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glitterbag
 
  3  
Sun 4 Feb, 2018 11:10 pm
@layman,
Can you give me even a hint as to why such a moronic exercise would interest anyone? Well, anybody other than you and your fellow mental giants.
layman
 
  -3  
Sun 4 Feb, 2018 11:17 pm
@layman,
No amount of either reason or so-called "fact" would move these types in the least. They could never agree on any one set of "facts." Any claim of fact that they didn't like would simply be dismissed as false, or otherwise summarily disposed of.

Does that mean that reason and fact are irrelevant?

Well, yes and no.

To these types, yes, totally irrelevant.

To open-minded, reasonable people without an emotional need at stake, then maybe not.
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layman
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Feb, 2018 11:18 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Can you give me even a hint as to why such a moronic exercise would interest anyone? Well, anybody other than you and your fellow mental giants.


No, Bag, sorry, I couldn't do that. No amount of "hints" could ever help someone who doesn't know a clue when it goes upside their sorry head.
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Feb, 2018 11:31 pm
David Hume wrote:
“Reason is, and ought only to be, the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them.”


I especially like the "and ought only to be" part there, know what I'm sayin?
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Feb, 2018 11:39 pm
@layman,
Hume had some interesting insights. I think he arrived at this one by hangin out in an A2K thread for a spell, ya know?

David Hume wrote:
“Disputes between men pertinaciously obstinate in their principles are the most irksome. The same blind adherence to their own arguments is to be expected in both; the same contempt of their antagonists; and the same passionate vehemence in enforcing sophistry and falsehood.

And, as reasoning is not the source from whence either disputant derives his tenets, it is in vain to expect that any logic, which speaks not to the affections, will ever engage him to embrace sounder principles.”
layman
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Feb, 2018 11:46 pm
@layman,
Quote:
men pertinaciously obstinate in their principles


A polite euphemism for these types might be "earnest men."

We gotta shitload of such earnest men here on A2K, eh? So earnest that they could never sense a joke of any kind.
Builder
 
  0  
Sun 4 Feb, 2018 11:51 pm
@layman,
Quote:
So earnest that they could never sense a joke of any kind.


They definitely remind me of bots, alrighty. Even some of the wimmenfolk.
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glitterbag
 
  2  
Sun 4 Feb, 2018 11:53 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:

glitterbag wrote:

Can you give me even a hint as to why such a moronic exercise would interest anyone? Well, anybody other than you and your fellow mental giants.


No, Bag, sorry, I couldn't do that. No amount of "hints" could ever help someone who doesn't know a clue when it goes upside their sorry head.


What do you know, I never suspected you as being terribly self aware.
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layman
 
  0  
Sun 4 Feb, 2018 11:56 pm
Max Stirner wrote:
“ What is supposed to be my concern? First and foremost, the Good Cause, then God's cause, the cause of mankind, of truth, of freedom, of humanity, of justice; further, the cause of my people, my prince, my fatherland; finally, even the cause of Mind, and a thousand other causes.

“All Things Are Nothing To Me. My concern is neither the divine nor the human, not the true, good, just, free, etc., but solely what is mine, and it is not a general one, but is -- unique, as I am unique. Nothing is more to me than myself!”


Heh. “All Things Are Nothing To Me."

If ya aint heard of Max, he's an old-ass Kraut whose name basically translates as "Max Headroom." Marx and Engels wrote hundreds of pages trying to refute him, but couldn't.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 12:13 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
If ya aint heard of Max, he's an old-ass Kraut whose name basically translates as "Max Headroom."
His name actually was Johann Kaspar Schmidt.

"Headroom" would be Kopfraum in German. A "Stirner" is someone, who stands up to something (derived from Stirn bieten.
layman
 
  -2  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 12:15 am
@layman,
layman wrote:

If ya aint heard of Max, he's an old-ass Kraut whose name basically translates as "Max Headroom." Marx and Engels wrote hundreds of pages trying to refute him, but couldn't.


See, sez here:

Quote:
Later, Marx and Engels wrote a major criticism of Stirner's work. The number of pages Marx and Engels devote to attacking Stirner in (the unexpurgated text of) The German Ideology, in which they derided him as "Sankt Max" (Saint Max), exceeds the total of Stirner's written works.

