix,
Buy back schemes are largely symbolic and as such, hard to evaluate precisely, but I think they are useful as symbols of a national commitment to detox. They can also be a gimmick, like anything goverments do, but I think it's mistaken to 1) look at them as pure technical steps to disarm (as such, they are rarely effective), and 2) neglecg the power of symbols to change a society.

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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 07:07 am
A short journey into Devin Nunes' mind. Enjoy!
Quote:
In a statement provided to the Times, Nunes’ camp didn’t deny leaking the texts to Fox News. Instead, Nunes spokesman Jack Langer attacked the Times for writing about it in the first place.

“The New York Times, a prominent purveyor of leaks, is highlighting anonymous sources leaking information that accuses Republicans of leaking information,” he said. “I’m not sure if this coverage could possibly get more absurd.”
MM
Now, wasn't that fun.
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hightor
 
  4  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 07:19 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
The CDC requested the study to identify research goals after Obama issued his January 2012 executive order. The National Academies's study authors clearly see gun violence as a problem worth examining: “By their sheer magnitude, injuries and deaths involving firearms constitute a pressing public health problem."

The authors suggested focusing on five areas: the characteristics of firearm violence, risk and protective factors, interventions and strategies, gun safety technology and the influence of video games and other media. The document is peppered with examples of how little we know about the causes and consequences of gun violence -- no doubt the result of an 18-year-old CDC research ban.

But gun-rights supporters zeroed on in a few statements to make their case. One related to the defensive use of guns. The New American Magazine article noted that "Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008."

So it would appear the "good use" of guns outweighs the "bad use." That may be true, except the study says all of those statistics are in dispute -- creating, in the study authors' eyes, a research imperative.

The study (available as a PDF) calls the defensive use of guns by crime victims "a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed." While it might be as high as 3 million defensive uses of guns each year, some scholars point to the much lower estimate of 108,000 times a year. "The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field," the study notes.

The authors also say gun ownership might be good for defensive uses, but that benefit could be canceled out by the risk of suicide or homicide that comes with gun ownership. The depth of the relationship is unknown "and this is a sufficiently important question that it merits additional, careful exploration."

Another point gun-rights activists make about the National Academies's report is that "the key finding the president was no doubt seeking — that more laws would result in less crime — was missing."

And they're right. The key finding is missing. But that's because we don't know the answer -- one way or the other.


WP
One CDC study, and the numbers are disputed. After an eighteen year absence of CDC research spurred by — who else — the NRA, all the study really confirms is the need for research. When you see numbers like this:
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with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year

— there's a sixfold difference. We can't devise policy based on statistics which are unclear. But it's a start.
BillW
 
  2  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 07:36 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
Do I really have to explain to you the sarcasm in my use of "riff raff?"

No. Rolling Eyes

Coming from a deplorable - yes!
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Glennn
 
  -1  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 07:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Passing an assault weapons ban might prevent 170 mass shooting deaths a year in the US, experts who support gun control estimate.

Like everyone else under the assault weapons spell, they, too, choose to turn a blind eye to the fact that handguns are used more often than rifles during mass shootings by a 5 to 1 ratio.
Lash
 
  -4  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 08:19 am
Those assault rifles don’t shoot any faster than my glock.

This is attempted over-reach, IMO.

Start with other common sense changes.
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 08:21 am
@Glennn,
So, do you want to ban handguns?

(It's possible that the more devastating wounds caused by the higher velocity of rifle ammunition is sufficient reason to explain the preoccupation with assault-style weapons.)
maporsche
 
  4  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 08:26 am
@Lash,
They most assuredly shoot faster, if accuracy is important. Especially with the common, high capacity magazines. I owned several 50 round mags when I owned an AR15. They exist for glocks too, but are far less common. Can you empty a Glock quickly? For sure but your shots are going to be all over the place. An AR15 has so little recoil when the stock is used that you can shoot a whole magazine with much less spread. There are many YouTube videos demonstrating this.

They not only shoot faster and many times more accurate. They are much more powerful and have to be reloaded less frequently. It’s power that’s important. Orange sized exit wounds.
blatham
 
  2  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 08:27 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXK6feeWAAAeIOc.jpg
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Lash
 
  -3  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 08:28 am
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/02/15/4-basic-questions-about-the-ar-15/

What are defining characteristics of the rifle?

The military’s M-16 was originally fully automatic, meaning it fired several rounds with each pull of the trigger. Its civilian counterpart, the AR-15, is semiautomatic — the user needs to pull the trigger to fire each shot.

The AR was designed for speedy reloading in combat situations, and it can fire dozens of rounds in seconds. The butt of the rifle, or the stock, has a large internal spring that absorbs the shock of each firing. The low recoil makes it easier to shoot and is more accurate than earlier military weapons. It can also be easily customized by adding scopes, lasers and more.
Glennn
 
  -1  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 08:34 am
@hightor,
This is funny. I've already stated that I certainly have a right to own a handgun for home self defense. You, however, refuse to answer--several times--when asked if you support a ban on handguns. So, do you support a ban on handguns?
Quote:
It's possible that the more devastating wounds caused by the higher velocity of rifle ammunition is sufficient reason to explain the preoccupation with assault-style weapons.

At least you understand enough to call them assault style weapons. But you still seem unable to acknowledge the fact that handguns are used more often than rifles during mass shootings.
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 08:37 am
@Lash,
Quote:
The AR-15 has come to carry connotations of heroism (a Remington ad said it gives “you the confidence and firepower to get the job done”), political resistance (tighter regulations could let government “subjugate Americans” and make them “live under tyranny,” a National Rifle Association executive said), fun (“killin’ zombies before it was cool,” reads another ad) and mass murder (high-capacity magazines have been used in more than half of mass shootings over four decades, according to several studies).

WP
hightor
 
  3  
Fri 2 Mar, 2018 08:39 am
@Glennn,
Quote:
But you still seem unable to acknowledge the fact that handguns are used to more often than rifles during mass shootings.

I wasn't disputing that — I suggested that while the dead would be just as dead, the wounds inflicted by the higher velocity projectiles would be more horrific.
 

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