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layman
 
  -4  
Mon 1 Jan, 2018 06:22 pm
@layman,
Well, it didn't take Trump long to get some action, eh?
Quote:
Associated Press 7 hours ago

ISLAMABAD – Authorities in the Pakistani capital has imposed a temporary law pre-empting the activities of groups banned on a U.N. watch list for terrorist activity.

Mushtaq Ahmed, a top Islamabad administrator, in an order released Monday says the law has been imposed for two months in the capital after reports some organizations and their affiliates on the U.N. list have been collecting funds, holding religious, political and social functions and displaying promotional banners.

It comes after recent rallies by the banned organization Jamaat-ud-Dawa. JuD is believed to be a front for Lashker-e-Taiba which was blamed for the November 2008 Mumbai attacks that killed 166 people.

Hafiz Saeed, the founder of Lashker-e-Taiba, has a $10 million bounty on his head by the U.S.


Cool! We're back to offering dead or alive bounties, eh!?

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layman
 
  -4  
Mon 1 Jan, 2018 06:50 pm
A sterling example of a case calling for the utmost leniency and understanding, eh?

Quote:
Couple who had sex in Domino's spared jail time

The couple was reportedly waiting for stuffed crust pizza when they let their “exuberant spirits get the better of them,” and had oral sex and sexual intercourse for 18 minutes against a counter inside the popular pizza chain.

Daniella Hirst, 29, pleaded guilty last month to outraging public decency. Smith was found guilty of the same offense in September.

The couple was “very close to going to prison,” magistrates in Scarborough said, according to the BBC.


What a frame-up, eh? Who would be "outraged," I ask ya?

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blatham
 
  5  
Mon 1 Jan, 2018 06:54 pm
This is fun. The quote is taken from a Jeffrey Toobin piece in a June 2008 issue I'm going to break it into two parts. "Roger" is Roger Stone.

Part 1:
Quote:
“Roger is a stone-cold loser,” Trump told me.


And here the kicker
Part 2:
Quote:
“He always tries taking credit for things he never did.”

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layman
 
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Mon 1 Jan, 2018 07:26 pm
Quote:
Leaked meeting notes show how panicked Iranian regime considered stopping deadly protests: 'God help us'

EXCLUSIVE – A leaked report provided to Fox News shows how Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei met with political leaders and heads of the country's security forces to discuss how to tamp down on the deadly nationwide protests.

The meeting notes, said the unrest has hurt every sector of the country's economy and “threatens the regime’s security. The first step, therefore, is to find a way out of this situation.”

The report added, “Religious leaders and the leadership must come to the scene as soon as possible and prevent the situation (from) deteriorating further.” It continued, “God help us, this is a very complex situation and is different from previous occasions.”

According to NCRI sources and reports from within Iran, at least 40 cities across Iran witnessed protests Monday, including in the capital city of Tehran. These reports state that slogans heard included “Death to the dictator,” and “the leader lives like God while the people live like beggars.”


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/01/01/leaked-meeting-notes-show-how-panicked-iranian-regime-considered-stopping-deadly-protests-god-help-us.html

The running dogs can read the handwriting on the wall, eh? Trump is backing this ****.

Not long ago he was praising the great iranian people while condemning the Mullahs who run the country. He aint stupid.




layman
 
  -4  
Mon 1 Jan, 2018 08:03 pm
The cheese-eating CNN wrote:
The instinctive, forceful and less-nuanced approach of Trump contrasts with the more circumspect strategy pursued by Obama after Green Revolution protests broke out in response to a disputed election win by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Obama's response reflected his tendency to plot how splashy presidential gestures would play out several moves in advance — and how they would be received elsewhere in the world, outside Washington's political echo chamber.

