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thack45
 
  2  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 10:41 am
@revelette1,
It's my understanding that the memo will not be released. To which I feel Democrats should turn around and shout, "No really... release the memo!"
blatham
 
  3  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 10:46 am
@revelette1,
No, it's entirely a right wing phenomenon. This is a propaganda campaign designed to keep the base paranoid and angry, to backstop all the steps being taken by the GOP and Trump to invalidate or shut down the FBI investigation, and to fill up mainstream media with noise and diversion.
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blatham
 
  2  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 10:49 am
@thack45,
Now that I think about it, it's quite surprising that the Trump Towers gift-shop doesn't carry little gold-painted statuettes of Jesus - with Donald's hairdo.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 11:34 am
@ehBeth,
the podcast for later

worth it for one line

"With Donald Trump, it's not a sudden seizure, not a heart attack, it's gum disease,"


(there are some good transcribed excerpts at the link)
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 11:36 am
Quote:
A man has been arrested for allegedly threatening to commit mass murder at the CNN headquarters in Atlanta, US media report.

The FBI launched an investigation after the Michigan man reportedly made 22 calls to CNN a week ago, according to federal court documents.

"I'm coming to gun you all down," the man, who was identified as 19-year-old Brandon Griesemer, purportedly said.

Mr Griesemer reportedly made claims of "fake news" to the CNN operator.

"I'm smarter than you. More powerful than you. I have more guns than you. More manpower. Your cast is about to get gunned down in a matter of hours," the man is purported to say, according to court documents.

He threatened to come to Atlanta, Georgia, where CNN is based and "gun every single last one of you".

CNN responded with a statement on Twitter that said it "takes any threats to CNN employees or workplaces, around the world, extremely seriously".

The statement ensured that the company had been in touch with federal law enforcement throughout the process and "have taken all necessary measures to ensure the safety of our people".

The FBI said it was able to trace Mr Griesemer's number and arrested him over the threats.

The same number was linked to threatening phone calls to an Islamic centre in Ann Arbor, Michigan, according to media reports of the arrest affidavit.

CNN has been continually criticised by President Donald Trump for being "fake news". He has railed against the news organisation for its coverage of his administration.

In July Mr Trump retweeted a cartoon video of himself punching the network in the face.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42792611
hightor
 
  4  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 11:42 am
@thack45,
Quote:
It's my understanding that the memo will not be released.

The stinking Nunes memo is worth more dangled in front of the salivating base, waved around teasingly as the wafting, rotten stench inspires the proles to yelp in a grand Pavlovian chorus, "Release the memo! Release the memo!"

Fake news...it's the opiate of the people...Republican people.
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Baldimo
 
  -2  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 11:43 am
@revelette1,
It's actually missing text messages from 2 anti-Trump people, one involved with Fusion GPS and the other who was involved in drafting the "Hillary Memo" and was 2nd in charge of the Russian/Trump collusion investigation. Suddenly 5 months of incriminating and anti-Trump messages between the 2 lovers has gone missing. Interesting is it not.
hightor
 
  2  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 11:45 am
@Baldimo,
Maybe they'll show up on WikiLeaks.
hightor
 
  2  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 11:51 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
The same number was linked to threatening phone calls to an Islamic centre in Ann Arbor, Michigan...

What a brave little flaggot, upholding the great ideals of our Republic, one threatening phone call at a time...
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ehBeth
 
  4  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:03 pm
@hightor,
there's nothing missing

unless you're in a Russian botfarm
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layman
 
  -4  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:23 pm
The "memo" was written a good time back, from information provided by FBI whistle-blowers. Here it is, more or less:

Quote:
The FISA Abuse Memo Unveiled; What Exactly Is In the Memo

Thas been republished from Sept. 20, 2017 — Four months ago, when the FISA scheme was spelled out definitively by Intel veterans at True Pundit. Little did we know the information would ever go public. But this summarizes what to largely expect when the FISA Abuse memo is unveiled.

From the beginning it was a set up to find dirt on Trump campaign insiders and if possible to topple Donald Trump’s presidential aspirations.

