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blatham
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 08:05 am
Does it matter if this twat is consciously lying or a lunatic who believes this stuff?
Quote:
In a remarkable interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity, House Intelligence Chair Devin Nunes on Monday night claimed it was the Hillary Clinton campaign that had been the real Russian collaborator, and had effectively weaponized the FBI against Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential election.

“It’s what happens in banana republics. It’s scary,” said the California Republican, who claimed that the controversial memo released by the House intel panel last week on a party-line vote showed a “clear link” between the Clinton campaign and Russia.

“There's clear evidence of collusion—that the Democratic Party and the Hillary Clinton campaign colluded with the Russians,” Nunes said, using his appearance on prime time’s top-rated cable-news show to decry the supposed “crickets from the media” about the biggest political story of the past week.
DB
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blatham
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 08:16 am
Fox News - making stupid people even stupider, every day.
Quote:
Aaron Rupar‏Verified account
@atrupar
Fox & Friends' @ainsleyearhardt suggests FISA judges are suspect because 3 of 11 of them were appointed by Bill Clinton and "all it takes is one judge to make the decision"

FISA judges are appointed by Chief Justice Roberts.
h/t Nancy LeTourneau
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 08:19 am
@Lash,
Obviously, some words mean something different in British and Amercan English, like "Hands Off From Our NHS", or "It's our NHS" or "Save Our NHS" or ...
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layman
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 09:29 am
Me and my homey's have patented a little plan that will save cities all over the country, cities like Philadelphia, Baltimore, Saint Louis, and them, BILLIONS of dollars every year on money they spend to incarcerate the homeless and othewise rout the bums from their town.

It's pretty simple, actually, but we aint sellin it to nobody until they agree to give us a big-ass cut of the savings. It's called the internal deportation plan, see?

What it is is that social workers will give every bum on the street a free one-way Greyhound ticket to San Francisco. Once they're on that gravy train they aint NEVER comin back.

Don't even think about trying to steal it. Like I done said, we got us a patent already.
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Lash
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 10:08 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Here are more words:

In the opening ceremony for the 2012 London Olympics, the NHS was celebrated with a dance sequence with nurses and patients. In the lead-up to the Brexit vote in June 2016, the pro-Brexit side famously said that leaving the bloc could mean that an extra 350 million pounds ($467 million) a week could be spent on health care.


“We send the EU £350m a week — let’s fund our NHS instead,” was the slogan plastered on the side of a red campaign bus.

Few things unite the British like an outsider complaining about their universal health care. But within the U.K., there is widespread concern about the financial health of the NHS. Britain’s aging population, the rising cost of new technology and years of austerity have contributed to notable pressures on the system.

Britain has also had, once again, a terrible winter flu season, and hospitals nationwide are struggling to cope with the spikes in demand.

“There is widespread concern that austerity we’ve seen in the last seven years has basically put the NHS on its knees. In an attempt to drive efficiency in the system, to deliver the same for less money, we are now seeing poorer quality of care,” said Harry Quilter-Pinner, a research fellow at the Institute for Public Policy Research, a London-based think tank.

“Waiting times for elective treatments, for cancer, for example, have gone up. Waiting times for GPs have gone up. Hospitals are missing targets for how long you wait at A&E; [accident and emergency],” he said.

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This from a headline also trying to make a lie of the facts inside the article.
You don’t have to want to trade it for privatized care to say it’s currently not serving the people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/05/trump-thought-the-british-were-protesting-against-their-health-service-they-werent/

Semantics, so desperate.
oralloy
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 10:37 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
oralloy wrote:
maporsche wrote:
why you support UHC

I'm curious, do market-based systems (like what Germany has) count as universal health care?

Describe said system.

There is a public marketplace where highly regulated insurers compete for customers. All a customer has to do is go to the marketplace and pick whichever insurer looks best to them.
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ehBeth
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 10:54 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
I wonder if Trump will allow the release of the democrat memo and if not what his excuse could possibly be?


apparently he doesn't have to

they can read it in
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blatham
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 10:57 am
Quote:
In his first interview since House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes’ (R-CA) anti-FBI memo was declassified and released last week, former President Trump campaign aide Carter Page told Fox News Monday that the document in question was “worse than I could’ve possibly imagined.”

