192
   

monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
blatham
 
  4  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 06:50 pm
"Shithole countries"
Quote:
A White House official told CNN the President's "shithole" remark is being received much differently inside of the White House than it is outside. The official said that although this might enrage Washington, staffers predict the comment would resonate with Trump's base, similarly to how Trump's attacks on NFL players kneeling during the National Anthem did.
CNN

I expect there's truth in that assumption re Trump's base. Of course, there'd be even more of that good, ol' resonating going on if Trump said "shithole nigger countries".
blatham
 
  4  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 07:04 pm
Last month, Trump skipped the Kennedy Center Honors evening. It was the first time in 40 years that a President and first lady did not attend. I'm sure most of you have watched these celebrations over the years and if not, there are many on youtube. And they are incredible!

But Trump didn't go. He didn't go because he would have been terribly out of place where the attention is on many others, but not him. Because he would have been booed until the cows came home, had dinner, turned on their TVs to watch the Honors, and climbed into bed. He would have been booed publicly, on TV. And that's why this has happened...
Quote:
Donald Trump visit to London called off amid fears of mass protests
Guardian
0 Replies
 
BillW
 
  4  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 07:07 pm
@blatham,
This once again shows why he isn't in control of himself. I think everyone does a disservice by saying be is a 5 year old. Obviously, he isn't and doesn't act like one, so this criticism is thrown out in total. That's one thing learned in project management, don't blow up something way beyond the truth, especially if it is a good point.

In truth, tRump acts like a thirteen year old. Mischievous, arrogant, narcissistic, lies, lies, lies, can't keep his mind on anything, degrades others, could care less what anybody else thinks, can't concentrate, did I mention - lies! Oh, even though I'm pretty sure he can't get his up any more, his mind is always on his little peepee, always bragging it is so-so big. Acting just like all the older punks!

See, this isn't a 5 year old, but 13! Yeap, he's mentally a 13 year old, has been for his entire life; and, I don't want a 13 year old as President.
Below viewing threshold (view)
layman
 
  -4  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 07:31 pm
@layman,
Quote:
...recent Nigerian immigrants would never "go back to their huts" in Africa...


In other words, it's predictable that they would violate and overstay their visa permit, and would head to Chicago, San Francisco, or some other sanctuary city and hole up for life living in high rise apartments financed by government money.

Sounds like something Muhammad Ali woulda thought, eh?

Quote:
Ali grew up in a culture saturated with myths about Africa. In 1960, during the Rome Olympics, he had compared America favorably to Africa, whose natives, he said, were still fighting alligators and living in mud huts.

[He] thought very little about Africa and cared even less. In his view, Africans were not a celebrated people; they were the butt of his jokes. In 1962, he told sportswriter Myron Cope a story about an encounter with two African men.

“Man,” he chuckled, “I was down at the beach with two of them Africans. They so black they almost blue, but they said to me, ‘Cassius, we have to leave now and go put on our turbans and uniforms ’cause, if we don’t, people gonna think we’re Negroes.’ ”


Ali was schooled by his mentor, Elijah Muhammad, the supreme minister of the Nation of Islam.

Quote:
Elijah determined that Ali’s trip abroad would overshadow their attacks, helping him legitimize his Muslim movement...Elijah reserved profound doubts about the regions.

After his own journey there in 1959, Elijah was disillusioned by the extreme poverty he saw, which he interpreted as a weakness in the people. Before his trip, he had talked about building an emigration movement to Africa, but afterward he ceased considering the plan.

Years after his trek abroad, he complained that Africans still lived “a jungle life,” deriding them as “savages” in need of his civilizing influence. Although he praised the emergence of independent African nations, he remained uninterested in building any genuine relationships with African leaders.

Malcolm X said: “You cannot read anything that Elijah Muhammad has ever written that’s pro-African,” he charged. “I defy you to find one word in his direct writings that is pro-African. You can’t find it.”

0 Replies
 
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 07:32 pm
Since I read Larry Tye's book on Edward Bernays about a decade ago, I've been trying to convince anyone within earshot to order it and read it too. It's one of a handful or two of works that I've found immeasurably helpful in understanding what's going on in modern US politics. In any case, here's a fine and relatively shot piece on Bernays. Note that "propaganda" didn't then carry the connotations it now has (after Hitler and Goebbels - the latter of whom had a copy of Bernay's book "Propaganda" in his personal library). In Bernays' time, the word really meant "how to sell **** effectively"

Quote:
In his 1928 classic Propaganda, Bernays said propagandists constituted “an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of…in almost every act of our daily lives…. It is they who pull the wires that control the public mind.”