Before and after the 2016 election. And while this operation had many moving parts and alternating players, the mission to unseat Trump never changed. And it remains ongoing.

Paul Manafort was wiretapped. Cater Page was wiretapped. Donald Trump Jr. was wiretapped. Jared Kushner was wiretapped. Gen. Michael Flynn was wiretapped. And likely there were others.

And none of it was very legal.

In fact, most of it was very illegal, according to federal law enforcement sources who are blowing the whistle on a sweeping scheme to undermine the Executive branch and the electorate’s choice for president of the United States.

And according to high ranking FBI sources, the Bureau played a definitive role in plotting this sweeping privacy breach. But the FBI had much help from the NSA, CIA, the Office of of the Director of National Intelligence, Treasury financial crimes division under DHS, and the Justice Department, federal law enforcement sources confirmed.

The Deep State caretakers involved are familiar names: James Comey (FBI), John Brennan (CIA), James Clapper (ODNI), Loretta Lynch (DOJ), Jeh Johnson (DHS), Admiral Michael Rogers (NSA). And then-director of GCHQ Robert Hannigan who has since resigned from the esteemed British spy agency.

President Barack Obama’s White House too could be implicated, sources said. But while evidence certainly points to involvement of the Obama administration, sources said they did not have access to definitive intelligence proving such a link.

Here is what we now know, per intelligence gleaned form federal law enforcement sources with insider knowledge of what amounts to a plot by U.S. intelligence agencies to secure back door and illegal wiretaps of President Trump’s associates:

Six U.S. agencies created a stealth task force, spearhead by CIA’s Brennan, to run domestic surveillance on Trump associates and possibly Trump himself.

To feign ignorance and to seemingly operate within U.S. laws, the agencies freelanced the wiretapping of Trump associates to the British spy agency GCHQ.

The decision to insert GCHQ as a back door to eavesdrop was sparked by the denial of two FISA Court warrant applications filed by the FBI to seek wiretaps of Trump associates.

GCHQ did not work from London or the UK. In fact the spy agency worked from NSA’s headquarters in Fort Meade, MD with direct NSA supervision and guidance to conduct sweeping surveillance on Trump associates.
The illegal wiretaps were initiated months before the controversial Trump dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele.

The Justice Department and FBI set up the meeting at Trump Tower between Trump Jr., Manafort and Kushner with controversial Russian officials to make Trump’s associates appear compromised.

Following the Trump Tower sit down, GCHQ began digitally wiretapping Manafort, Trump Jr., and Kushner.

After the concocted meeting by the Deep State, the British spy agency could officially justify wiretapping Trump associates as an intelligence front for NSA because the Russian lawyer at the meeting Natalia Veselnitskaya was considered an international security risk and prior to the June sit down was not even allowed entry into the United States or the UK, federal sources said.

By using GCHQ, the NSA and its intelligence partners had carved out a loophole to wiretap Trump without a warrant. While it is illegal for U.S. agencies to monitor phones and emails of U.S. citizens inside the United States absent a warrant, it is not illegal for British intelligence to do so. Even if the GCHQ was tapping Trump on U.S. soil at Fort Meade.

The wiretaps, secured through illicit scheming, have been used by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe of alleged Russian collusion in the 2016 election, even though the evidence is considered “poisoned fruit.”
Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who spearheaded the Trump Tower meeting with the Trump campaign trio, was previously barred from entering the United Sates due to her alleged connections to the Russian FSB (the modern replacement of the cold-war-era KGB).

Yet mere days before the June meeting, Veselnitskaya was granted a rare visa to enter the United States from Preet Bharara, the then U.S. Attorney for the southern district of New York. Bharara could not be reached for comment and did not respond the a Twitter inquiry on the Russian’s visa by True Pundit.


Thomas Paine
@Thomas1774Paine
Replying to @PreetBharara
Mr. Bharara, @PreetBharara Why did you sign off a rare visa allowing Ms. Veselnitskaya into the United States? She was banned by @StateDept

Federal law enforcement sources said Bharara was simply following the orders of Attorney General Lynch, who lobbied the State Department to issue the disavowed Russian a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa. This permitted Veselnitskaya entry into the United States for the sole purpose of entrapping Trump associates to use as fuel to commission wiretaps, federal sources said.

