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@BillW,

Something's going on with Gates and lawyers today. Apparently one firm went on court record as representing him while a different firm reported they were representing him. I wonder if another bailed rapidly.

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@ehBeth,

Sad to say he was likely a coward. Shouldn't have had the job. Of course, that doesn't mean the job isn't a worthy one.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

It's politics...good and bad The important thing to realize is that only a rare few of them will hold to principle.

I think it is funny that the gun banners self-sabotage by devoting 100% of their energy to a cosmetic ban that will not achieve anything, is trivially easy for the NRA to defeat, and will be struck down by the courts if they do pass it.

If I thought they'd wise up and stop self-sabotaging I'd probably stop mocking them for it.

But I'm pretty sure that I can mock them for helping us defeat them and they will still go right ahead and self-sabotage anyway.

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@ehBeth,

Yeap, everything in that case is up in the air....

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@oralloy,

Oral,

The most fuckingly horrifying and heart-pulverizing truth is: vets are some of the most damaged people in our society.

Suicide or homicide, if they are receiving disability, they most likely should not have a firearm. I do think people who find themselves on the registry should be able to get a face to face interview with a cop or a mental health counselor who CAN remove them if they deem the person is not a risk to himself or others.

I don’t think we’ve forgotten where the term going postal came from.

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Asshat little Rubio "As tRump called him " will continue to accept money from the NRA because his agenda is more important than the lives of innocent men, women and children who are gunned down every year. He works for his wealthy benefactors and not for the citizens who he is supposed to represent.

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@jcboy,

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Asshat little Rubio "

Asshat little Rubio does the same song and dance routine as all of you do on subjects where you know full well that you can't defend and yet you do defend the war criminals and the liars who made up a total fantasy about 19 Arab hijackers on 9/11.

What is the difference between Asshat little Rubio's song and dance routine and yours?

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@Lash,

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I don’t think we’ve forgotten where the term going postal came from.

And postal workers have never had to slaughter people as part of their job.

I would hope that "vets are some of the most damaged people in our society" because that shows that some of them are normal people who are deeply troubled by the US war crimes and terrorism that they are required by their job to commit.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

The most fuckingly horrifying and heart-pulverizing truth is: vets are some of the most damaged people in our society.
Suicide or homicide, if they are receiving disability, they most likely should not have a firearm.

There are many disabled vets who are completely reliable with firearms.

Lash wrote:

I do think people who find themselves on the registry should be able to get a face to face interview with a cop or a mental health counselor who CAN remove them if they deem the person is not a risk to himself or others.

Rights don't work that way. People don't have to prove themselves fit. The government has to prove them unfit.

Lash wrote:

I don’t think we’ve forgotten where the term going postal came from.

The left would love to bar all mailmen from being able to have guns. It would probably come right after they banned guns from anyone who wears glasses.

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@oralloy,

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There are many disabled vets who are completely reliable with firearms.

You are obfuscating, as you always do, oralloy, when you aren't outright lying.

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@jcboy,

jcboy wrote:

Asshat little Rubio "As tRump called him " will continue to accept money from the NRA because his agenda is more important than the lives of innocent men, women and children who are gunned down every year.

No. Because he cares about our civil rights.

jcboy wrote:

He works for his wealthy benefactors and not for the citizens who he is supposed to represent.

No. He works for the people whose civil rights he is protecting.

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@camlok,

camlok wrote:

You are obfuscating, as you always do, oralloy, when you aren't outright lying.

Liar.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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And yet you've chosen to forget your comment that started this "debate"

Hardly a debate. I made a comment about the study that nimh quoted:

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In 2015, when researchers Anne Case and Angus Deaton discovered that death rates had been rising dramatically since 1999 among middle-aged white Americans, they weren't sure why people were dying younger, reversing decades of longer life expectancy. Now the husband-and-wife economists say they have a better understanding of what's causing these "deaths of despair" by suicide, drugs and alcohol.

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@oralloy,

The Post Offices were filled, in the 80s and forward, with former vets because vets, rightfully so, were hired for this particular federal job before anyone else.

The post office violence was perpetrated by those vets.

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@BillW,

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What we learned since 4pm in Manafort/Gates case:
-2nd federal indictment—Bank fraud and other charges against both
-Gates plea bargaining still happening today
-Tom Green now official atty for Gates
-That new charge in DC yesterday=still a mystery

less than 10 minutes ago

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@Lash,

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The Post Offices were filled, in the 80s and forward, with former vets because vets, rightfully so, were hired for this particular federal job before anyone else.

The post office violence was perpetrated by those vets.

I didn't know that, Lash. Verrrrrrry interesting.

Interesting what one can learn when people are honest.

Vets don't deserve a job ahead of any other citizens.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

The Post Offices were filled, in the 80s and forward, with former vets because vets, rightfully so, were hired for this particular federal job before anyone else.

The post office violence was perpetrated by those vets.

O.o

Of course you have a link for that, right?

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@McGentrix,

You don’t remember that?

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Is America a ‘Nation of Immigrants’? Immigration Agency Says No

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The director of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services informed employees in a letter on Thursday that its mission statement had been revised to “guide us in the years ahead.” Gone was the phrase that described the agency as securing “America’s promise as a nation of immigrants.”

The original mission statement said: “U.S.C.I.S. secures America’s promise as a nation of immigrants by providing accurate and useful information to our customers, granting immigration and citizenship benefits, promoting an awareness and understanding of citizenship, and ensuring the integrity of our immigration system.”

The new version says: “U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services administers the nation’s lawful immigration system, safeguarding its integrity and promise by efficiently and fairly adjudicating requests for immigration benefits while protecting Americans, securing the homeland and honoring our values.”
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Mr. Cissna did not mention in his letter that he had removed the phrase “nation of immigrants,” which was popularized by a book by President John F. Kennedy and is frequently used to convey America’s multiculturalism.
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In his letter to his staff, Mr. Cissna wrote, “We are also responsible for ensuring that those who naturalize are dedicated to this country, share our values, assimilate into our communities, and understand their responsibility to help preserve our freedom and liberty.”

Published posthumously, Kennedy’s “A Nation of Immigrants” highlighted the contribution of immigrants when the country was engulfed in a debate over the direction of its immigration policy.

The phrase appears at least as far back as 1874, in an editorial published in The Daily State Journal of Alexandria, which praised a bill passed by the Virginia Senate appropriating $15,000 to encourage European immigration. “We are a nation of immigrants and immigrants’ children,” it said.

Immigrant advocates today invoke the phrase to remind the country that most Americans have an ancestor who was once a newcomer to the United States.

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@Lash,

Don't worry about it, he never has any links for any of his ridiculous claims.

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