“When I first saw it, it was, you know, there were a lot of details that keep dripping out. It sounded really bad,” he said during an interview with Fox News’ Laura Ingraham Monday night. “When I actually saw it, it was even worse than I could’ve possibly imagined.”
TPM

I'm sure he's telling the truth. And I'm sure Ingraham did some real journalism there.
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ehBeth
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 10:59 am
@blatham,
It puzzles me when people give them oxygen here.
oralloy
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 11:03 am
@layman,
Quote:
US Air Force B-52 drops record number of precision bombs on Taliban in last day

Nice. But what I really want for Christmas is for us to get these guys:

Hamza bin Laden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamza_bin_Laden

Ayman al-Zawahiri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri

Saif al-Adel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saif_al-Adel

Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_Ahmed_Abdullah

Ezedin Abdel Aziz Khalil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezedin_Abdel_Aziz_Khalil

Ali Sayyid Muhamed Mustafa al-Bakri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Sayyid_Muhamed_Mustafa_al-Bakri
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blatham
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 11:09 am
Take a gander at this
Quote:
Rep. Tom Garrett (R-VA) on Monday compared special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election to the right-wing conspiracy theory that former President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

“Imagine that there were a partly political-funded investigation into President Obama’s place of birth, right? Because this Russia investigation is essentially birtherism,” Garrett said during an interview with CNN’s Brianna Keilar.

...“Imagine if political money, $9 million from the Clinton campaign and the DNC to Fusion GPS, were levied to do an investigation against President Obama as to his origin of birth. That would be ridiculous and un-American, and this is too.”
Benen

Brazen or truly epic stupidity? Who the hell knows. But either this man has been made very stupid by others or he's knowingly trying to make others very stupid. There are no other options.
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blatham
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 11:13 am
@ehBeth,
With those two, I myself sometimes do. It's a decision I've made based on my past history with them but I can accept that there's some inconsistency with my normal behavior.
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thack45
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 11:15 am
Trump: ‘Disgraceful’ that man illegally in US killed athlete
Quote:
Trump tweeted Tuesday: “So disgraceful that a person illegally in our country killed @Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson. This is just one of many such preventable tragedies. We must get the Dems to get tough on the Border, and with illegal immigration, FAST!”
It's not disgraceful that a drunk driver killed a man early Sunday morning.* It's not disgraceful that thousands and thousands will die this year in drunk driving crashes (an estimated 10,497 died in 2016). And it's certainly not disgraceful that Trump is using this story to push his immigration agenda. The only thing that is disgraceful, of course, is that an illegal immigrant killed a US citizen. I've said it before, the tacit message is that only legal residents of this fine nation may kill each other. Except in Chicago, because Obama.

Quote:
Trump added in a second tweet: “My prayers and best wishes are with the family of Edwin Jackson, a wonderful young man whose life was so senselessly taken. @Colts.”
Nice save, ya turnip Rolling Eyes


* Trump neglected to mention – either because it wasn't politically convenient for him, or more likely because it wasn't politically convenient for state media to focus on, so he simply isn't aware – that a second person died in the crash, the NFL player's Uber diver, 54 year-old Jeffrey Monroe. This is also not disgraceful.
blatham
 
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Tue 6 Feb, 2018 11:20 am
As someone on twitter wrote, "Nunes not bothering to read footnotes is the most Nunes thing ever"
Quote:
For months, the line from Trump World and its allies was that the federal investigation of the Russia scandal was initiated by Christopher Steele's dossier. Last week, at the president's behest, Republicans unveiled their "Nunes memo," which showed that the GOP's favorite talking point isn't true.

Never mind that, Republicans said. It was time to move on to their next big talking point: when the FBI sought court warrants to scrutinize one of Donald Trump's foreign policy advisers -- a suspected agent of a foreign adversary -- federal law enforcement failed to notify the court of the political origins of the Steele dossier.

The allegation wasn't a peripheral point: this was the cornerstone of the entire Republican memo. By failing to notify judges of the dossier' political context, GOP officials insisted, federal law enforcement committed a grave abuse.

Yesterday, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), who's responsible for the creation of the Nunes memo, conceded that the point his document explicitly attempted to prove, isn't quite right.

Quote:
Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau's actions.


According to Nunes, the FBI may have notified the court, but the information was in a footnote, so it doesn't really count.
Benen
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