In an era of “manipulation of public opinion,” Bernays believed the people’s “voice” had come to be the “inherited prejudices and symbols and cliches and verbal formulas supplied to them by the leaders.” He understood: “Good government can be sold to a community just as any other commodity can be sold.” But bad government could be sold, too. Anticipating Ronald Reagan—and Donald Trump—Bernays recommended sending young politicos “to work for Broadway theatrical productions or … as assistants to professional propagandists before recruiting them” to politics.
DB
glitterbag
 
  6  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 07:38 pm
@BillW,
I'm watching Anderson Cooper on CNN and he's the first on-air person to actually use the phrase 'shithole' instead of 's'hole....Bravo Anderson for not sugar coating the president's racist remarks.
BillW
 
  4  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 07:39 pm
@blatham,
As proof, Marketing VPs make more than R&D VPs.
BillW
 
  4  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 07:43 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

I'm watching Anderson Cooper on CNN and he's the first on-air person to actually use the phrase 'shithole' instead of 's'hole....Bravo Anderson for not sugar coating the president's racist remarks.


Joy Reed doing the Chris Hayes show did also. I think they are in a timeslot that permits it. She did it twice, once out of quotes and with emphasis cause she was throwing it in the face of a HofR from Kansas.
0 Replies
 
Below viewing threshold (view)
layman
 
  -4  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 08:39 pm
A spirited debate between a Fox News host and some guy named Jose, eh? Tucker don't like lyin, Jose don't like racism. Who won, ya figure?

0 Replies
 
Below viewing threshold (view)
Below viewing threshold (view)
Below viewing threshold (view)
Below viewing threshold (view)
BillW
 
  3  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 09:45 pm
@BillW,
How long before the WH handlers decide it is best for tRump to go back to not "working" no matter what Wolff wrote in his book. By visibly "working" he is proving all the other points in the book which are much more detrimental to him. It would make the handlers job much easier and Sarah wouldn't have to do as much lying........
layman
 
  -4  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 09:58 pm
@layman,
layman wrote:
A number of analysts have argued that Clinton lost the election the day she made her "basket of deplorables" statement. They're probably right.


These cheese-eaters are so lacking in self-awareness and so brimming with arrogant presumptions of moral superiority, that they actually thought Clinton's idiocy would gain them tens of millions of votes, instead of losing them.

Since then, many people have taken some pity on them and tried to explain to them where they were going wrong so that they could improve themselves. The pompous-ass ignorant fools won't hear a word of it, though, ya know?

Back when I was justa small chile, my Mama done told me, she said: "Looky here, layboy, ya can put a bit in a hoss's mouth, lead his ass down to the crick, and then beat his sorry ass with a 2" x 4" all day long but ya still aint gunna make him drink if he don't wanna. Remember that, boy," she said.

I said: "OK, Mama." And I still remember, just like I promised. And I done found out that she wasn't lyin, neither.

0 Replies
 
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 10:22 pm
@BillW,
That's a very good point.
blatham
 
  2  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 10:23 pm
Jay's thoughts are the same as mine
Quote:
Jay Rosen‏Verified account
@jayrosen_nyu
Many people sent this to me. Can't think of a clearer demo for the weakness of our press corps. https://interc.pt/2Di2naU
0 Replies
 
BillW
 
  3  
Thu 11 Jan, 2018 10:26 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

That's a very good point.

Also, a 5 year old is not responsible for his actions, a 13 can be, especially if it is a 70 year old portraying a 13 year olds shenanigans.
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

Obama '08? - Discussion by sozobe
Let's get rid of the Electoral College - Discussion by Robert Gentel
McCain's VP: - Discussion by Cycloptichorn
Food Stamp Turkeys - Discussion by H2O MAN
The 2008 Democrat Convention - Discussion by Lash
McCain is blowing his election chances. - Discussion by McGentrix
Snowdon is a dummy - Discussion by cicerone imposter
TEA PARTY TO AMERICA: NOW WHAT?! - Discussion by farmerman
 
Copyright © 2025 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.47 seconds on 01/21/2025 at 10:56:33