Dennis Ross, who was a National Security Council official under Obama and veteran Middle East peace negotiator, told CNN on Monday that, in retrospect, the initial caution shown by the last White House was a "mistake"..."I think we should have made it clear that, in fact, the world was watching," Ross said, adding that Trump was striking the "right tone."


http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/01/politics/trump-obama-iran-protests/index.html
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MontereyJack
 
  4  
Mon 1 Jan, 2018 08:43 pm
@layman,
Right. I see. So your story has no basis in fact, so you make up out of whole cloth a scenario with no actual evidence anyone actually did it, to try to chow why your fictional story could have happened. That's fake news pure and simple, my friend.
MontereyJack
 
  3  
Mon 1 Jan, 2018 11:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
In the news today, they s=estimate that Trump's golfing excusrsions, which he swore he was going to be too busy doing presidential things to have any time for. HA. will cost the American taxpayers $43,000,000 in 2017 alone. That works out to something over 4000, that's four thousand, American families whose taxes are doing nothing but [at for Trump's golf trips. Spounds a hell of a lot like cheating the American taxpayer.
We sure as hell didn't elect him (Well, we didn't actually elect hm. He lost the vote), to waste our money on that scale. Malfeasance in office. Lock him up.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Tue 2 Jan, 2018 12:00 am
Trump's attacks against a biased liberal media obscure one fact: it doesn't exist
Quote:
Everyone loves to hate the media for its supposed liberal bias but Donald Trump, never one to lose at things, has taken it to new heights.

Trump has called the media “highly slanted”, “fake news”, and “the enemy of the American people”. Like so much of what he says, his claims need fact-checking, all the more so because the myth has been around much longer than Trump. Years before he was politically center stage, Sarah Palin dubbed it the “lamestream” liberal media, while to Newt Gingrich it was simply the “elite media”. Trump just did what he does best: supercharge the myth.

To the extent the claim has truth, it is limited to the political persuasions of editorial staffers, many of whom exercise relatively little editorial control. The more salient questions around bias, then, have little to do with staffer headcounts, and more with the allegiances and affiliations of owners. They also, in this increasingly polarized news environment, have to do with the sources where Americans get their news.

The answers there point, overwhelmingly, to conservative control.

[... ... ...]

The media hasn’t grown more liberal. In fact, it wasn’t even all that liberal to begin with – that’s just another of Trump’s lies. What has changed is the public perception around it, and how effectively Trump has exploited negative opinion and animosity toward an unpopular monolith to obfuscate truth and aid his own rise.

Media spin, liberal or otherwise, is and was never the problem. It’s how we were all spun for fools, by him.
BillW
 
  2  
Tue 2 Jan, 2018 02:46 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Farina was a contemporary of Morrison who died tragically a few years previous to the release of the tune on the L.A. Woman album. Farina was aware of the Furry Lewis tune but there's no indication that Morrison was. The reference was probably second-hand. Notice Morrison's lyric here:
Morrison wrote:
Well, I've been down so Goddamn long
That it looks like up to me

If he were really inspired by the Furry Lewis tune why didn't he use the original lyric? His tune doesn't resemble the Lewis tune at all.
Lewis wrote:
I been down so long
It seem like up to me

Why you tryin' a stir up ****, man?


Also note that Farina was married to Mimi Baez, Joan's sister. All in the family, except Furry Lewis who started the line.
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izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 2 Jan, 2018 04:55 am
@Walter Hinteler,
It's the same reason Tories complain about bias on the BBC, say a lie long enough and people start to believe it. The drones have been parroting Trump for the past three years, and they're not going to let little things like facts and the truth get in the way of their lickspittle servility.
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layman
 
  -4  
Tue 2 Jan, 2018 05:25 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
The running dogs can read the handwriting on the wall, eh? Trump is backing this ****.

Not long ago he was praising the great iranian people while condemning the Mullahs who run the country. He aint stupid.


Yeah, what this guy says, eh?:

Quote:
HOW TRUMP SAW THE IRAN PROTESTS COMING

Months before the protests that are shaking the Islamic Republic of Iran began, President Trump stood before the entire world at the United Nations and boldly declared that the terror regime would fall.

“The good people of Iran want change, and, other than the vast military power of the United States, that Iran’s people are what their leaders fear the most,” he correctly predicted. “The longest-suffering victims of Iran’s leaders are, in fact, its own people,” he pointed out.

“Oppressive regimes cannot endure forever, and the day will come when the Iranian people will face a choice. Will they continue down the path of poverty, bloodshed, and terror? Or will the Iranian people return to the nation’s proud roots as a center of civilization, culture, and wealth where their people can be happy and prosperous once again?” he challenged.

When the protests began, CNN and other media outlets were caught reprinting regime propaganda. After Obama’s deal, the media had cut loose its opposition sources. Instead it cultivated regime sources who told the media exactly what it wanted to hear: The deal was working. The regime was becoming more moderate. The economy was booming. Yemen was starving because of the Saudi attacks. Hezbollah could become moderate if we only reached out to it. The Iranian people were happy. Trump’s pressure would only unite Iranians against America.

