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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

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In America, it's about need.

That should read

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In America, it's not about need.

Missed that in the haste of my reply.

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@McGentrix,

I was going to post that Atlantic piece. Curious what others here feel about it. I have my own thoughts, but gotta go to work now Mad

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

YOU will no doubt be very happy the day you bite one of these high velocity bullets, leaving a 3-inch wide tunnel of blood soup through your abdomen...

Is that a threat? I don't think the French Govt takes internet threats very well.

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@McGentrix,

McG wrote:

Why doesn't that "Dr" discuss .45 ACP wounds, or .44? .38 spl? .357 mag?

Oh give it up. The design of those pistol caliber bullets is nothing like the necked-down shells used in high-powered rifles and they don't even approach a similar velocity.

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@McGentrix,

Don't worry. I'm not going to kill you. At best it's a forecast.

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One takeaway from the Atlantic article — note that Mr. French doesn't require a military-styled weapon to protect his home.

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@hightor,

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at least Glennn is realistic enough to know that an assault-style weapon is unnecessary for this job (or any other application a civilian might choose to use a gun for.)

Actually, though I have what I need, it is only a financial consideration that keeps me from buying something like an AR-15. They are also used for hunting, just like any other rifle.

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I don't see how you can derive that from I wrote in response to Glennn.

So, just for future reference, do you want handguns to be banned as well as semi-automatic rifles?

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@hightor,

The guy basically says: it feels good to have a gun. I'm pretty sure it does, like it feels good to have a big dick.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

One takeaway from the Atlantic article — note that Mr. French doesn't require a military-styled weapon to protect his home.

I doubt 99% of "military-styled weapon" owners own them for home protection. A pistol or shotgun serves that purpose much better.

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@McGentrix,

Mr Jelly wrote:

[Is that a threat?

Only you could feel threatened by a Frenchman. Any excuse to fill up your trousers and tremble with fear.

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@revelette1,

I don't think Trump cares, but he's smart enough to sense that the wind is turning and that the people want change. As a smart populist, he is trying to exploit the gap between main street Americans and their Washington masters on the issue of gun control. A populist is always going to be harping on how elites have lost touch with the people, and this time he happens to be right.

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@Glennn,

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They are also used for hunting, just like any other rifle.

Sure they are. But with a plethora of fine hunting rifles on the market it's hard to see how restricting their sale would make a difference to anyone.

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So, just for future reference, do you want handguns to be banned as well as semi-automatic rifles?

That was Finn's allegation so he'd have to show you where I said anything like that.

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@McGentrix,

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I doubt 99% of "military-styled weapon" owners own them for home protection. A pistol or shotgun serves that purpose much better.

Good. Then we can do away with the "self-defense" excuse.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

While I don't believe that effective home security is dependent on owning a firearm, at least Glennn is realistic enough to know that an assault-style weapon is unnecessary for this job (or any other application a civilian might choose to use a gun for.)

Any weapon is unnecessary if you consider that the same job could be done with a different gun.

Non-assault weapons are also unnecessary when you consider that the same job can be done with an assault weapon.

hightor wrote:

The word "overkill" comes to mind.

Now you're just being silly. Having a pistol grip on a rifle does not make it more powerful.

hightor wrote:

There are more than enough choices of non-militarized weaponry available for home defense, hunting, and having fun plinking in the local gravel pit.

Putting a pistol grip on a gun does not make it militarized.

And there are also more than enough choices of guns with a pistol grip on them too, so no need for anyone to not use an assault weapon.

More to the point though. Whether people choose to use a gun with a pistol grip or without one, that is none of your business.

You don't get to choose for other people which guns they will use.

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@revelette1,

I'm entirely cynical about this man. I think it is quite likely that he was moved emotionally by seeing the wounded students (he remarked on the severity of the wounds and how that surprised him - because he's an ignorant and thoughtless doofus).

What happened in that meeting was theater which is his mode and is what he does well. But we know he will say X one day and -X the next day. He is absolutely untrustworthy. Distraction/noise is the only thing we can count on other than lying and corruption and continuing narcissism.

And his party will not let him move anywhere significant on this. Nor will the people at Fox and now, in danger of becoming a laughing stock and in danger of indictment or impeachment, he NEEDS Fox.

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@Olivier5,

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Michael Moore - @MMFlint

The NRA is a terrorist organization. The media should speak of the NRA in the same way they do ISIS. Total ISIS-inspired deaths in US = 79. Thanks to the NRA & the politicians they buy, we’ve had 1.2 MILLION American gun deaths since John Lennon was shot dead in NYC #NRAKillsKids

1:53 PM · 23 févr. 2018

Freedom Haters hate freedom. So what's new?

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@oralloy,

Get off your "pistol grip" fixation. Address bullet design and velocity.

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@Olivier5,

Yes.

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@izzythepush,

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It was "a low-flying, difficult-to-spot cruise missile with a nuclear payload with a practically unlimited range and an unpredictable flight path, which can bypass lines of interception and is invincible in the face of all existing and future systems of both missile defence and air defence".

A cruise missile with fuel capacity for that range is the same size as a bomber.

Except bombers are controlled by an intelligent human crew that can react to unexpected situations, and can reload and fly repeated missions.

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Trump wrote:

“You take Pulse nightclub, if you had one person in that room that could carry a gun and knew how to use it, it wouldn’t have happened, or certainly to the extent that it did.

N.Y.Times fact checker wrote:

There was, in fact, an off-duty police officer working in the nightclub at the time of the shooting. Officer Adam Gruler, a member of the Orlando Police Department since 2001, responded and exchanged fire with the gunman.

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