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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

But I had had the hope that American diplomacy had changed during the last couple of years to the better.

You can't improve on perfection.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

That's not a "leftist belief". Leftists commonly criticize shithole countries ruled by shitheads. I never heard any leftist accused of racism for denouncing Mugabe, Zuma, or Kabila, to name the leaders of three shithole countries. (Mugabe's an ex-leader)

I've heard Africans denounce anyone who frowns on African war criminals, and seen them defiantly embrace those war criminals when the world condemns them.

hightor wrote:

Except that many people perceive that to be just what he was doing.

Those people always accuse other people of racism though. It's just what they do.

hightor wrote:

I agree. The rest of the world can now see just how squalid we really are.

Hardly squalid. The problem here isn't America (or Trump for representing America). The problem here is the rest of the world.

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Greg gets this exactly right

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What this episode also does is shatter the endless euphemisms and dissembling that Trump and his allies have employed to obscure a related truth: that the nationalism at the core of Trumpism is heavily driven by a reactionary backlash to the current ethnic and racial mix of the U.S. population — it is white nationalism, despite all the what-me-racist protestation to the contrary.

Greg Sargent

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Pete Hoekstra said that with hindsight, “I’m shocked I said it. It was a misstatement. It was simply wrong.”
[...]

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Hoekstra, a former Republican congressman from Michigan, talked about “no-go zones” on several occasions; he had areferred to their presence in European cities multiple times in conservative medi before he became the ambassador.

A misstatement is once or maybe twice if in the same day. He, "referred to their presence in European cities multiple times in conservative medi before he became the ambassador" - he is lying through his teeth!

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

So you know the facts?

I wouldn't say I was following the story closely, but it looks to me like he made some comment in the past about how dangerous Islamic extremists were getting in that country, and a bunch of locals were throwing a tantrum about his past comment.

As for the accuracy of the past comment, I have no idea. But even if it was inaccurate, it hardly warrants the tantrum that people are throwing.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Can you name the Dutch politician who was set on fire?

No. But I vaguely remember something about it on the news a long time ago.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

If there's a real merit system then there's no lottery.

Exactly.

Trump wrote:

The so-called bipartisan DACA deal presented yesterday to myself and a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen was a big step backwards. Wall was not properly funded, Chain & Lottery were made worse and USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime countries which are doing badly. I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level. I want safety and security for our people. I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs. I want to fund our military, not do a Dem defund.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
Can you name the Dutch politician who was set on fire?

No. But I vaguely remember something about it on the news a long time ago.

Any idea why that is unknown not only in the Netherlands but elsewhere? And why the ambassador now apologised for saying such?

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Any idea why that is unknown not only in the Netherlands but elsewhere?

No idea.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

And why the ambassador now apologised for saying such?

As I said, probably some sort of diplomacy thing. I'd have been considerably ruder and more defiant in that situation.

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Edgar Ray Killen, the preacher and Ku Klux Klansman convicted and sent to prison more than 40 years after he plotted the 1964 slayings of three civil rights activists in the "Mississippi Burning" case, died on Thursday night at the age of 92, Mississippi correction officials said.

Killen, who would have turned 93 on Jan. 17, was pronounced dead at the hospital at Mississippi State Penitentiary, according to a statement on the state Department of Corrections website on Friday.

Note, death is a solemn occasion and I understand those rites completely. This occasion is of note not for the death but that it happened in prison to someone guilty of commiting racists acts!

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@layman,

layman wrote:

revelette1 wrote:

we all know Trump never lies. The WH has already confirmed Trump used vulgarity.

Where? Show me that.

We already know who regularly lies, eh?: "Anonymous sources" cited by the NYT.

Still waitin, eh, Rev? You said Trump was lyin, too. Got a WH source for that?

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@BillW,

Hoekstra, DeVos, Amway. Quite the gang of American thieves and liars.

