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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 10:03 am
And so as to cheer everyone up
Quote:
...broken down by party ID, it turns out Trump is more popular among Republicans than W. or Poppy Bush, Gerald Ford, or even the beloved Ike. At 7.20, he trails only the Gipper (8.03) in the esteem of his fellow partisans. To put that in context, Trump’s rating among Republicans is higher than JFK’s (7.09) among Democrats.

Within his own party, Trump’s actually up there in that territory where you’d expect people to start naming babies after him. You never know with a strange and erratic man like him what the future will hold; he seems entirely capable of the kind of self-destruction that brought down Nixon. But for now, the idea that he is going to be vulnerable to a primary challenge in 2020 or that the GOP will return to its pre-Trump legacy after he’s gone seems highly improbable. They love this guy.
NYMag

This is blind and irrational tribalism driven by inculcated hatreds and fears. Liberalism is the product of Satan.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 10:18 am
https://www.axios.com/mueller-probe-latest-indictment-alex-van-der-zwaan-1c2b0528-d601-4c17-99bc-c660725597a9.html

Quote:
Special Counsel Robert Mueller has charged Dutch lawyer Alex Van Der Zwaan with making false statements to FBI investigators. Van Der Zwaan, who was officially charged on Feb. 16 in a federal court in Washington, has a plea hearing scheduled for Tuesday at 2:30 p.m. EST.

The details: According to the indictment, the false statements came when Mueller's team probed Van Der Zwaan's work for the Ukraine Ministry of Justice, and include lying about his interactions with Rick Gates, the Paul Manafort associate and former Trump campaign adviser who was indicted by Mueller last fall.

Van Der Zwaan was charged with lying to investigators about conversations related to a report his law firm prepared on the trial of a Ukrainian politician, Yulia Tymoshenko.

The lawyer also reportedly lied about his talks with someone else, named "Person A” in the indictment.

Prosecutors said Van Der Zwaan also deleted and failed to turn over emails requested by the special counsel and a law firm.

Timing: Mueller indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for violating criminal laws to interfere with the 2016 U.S. election on Friday. He also struck a plea deal that same day with Richard Pinedo, who was charged with identity fraud.

Why it matters: As Axios' Mike Allen wrote this morning, Mueller's moving fast. "The indictment is a sneak peek at the level of sweep and color we can expect in a final report, and is a mammoth accomplishment just nine months after Mueller was appointed."


short indictment at the link

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who is Person A ?
ehBeth
 
  3  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 10:30 am
Quote:

@EdKrassen
1h1 hour ago
BREAKING: The NRA loses a Supreme Court case in California. The Court says that California may continue to use gun transfer fees to help fund efforts to track down people who acquire guns illegally.

Yes, the NRA was against California using money to stop illegal gun sales!



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-20/nra-rejected-by-supreme-court-on-california-s-gun-transfer-fees


snip

Quote:
In 2011 California enacted a law that said the money could also be used for the state’s Armed Prohibited Persons System. That program targets an estimated 18,000 people who acquired their weapons legally but then became ineligible to own a gun because of a criminal conviction, domestic-violence order, or mental-health condition.

In 2013 the California legislature appropriated $24 million derived from transfer fees to pay for the APPS program.

A San Francisco-based federal appeals court upheld the funding system, saying the government was pursuing “an important public safety interest.”

“There is a reasonable fit between the government’s interest and the means it has chosen to achieve those ends,” Judge Sidney Thomas wrote for the three-judge panel.

The NRA and its allies said the state was putting an unconstitutional burden on Second Amendment rights.

“The government may not impose excessive monetary exactions on constitutionally protected activity and divert that money to fund other government operations,” the group argued in the appeal.

The case is Bauer v. Becerra, 17-719.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 10:32 am
@ehBeth,
Quote:
Brian Krassenstein 🐬‏
@krassenstein

Just thought I'd help you piece some of this together...

Alex Van Der Zwaan, the latest person to be indicted in Mueller's probe, worked for a large law firm called Skadden.

Do you know who else worked for that law firm?

Manafort's daughter, Andrea Manafort Shand,
BillW
 
  3  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 11:26 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

I'm re-reading an older book on the rise of the new right, Thunder On The Right (highly recommended) and find that Roger Stone worked under Haldeman and Mitchell in Nixon's dirty tricks unit. Doesn't that just figure.

Remember, Nixon is tattooed on his back! Karl Rove would be getting his feet wet in Nixon's 1972 campaign when he would be 1st teaming up with Lee Atwater. Atwater became a senior partner at the political consulting firm of Black, Manafort, Stone and Kelly the day after the 1984 presidential election.
hightor
 
  5  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 12:52 pm
Not strictly within the nominal subject of this thread, but...

I really recommend this article from the N.Y. Review on the U.S. government's role in establishing segregated neighborhoods.

Quote:
Among the government’s tools for imposing segregation, few were as powerful as public housing, which both reinforced color lines and drew them where they hadn’t existed. Public housing typically conjures high-rise black ghettos. But it started during the Depression mostly to help working-class whites. The first agency to build public housing was the Public Works Administration, which was launched in 1933. It happened to be run by a racial liberal, Harold Ickes, a former head of the Chicago NAACP. Yet Ickes created a “neighborhood composition rule”—projects in white areas could only house whites, and projects in black neighborhoods could only house blacks.

Perhaps he was trying to appease southerners in the New Deal coalition. Or perhaps segregation was the only way to get blacks housed at all. But across the country officials used the program to raze integrated neighborhoods and build projects that kept the races apart. The first project, Techwood Homes in Atlanta, destroyed a racially mixed neighborhood of 1,600 families and built 600 apartments for whites. A Miami civic leader said the city used public housing to “remove the entire colored population” from areas it wanted white. The same thing happened across the Northeast and Midwest.


