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Lash
 
  1  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 01:08 pm
I’d like to know how a kid buys a weapon like this.

I’m now hearing on the teev of a connection to a white supremacist group.
Lash
 
  0  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 01:09 pm
@blatham,
Quid pro quo, schoolmaster.

Let’s hear you detail Democrat corruption and errors.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 01:12 pm
@Lash,
For the most part Walter has remained on topic, any diversion has been pertinent and illuminating. Your monomania about Mrs Clinton is something else entirely. She lost the election, she will never be president, it's time to move on with your life, because you're starting to sound unhinged.

The only reason you're doing it is so you don't have to deal with the total pig's breakfast Trump is making of the presidency.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 01:19 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I’d like to know how a kid buys a weapon like this.


All he has to do is move to America. It couldn't happen over here. The last school shooting in Britain was Dunblane in 1996.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre

You've had 18 already this year and we're only half way through February. Columbine and Sandy Hook weren't aberrations, they were the beginning of a trend. You won't stop it with improved background checks or mental health legislation, you'll stop it by taking the guns off the street.
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ehBeth
 
  4  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 01:27 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
No one is blaming Trump for the shootings. The reason he, and the GOP, are being criticized is not because they're to blame for the shootings that occur but because, beholden to the NRA as they are, they continue to block any attempts at dealing with the firearms side of the problem.


I think there's more to it than that - and I do blame #45 for his part in it.

Just about a year ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

Quote:
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.

The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had the rule fully taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added about 75,000 names to that database.

President Barack Obama recommended the now-nullified regulation in a 2013 memo following the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which left 20 first graders and six others dead. The measure sought to block some people with severe mental health problems from buying guns.


oralloy was a poster who was very vocal about his objection to President Obama's regulation - I suspected at the time that there was a personal reason for the objection
ehBeth
 
  3  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 01:29 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Quote:
Why didn’t Obama do something?

Because he was not issued dictatorial powers.
Quote:
Why do you expect Republicans to do more than you expected of Obama?

Because they have a majority in both houses of Congress and control the executive branch of the government. There have been thirty attempted/successful mass shootings since New Year's so, being in control, they could actually address some aspects of the problem. Who else is going to do it?


excellent question
Lash
 
  1  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 01:40 pm
@ehBeth,
Some progress should have been made during the eight year tenure of a dedicated gun control guy.

He failed in this respect.

I don’t expect Republicans to do better, but they aren’t expected by anyone to do better.
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izzythepush
 
  2  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 01:44 pm
News outside America. This shows how important a free independent press is, for all Zuma's denials and cries of fake news the free press doggedly pursued him, and this is the result. Bravo.

Quote:
Cyril Ramaphosa has become South Africa's president a day after embattled leader Jacob Zuma resigned.

He was the only candidate nominated by parliament, which is dominated by his African National Congress. MPs broke into song at the announcement.

In his first presidential speech, Mr Ramaphosa, 65, said he would tackle the corruption which allegedly became widespread under Mr Zuma.

The ANC had told Mr Zuma to step down or face a vote of no-confidence.

Mr Zuma faces numerous corruption allegations but denies any wrongdoing.

One allegation is that he allowed the wealthy Gupta family, who whom he has personal ties, to wield influence over policy, in an example of "state capture".

An arrest warrant has been issued for Ajay Gupta, one of the three most prominent Gupta brothers, officials said on Thursday.

This follows a raid by the Hawks, an elite police unit, on their home on Wednesday. The family has denied corruption allegations.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-43070771
camlok
 
  -1  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:02 pm
@blatham,
You can't be so gullible, Bernie, that you don't know the Dem party is every bit as evil as the Repugs. Oh, wait a minute, you believe the USGOCT.

Carry on in your delusions.
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camlok
 
  -2  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:06 pm
@revelette1,
Quote:
Agreed, better yet, a rant on Hillary.


Why would anyone want to discuss/talk about such an evil, hypocritical, two faced, lying "woman"?