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Bloomberg wrote:

Trump further inflamed the debate by questioning, during a meeting with lawmakers in the Oval Office on Thursday, why the U.S. accepts immigrants from “shithole countries” like Haiti, El Salvador and African nations rather than places like Norway, according to three people briefed on the exchange.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-12/trump-rebuff-of-immigration-deal-puts-deadline-pressure-on-talks

I see....people "briefed on the exchange," eh? Not people who were actually there, or anything. Just the kinda "evidence" that would be flatly prohibited in a court of law.

Nuthin like good ole hearsay for cheese-eaters. Like the Steele dossier, ya know?

Notice that even this version implies that people from places like Norway would NOT BE ACCEPTED. That's not accurate, as any fool would know. Nor does it indicate that NOBODY from the countries mentioned would be accepted. The whole thing just don't sound that reliable, know what I'm sayin?

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@layman,

The way it was reported elsewhere, the proposal was to cut the diversity lottery in half, but only if the remaining 50% went ONLY to certain african and central american countries. In that sense, Norway and every other country WOULD be excluded (from the lottery, not general immigration).

This was a demand of the Black Caucus, they said.

Again, I ax ya: Who, if anyone, is being "racist" here? Who wants to exclude who?

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Russia-linked hackers are trying to infiltrate the Senate, cyber firm says

Politico

Who cares? More important is the corruption of the Clinton FBI, the Obama CIA and the Jimmy Carter Habitat for Humanity Who Are Not Necessarily White.

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Cotton, Perdue Attended Trump Meeting But ‘Do Not Recall’ Sh*thole Comment

TPM

"Do not recall". It was two days ago. Does Trump talk like this so often (or do Cotton and Perdue) that "shithole countries" didn't stand out?

Of course, they are lying but trying to cover their asses in case there's an audio recording or further verification from individuals who actually have integrity.

****, I despise these people.

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@layman,

The whole argument for DACA was that these people were too young to knowingly break the law and were brought into the country by their illegally entering parents, who broke the law for both of them.

Now, this "compromise" bill allowed the DACA "kids" (they aint) to keep their parents (the lawbreakers) here, too.

Probably a stupido-ass brainstorm of "Sneaky Diane," eh? But she needed to be sneakier about it, the fool. ****, ya give these ingrates an inch and then they will invariably demand a mile.

Just throw them all out, Trump. They can go like they came in--as one big family.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

Hoekstra, DeVos, Amway. Quite the gang of American thieves and liars.

Don't forget:

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David Friedman, a bankruptcy lawyer Trump has called a longtime friend and trusted adviser, has supported Jewish settlement building and advocated the annexation of the West Bank, which Israel captured from Jordan in the 1967 war.

His nomination has been fiercely opposed by some American Jewish groups.

Friedman repeatedly expressed regret for likening liberal American Jews to Jewish prisoners who worked for the Nazis during the Holocaust, telling the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in his opening statement, “I regret the use of such language.”

and, there of course are others.....<sigh> so sad!

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Oh goodness.

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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), one of the lawmakers in attendance at the Thursday meeting during which President Donald Trump referred to African countries as “shithole countries,” said Friday afternoon that he said his “piece” to the President following the comments.

Graham’s statement did not confirm that Trump used the phrase “shithole countries,” but it did not deny that either, and Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) already said that Graham confirmed the comments to him privately.

TPM

Conservatives - just not into the whole honesty thing.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

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Cotton, Perdue Attended Trump Meeting But ‘Do Not Recall’ Sh*thole Comment
TPM

"Do not recall". It was two days ago. Does Trump talk like this so often (or do Cotton and Perdue) that "shithole countries" didn't stand out?

Of course, they are lying but trying to cover their asses in case there's an audio recording or further verification from individuals who actually have integrity.

****, I despise these people.

Racist apologist are racists - by Bill's rule! No wiggle room allowed. Even if you can't say it in public. Is the desire to get Secretary of State that important?

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Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!

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Mueller To Request May 14 Trial Date For Manafort And Gates

TPM

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