This shameful history is similar to Reconstruction after the Civil War in the opportunities for racial integration which were squandered — by Democrats and Republicans alike.

When government Drew the Color Line
BillW
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 01:00 pm
@hightor,
........and, to this day, tRump is still abiding by these edicts. So, yes, it does conform to the "nominal subject of this thread".
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camlok
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 01:12 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
Special Counsel Robert Mueller has charged Dutch lawyer Alex Van Der Zwaan with making false statements to FBI investigators.


This is so nutty, so absolutely crazy. The biggest liars on the planet attempt to point fingers and charge others. Amazing!
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 03:19 pm
@ehBeth,
and
he pleads guilty

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/20/mueller-charges-attorney-with-lying-to-the-fbi.html

Quote:
Attorney pleads guilty in Mueller probe to lying to FBI over contacts with former Trump campaign official

Alex van der Zwaan admitted making false or misleading statements regarding email communications with Richard Gates.

His former employer, the renowned law firm Skadden, Arps, says they are cooperating with authorities.

Van der Zwaan is married to the daughter of German Khan, a Russian oligarch who is suing research firm Fusion GPS over a dossier alleging salacious and unverified ties between President Donald Trump and Russia.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 03:20 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Quote:
Alex Van Der Zwaan, the latest person to be indicted in Mueller's probe, worked for a large law firm called Skadden.

Do you know who else worked for that law firm?

Manafort's daughter, Andrea Manafort Shand,



from the link in my post just above

Quote:
Skadden, in a statement to CNBC, said, "The firm terminated its employment of Alex van der Zwaan in 2017 and has been cooperating with authorities in connection with this matter."
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 03:36 pm
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/20/trump-signs-a-memo-telling-attorney-general-sessions-to-ban-devices-that-turn-weapons-into-machine-guns.html
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Leadfoot
 
  0  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 04:25 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Sorry, my post wasn't clear. It is not my opinion that mental illness is causal here and even if it were, I see no way one would address it.

But I'm curious as to why you think we're in a mental health crisis (if you do).

Odd, your prior post seemed pretty clear.

I don't know if 'crisis' is the right term but yes, I think mental health is at the root of the problems I mentioned. And the deaths are only the tip of the iceberg even thought I think the suicide rate is under estimated at 40,000 a year. Do you really think all those opioid overdoses are accidental? Same goes for the strange increase in U.S. auto accident deaths after decades of decline. There seems to be an odd increase of 'single car accidents'.

As to why, I have only guesses, nothing I could defend factually. I just find it interesting that it is a growing problem. I don't see a way to address it either, hence, I'm pretty pessimistic about fixing it (as you said).

The politicians and mental health 'professionals' now calling for more money for mental health to fix it just makes me laugh.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 04:46 pm
@blatham,
Wow!

You really are as empathetic as you want everyone to be.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 04:47 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Not even Israel wants to become that corrupt.


"Not even Israel?"

WTF?
blatham
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 04:56 pm
@BillW,
Thanks Bill. I only knew some of this story.
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blatham
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 05:23 pm
@Leadfoot,
I don't think I'm with you on this. I don't see any good reason to presume that there is some change in culture caused by an increase in mental health issues. If that were the case, it would show up across society and would surely have caught the attention of mental health professionals and those responsible for monitoring health issues in the country.

The opioid crisis (and it is a crisis) is understood to be a consequence of increases in use/abuse of prescription pain relievers, heroin and particularly the arrival of fentanyl into the drug scene. If we lowered the legal drinking age to 14, there would be more alcoholism and more deaths but mental illness wouldn't be the cause.

I've not heard of an increase in single vehicle accidents but if there is one, the more likely cause would be cell phones and distraction.

As regards dealing with mental illness curatively... that's a big subject. But even if we don't know nearly enough about it or how to correct it, it is not the case that no mental health therapies actually work. So then it is a matter of whether we as a community decide it is proper to do what we can to help those in this sort of trouble.
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 05:39 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
"Not even Israel?"
WTF?

Not quite sure of your confusion. First, it was a joke. But if you are referring to a statement that Israel might be notably corrupt, there's history here and it is not just Likud. Olmert just got out of jail (bribery, breach of trust). Netanyahu - See Here and before them, Aiel Sharon and at least one son were suspected of taking bribes though Ariel's charges were never laid (not sure about his son). There's much more below the PM level as well.
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blatham
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 05:43 pm
And in today's edition of Voices From The Right
Quote:
Trump’s conduct is inexplicable, unless he’s in Putin’s pocket
Jennifer Rubin
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blatham
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 05:48 pm
And abroad, approval of the US is collapsing in the friendliest nations.

Quote:
After Donald Trump's election, U.S. allies and adversaries scrambled to evaluate whether his unorthodox rhetoric foreshadowed substantive shifts in U.S. foreign policy. The "America First" agenda raised questions about his administration's willingness to defend and promote the liberal world order that the U.S. had instrumentally shaped since 1945.

Reflecting this uncertainty, the median approval rating of U.S. leadership fell from 48% in 2016 to a record-low 30% in 2017. To understand where the sharpest declines occurred, we examined salient country-level attributes often associated with key U.S. strategic partners. The most significant declines in U.S. leadership approval occurred in freer nations connected to the U.S. through a dense network of political and economic ties.
link here
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RABEL222
 
  2  
Tue 20 Feb, 2018 05:52 pm
@blatham,
The problem with mental health help is finding it. Try calling for help for your 16 year old. Your will quickly find what being run in a circle means. One organization will refer you too another until you learn that you are involved in a circle jerk.
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