You folks rant too, rev, and your ranter in chief is a specialist in ranting, mixed with the occasional bit of humor.
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camlok
 
  1  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:10 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
President Donald Trump quietly signed a bill into law Tuesday rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illnesses to purchase a gun.


It was self protection, that's why Trump did it.
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camlok
 
  -1  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:13 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Izzy: For the most part Walter has remained on topic


Izzy: News outside America.

Rolling Eyes

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blatham
 
  1  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:16 pm
@Lash,
How did we know you'd take that dodge. You really never disappoint. Regardless of what anyone else might believe about your sincerity, I think you are a liar.
blatham
 
  3  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:19 pm
Quote:
Former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus has given a remarkable interview published by Vanity Fair that is getting some attention because it confirms once again that the most powerful person in the world is a raging, abusive megalomaniac. We learn that President Trump erupted at his staff over accurate media coverage of his paltry inaugural crowd; that officials competed for the title of most obsequious suck-up to Trump; and that Trump once commanded Priebus to swat a fly.

But buried in the piece is something potentially more important: revelations that shed light on Trump’s state of mind at key moments throughout his efforts to hamstring the investigation into Trump campaign collusion with Russian efforts to sabotage our democracy...
WP
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camlok
 
  -1  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:21 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
How did we know you'd take that dodge.


Bernie, Bernie, Bernie!! Dodges are you folks' middle names. You are being a rank hypocrite.

Quote:
You really never disappoint. Regardless of what anyone else might believe about your sincerity, I think you are a liar.


You have long been lying to yourself, as have all those who worship at your feet. Lies are easy things to prove. Would you like me to give you many examples?
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thack45
 
  2  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:33 pm
@ehBeth,
And of course the Donald said last year that mass shootings are not a gun problem, but a mental health problem.

Quote:
“I think that mental health is your problem here,” Mr. Trump told reporters at a news conference in Japan, the first stop on his 12-day overseas trip. Based on preliminary reports, the gunman in Sutherland Springs, Tex., was a “very deranged individual,” he said. “We have a lot of mental health problems in our country, as do other countries.”

“But this isn’t a guns situation,” Mr. Trump added. “I mean, we could go into it, but it’s a little bit soon to go into it. But fortunately, somebody else had a gun that was shooting in the opposite direction, otherwise it would have been — as bad it was — it would have been much worse. But this is a mental health problem at the highest level. It’s a very, very sad event.”

NYT

And he's standing by that today.
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:34 pm
Quote:
Joan Walsh‏Verified account
@joanwalsh
I want to remind everyone about Virginia 2017: In the 13 races where pro-gun control Democrats squared off against NRA Republicans, Democrats won 12. Top of the ticket -- Northam, Fairfax and Herring -- had F NRA ratings, and all won. It's not hopeless.
8:55 PM - 14 Feb 2018
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blatham
 
  3  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:42 pm
Quote:
A Florida white supremacist group says that Nikolas Cruz, who has been charged with murdering 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, was a member. The group, known as Republic of Florida, told the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), that Cruz “participated in one or more ROF training exercises in the Tallahassee area, carpooling with other ROF members from south Florida.”
TP
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:46 pm
Got an armed guard at your high school to prevent mass shootings? Not good enough.
Quote:
But it appears there were armed guards at the school. Reuters reports that “a law enforcement officer is assigned to every school in the Broward County district.” According to USA Today, “schools in the Broward district typically have one or two school resource officers, typically Broward County Sheriff deputies who are armed and always on campus.”

For Fox News personalities, however, that’s not enough. On the Wednesday edition of his show, Sean Hannity argued that while it appears there was a guard at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, there should’ve been more.
TP
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blatham
 
  2  
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 02:52 pm
In surprising news from all over
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Gun dysfunction is a Republican problem, not a “Washington” problem
MM

Anyone who makes the claim that the two parties are equally culpable in American gun insanity are idiots or they are lying. Possibly both.
 

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