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@Frugal1,

Frugal1 wrote:

The fascist movement 0bama & friends tried to install in this country was rejected in a HUGE way.

Well, I'd thought that the Silver Legion of America wasn't active for decades.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Mob rule (democracy) never works, when will liberal progressive democrats realize this fact of life.

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@Walter Hinteler,

It's obvious Frugal doesn't understand the standard definition of words.

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@cicerone imposter,

You lefties are going to keep throwing "titles" at the wall until you find something that sticks. It would appear that it is he Dems who don't want our democracy to work, they are the one's screaming to change how the President is elected. A process that has worked for over 200 years but now is suddenly broken because Hillary didn't win...

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@cicerone imposter,

You lie!

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@Walter Hinteler,

Frugal, What fascist activity is Obama responsible for? Do you understand how the US government works? Do you know that we have three branches of government, and how they operate?

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@cicerone imposter,

You are a habitual liar!

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@cicerone imposter,

Obama ignored the 3 branches of govt when he wanted to and used EO/EA's to get his way. He was more dictator then checks and balances, when you threaten to use your phone and pen...

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

glitterbag wrote:
Well, this has been interesting. I had no idea so many members were so well informed about Russia, China, North Korea and of course the United States. You can tell can't you, on how steeped in language, culture and history these members are? Why they practically have their finger on the pulse of Vlad Putin.
It appears you infer here that you are "steeped in (the) language, culture and history " of these countries in a way that the members to which you refer are not. Is that the case?

It does not infer that AT ALL. What words in particular do you think infer that?

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@Baldimo,

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It would appear that it is he Dems who don't want our democracy to work, they are the one's screaming to change how the President is elected

Well, if we were to accept the current framework, this wouldn't necessarily be about 'wanting our democracy to work'..it would more or less be what kind of democracy do we want..the dems would be engaged in wanting to change the rules surrounding the rules around an ostensibly democratic process.

However, yeah, if there is any movement away from the EC that the dems are promoting, it is probably fostered by losing this election and its 'playing politics'. If they had won, they wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole..

However, I don't accept the aforementioned framework. The US gov't hasn't wanted what I would call a proper democracy since its inception and its only gotten worse. And if you are suggesting by your statement about the dems not wanting democracy that its only they that are engaged in this enervation of democracy, I have to disagree..

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@maporsche,

You are incorrect.

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@catbeasy,

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However, I don't accept the aforementioned framework. The US gov't hasn't wanted what I would call a proper democracy since its inception and its only gotten worse. And if you are suggesting by your statement about the dems not wanting democracy that its only they that are engaged in this enervation of democracy, I have to disagree..

We were never meant to be a "Democracy", we are a representitive republic. The only place we have a "Democracy" is at the state and local level, the govt works how the Founders intended it to. The Dems on the other hand only want to have mob rule when it fits them. Presidential election is ok, but if the majority pass a law you don't like, you are more than happy to have a non-democratic process to refute or kill the law. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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@catbeasy,

I am not an expert either. I DO think it is common sense that we want to be friends with as many people as we can, and that Russia has every reason to want to be our friend. Nobody wants another cold or hot war, wasting time and money building up an even BIGGER nuclear arsenal in some kind of "mine's bigger contest".

There are other countries like China and North Korea that are almost opposite of what we are in our philosophy, and they are much more dangerous in my opinion. We will never be buddy buddy with these countries that don't believe what we do, but we have a chance to do that with Russia.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

You are incorrect.

Not at all.

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@Baldimo,

Baldimo wrote:

We were never meant to be a "Democracy", we are a representitive republic.

I'll never understand, why this false dichotomy is repeated over and over again.

The USA is not a direct democracy but a representative democracy.
Generally, "democracy" is understood to include representative democracy as well as direct democracy.

A "republic" is a form of government which excludes a monarch.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Say the pledge of allegiance.

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@tony5732,

tony5732 wrote:

Say the pledge of allegiance.

Define Republic.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

That's the current version of the pledge.

The first one was a little different, but every pledge always said "to the republic". That's because we are a republic.

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@Walter Hinteler,

A good read
https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm

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@tony5732,

tony5732 wrote:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC, for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

That's the current version of the pledge.

The first one was a little different, but every pledge always said "to the republic". That's because we are a republic.

Define republic.

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