As Isaiah Berlin has described it, Stirner "is pursued through five hundred pages of heavy-handed mockery and insult".

Marx's lengthy, ferocious polemic against Stirner has since been considered an important turning point in Marx's intellectual development from idealism to materialism. It has been argued that historical materialism was Marx's method of reconciling communism with a Stirnerite rejection of morality.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Stirner
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layman
 
  -2  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 12:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

layman wrote:
If ya aint heard of Max, he's an old-ass Kraut whose name basically translates as "Max Headroom."
His name actually was Johann Kaspar Schmidt.

"Headroom" would be Kopfraum in German. A "Stirner" is someone, who stands up to something (derived from Stirn bieten.


Well, Walt, ya see, you got your version of Kraut lingo, and I got mine. Fair enough, aint it?
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 12:52 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
Well, Walt, ya see, you got your version of Kraut lingo, and I got mine. Fair enough, aint it?
Klar. Sicherlich hast Du mehr Erfahrung in der deutschen Sprache als ich. Ich habe auch nicht Germanistik studiert.
layman
 
  -2  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 12:55 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

layman wrote:
Well, Walt, ya see, you got your version of Kraut lingo, and I got mine. Fair enough, aint it?
Klar. Sicherlich hast Du mehr Erfahrung in der deutschen Sprache als ich. Ich habe auch nicht Germanistik studiert.


Your Kraut aint none too good, eh, Walt, but I gather that you're admitting that ya aint never studied it, so that figures, sho nuff: "Ich habe auch nicht Germanistik studiert.."
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layman
 
  -2  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 12:57 am
glitterbag wrote:

If no one laughs it's not a joke


That's straight-up solipsism, sho nuff. Hard-core, true-believin, stone-cold cheese-eatin.
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layman
 
  -3  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 01:07 am
Anyways, back to good ole Max Headroom for a spell, eh?

Max Headroom wrote:
Have you philosophers really no clue that you have been beaten with your own weapons? Only one clue. What can your common sense reply when I dissolve dialectically what you have merely posited dialectically? You have showed me with what kind of ‘volubility’ one can turn everything to nothing and nothing to everything, black into white and white into black. What do you have against me, when I return to you your pure art?
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 01:07 am
Democratic senators: Trump lacks ‘legal authority’ for preemptive, ‘bloody nose’ strike on North Korea
Quote:
A group of Democratic senators is warning President Trump that he lacks the “legal authority” to carry out a preemptive strike on North Korea, amid questions over whether the White House is considering a risky “bloody nose” attack.

In a letter to be sent to Trump on Monday, the 18 senators said they are “deeply concerned about the potential consequences of a preemptive military strike on North Korea and the risks of miscalculation and retaliation.” They emphasized that it is an “enormous gamble” to believe that such an action, even if it were modest in scope, would not provoke an escalation from dictator Kim Jong Un.

“Moreover, without congressional authority, a preventative or preemptive U.S. military strike would lack either a constitutional basis or legal authority,” the senators wrote in the letter organized by Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.), a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Congressional aides said the letter was prompted by the circumstances surrounding the sudden derailment of the White House’s original choice for ambassador to South Korea, a post that has remained vacant since Trump took office.
layman
 
  -4  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 01:11 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Congressional aides said the letter was prompted by the circumstances surrounding the sudden derailment of the White House’s original choice for ambassador to South Korea, a post that has remained vacant since Trump took office.


Well, ya know, all the months during which the Japs were planning and executing their sneak Pearl Harbor attack, they were negotiating in Washington.

Their ambassadors terminated all further diplomatic discussions, saying agreement was hopeless, about 3 minutes before the first jap bombs dropped.

So this is a good sign that the nuking of North Korea is imminent, eh!?
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layman
 
  -3  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 01:17 am
@layman,
H. L. Mencken wrote:
“Philosophy consists very largely of one philosopher arguing that all others are jackasses. He usually proves it, and I should add that he also usually proves that he is one himself.”
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Mon 5 Feb, 2018 01:34 am
@layman,
So you are now on Kuno Fischer? Quite a good knowledge about German philosophers!
 

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