Veselnitskaya may have been paid as well by the U.S. government, FBI sources said. It was reported last week that Steele, who compiled the Trump dossier was paid at least $100,000 from FBI funds as well. But that came later, after the wiretapping was well underway.

The illegal eavesdropping started long before Steele’s dossier. Federal sources said the wiretaps on Trump insiders began in late 2015, almost a year before the 2016 election. The targets then were Flynn and Page, sources confirmed. When no smoking gun was recovered from those initial taps, U.S. intelligence agencies moved to broaden the scope through their newly-formed alliance.

Intelligence garnered from the British eavesdropping, which again was merely a front for the NSA, was then used in August 2016 to secure a legitimate FISA warrant on Manafort, Trump Jr. and Kushner. That warrant was issued on or about September, 2016, federal sources confirm.

It was the third time the cabal of U.S. intelligence agencies sought a FISA warrant for the Trump associates and this time it was approved.

FBI sources said finally obtaining the FISA warrant was important because it provided the agencies cover for previous illegal wiretapping which they believed would never be discovered.

“This would make for an incredible string of Senate hearings,” one federal law enforcement source said. “I don’t think they ever thought he (Trump) would win and information would come out about how they manipulated evidence.”


https://truepundit.com/fisa-abuse-memo-unveiled-exactly-memo-according-intel-insiders/

This banned russian lawyer was also seen in the company of Fusion's Glenn Simpson both before and after the Trump Tower meeting on the same day it was held.

Just a wild-ass coincidence, ya figure?
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layman
 
  -3  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:35 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Another laughable "worse than Watergate" claim, a four page document compiled by a bunch of GOP House members, complete with an Astroturf campaign and a peanut gallery of Russian bots and trolls working overtime and calling for its release.

Don't these people ever feel the slightest bit of embarrassment? Doesn't it ever dawn on their base they're being used?


Just keep on keepin on with your whistling in the dark, eh, Hi? Say it to your homeboys, and have them say it back to you hundreds of time. That will fix everything.
hightor
 
  4  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:37 pm
@layman,
Just keep on keepin on with your whistling in the dark, eh, layman? Say it to your homeboys, and have them say it back to you hundreds of time. That will fix everything.
layman
 
  -2  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:43 pm
@hightor,
Ya think these allegations from FBI agents are worth investigating, eh, Hi?
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -3  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:50 pm
@maporsche,
If, if, if, and if....

The shutdown was a political tactic

It didn't survive a weekend. It clearly failed.

Schummer didn't compromise, he caved.

Republicans have and will continue to screw the pooch with their tactics. This time it was the Dems.

You can try to cast it in a better light for your tribe, but that dog won't hunt.

Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that the Dems miscalculated and blew it?
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -4  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:53 pm
@layman,
I've no doubt what-so-ever that the Dem base is going crazy about the fold, which is why now Schummer is declaring there will be no funding of the wall, but the Dem's internal polling clearly showed that while most Americans look kindly on the so-called Dreamers, they don't want the government shut down for them.

Schummer is an utterly political creature.
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maporsche
 
  4  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:54 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that the Dems miscalculated and blew it?


Well, I've yet to see a compelling case that there was any harm, anywhere, from what ended up happening this weekend.

Miscalculated and blew what exactly? The shutdown was never a goal or an achievement that was desired.

There was a 3 day government shutdown over MLK day too; the world didn't end then either.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -4  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:55 pm
@maporsche,
Thank you

Now you're an adjudicator of what is and isn't a valuable contribution?

Pretty presumptuous don't you think?

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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -4  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:57 pm
@maporsche,
You asked me if you were wrong and I answered.

Now you want to suggest that there was something arrogant about me answering your question.

Don't ask questions you can't abide answers to.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -4  
Tue 23 Jan, 2018 12:59 pm
@maporsche,
Don't ask a question if you are too thin skinned to get an answer you don't like.
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