Obama and his cronies had turned our media into Iran’s media. And when the protests began, the media quoted Iranian government sources while ignoring the protesters fighting and dying in the streets. Those shameful early days were the legacy of the echo chamber that Obama’s cronies had used to sell the deal.

When President Trump made it clear that he didn’t care about salvaging the Iran Deal, the Supreme Leader lost the radioactive card that he had been playing so successfully against Obama. Trump took away Iran’s biggest hostage. The author of the Art of the Deal threw it away.

Trump signaled that the sanctions were coming back and that the free ride was over. And that it was up to the Iranian people to decide if they wanted to live this way. And if they made the right decision, America would stand with them. It was only a matter of time until the protests reached critical mass.

While the media is still grappling with events in Iran, President Trump continues to lead the way. "The people are finally getting wise as to how their money and wealth is being stolen and squandered on terrorism. Looks like they will not take it any longer,” President Trump tweeted.


https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268900/how-trump-saw-iran-protests-coming-daniel-greenfield

layman
 
  -4  
Tue 2 Jan, 2018 05:45 am
@layman,
I guess it's only natural for panty-waisted, hand-wringing, doomsday-predicting, cheese-eating cowards to fully support any and all appeasement that they ignorantly believe will secure "peace in our time," eh? It's in their blood.

Obama was Chamberlain, Trump is Churchill. This aint gunna end well for the repressive, terror-fomenting theocracy in Iran, eh?

Winston Churhill wrote:
“You ask, What is our policy? I will say; "It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all our strength.” You ask, What is our aim? I can answer with one word: Victory - victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be.”
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hightor
 
  6  
Tue 2 Jan, 2018 05:58 am
@layman,
Trump wrote:
Oppressive regimes cannot endure forever, and the day will come when the Iranian people will face a choice. Will they continue down the path of poverty, bloodshed, and terror? Or will the Iranian people return to the nation’s proud roots as a center of civilization, culture, and wealth where their people can be happy and prosperous once again?

My first question is, who wrote this for him? It doesn't sound like anything he'd come up with himself. You always know when he's reading off a teleprompter or reciting some prepared announcement — he sounds like a completely different person.

But on a more serious note, it will be interesting to see how this plays out and contrast it with the phony "Arab Spring" of a few years back. It's all fine for Western leaders to praise the people of Iran and encourage them to rebel against their government, but are we prepared to offer them material aid? If we see the Revolutionary Guard slaughtering demonstrators in the streets or rounding them up for wholesale imprisonment are we going to do anything to stop it? Of course not. Ask the citizens of Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Syria and Bahrain.

Encouraging people to risk their lives from an armchair in a plush office ten thousand miles away is not leadership, it's posturing. And I condemn Obama for doing much the same, although at least he sounded sincere when he spoke about it. Another ugly example was when Bush I allowed Saddam Hussein to persecute domestic rebellions in southern Iraq after having promised them protection after the conclusion of the first Gulf War.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 2 Jan, 2018 07:16 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
At first, the primary object of the protests was the impoverishment of the Iranian people. But that quickly got linked to a demand for an end to theocracy, which is, after all, the real root cause of their problems.
At first, hundreds of Iranians demonstrated against the country's poor economic conditions, especially unemployment and high prices. The demonstrations began in the second-largest Iranian city of Mashhad in the north-east of the country, then spread to other cities and have also reached the capital Tehran.
Meanwhile, the protests are also directed against the oppression by the Iranian regime.

The groups of demonstrators is very diverse, consisting of conservatives, Liberals and general critics of the regime.
The concrete demands of the demonstrators therefore diverge widely: in part they demand the reintroduction of the monarchy, in part more women's rights or the end of the Middle East policy. In Kermanshah, the demonstrators protested because they felt abandoned by the government as a result of a severe earthquake in the region. And some of the student demonstrators are just like the students elsewhere.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Tue 2 Jan, 2018 07:28 am
@layman,
layman wrote:
Aint nobody likes them muthafukkaz.
I have no idea what "muthafukkaz" means.
But I wasn't really surprised, when I'd heard and seen that conservatives demonstrated against the actual government: it's far too liberal for them.
 

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