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Clarence Thomas stands out from that crowd in that Anita Hill was a nutcase who was obviously fabricating untrue accusations.

Although the feminists' outrageous lynching of Thomas did have the benefit of embittering him towards the left and motivating him to make every single opinion that he writes as far to the right as he possibly can.

Inasmuch as the modern right has gone along with the Trump campaign colluding with Russia to interfere with the election and even worse gone along with the lies and cover up and obstruction, he is right, it is not just a Trump campaign/administration issue but the modern right as well.

I just saw live on MSNBC news Mueller issued a subpoena for Trump campaign's Russia-related documents in October.

Where do you any of ya'll think this will eventually lead?

I agree completely. I may be guilty of jumping on a bandwagon, but I found it particular disturbing (even more than his slimy pressuring her to practice sex scenes he wrote) was his groping her while she was asleep. I have heard he apologized, but to me, usually where there is one such instance, there is a pattern of such behavior.

I hope a lesson learned from all these sexual acts disclosers is women in the future will not be afraid to speak out for fear of not being believed and men will not do it in the first place knowing it will be exposed and perhaps consequences will result from it. Or maybe, men will just realize how it hurts women and men (Spacey) for far longer than any gratification they get from doing it. Hope springs eternal I guess.

No. Damn, you're not very bright.

Most of these allegations have probably passed the statues of limitations, so we are not really talking about laws as much as being fit for the office they are either in and campaigning for.

Also, there are different laws which applies to minors as well consequences. In the case of Moore, more than likely the statues of limitations has ran out. Voters can decide if they think a man who will sexually assault minors is fit for office.

Franklin has owned up to his transgression and has apologized. Other than that, I am not sure legally, there is anything else which can happen to him. The ethics board (whatever to call in congress) can look at his case and decide.

Moore has not owned up to the allegations against him nor has he apologized to the women involved who were under-aged at the time of the incidents. If I lived in Alabama, I wouldn't have voted for him even before this came to light, much less after. I think he is going to lose. My prediction anyway.

In polling, Moore was ahead of Democrat Doug Jones, then just after Moore's past came out it was even, now Jones is well ahead of Moore. So it looks like Moore is going to lose.

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I think it's going to lead to Trump absconding to Russia to avoid Federal and state prosecution, followed by the debut of Trump's new program on the RT network: "I Tried To Stop The New World Order But They Impeached Me Instead".

Cynicism pops up pretty regularly as well. I wish I could believe that things will change but somehow I doubt it.

Meanwhile there's that hideous tax bill, a major oil spill on the Keystone Pipeline, the Mueller investigation, and a host of problems that might actually be resolved. I suspect that unwholesome sexual relations will continue to plague modern civilization, the same way that bullying, racial prejudice, and homophobia will always be with us.

Well, I am hoping for a different outcome on the sexual harassment issues. If it does not, I would really ashamed of those in power who do not clean up their act.

On the tax bill, it is hideous and so obviously geared towards the richest among us and actually hurts the rest of us, if it passes, it will be worse than Trump being president.

I am really curious about how the whole Mueller investigation will unfold or if there will be any conclusion and resolutions at the end of it. I somehow don't think we will be so fortunate as to have Trump run away or impeached. If we did, we would still have Pence but at least there would be some consequences for the actions the Trump campaign engaged in and tried to cover up afterwards.

Not aware of any oil spill. I am not completely against the oil industry so I guess that is one of the areas I differ. I think there should be regulations and safe guards and drilling not done on lands which harm the environment or risk endangered animals or any animals. I do think it a waste not to seriously put money on alternative energy sources and research. But on the whole, I am not a big anti oil industry person.

yup - this hit the Canadian news pretty hard last night

no one's surprised about the spill, no one's particularly surprised it's not getting more US coverage - more like ongoing resignation about what's happening south of the border

It's getting more traction here. I also don't know why anyone is surprised as these things leak all the damn time.

Which is of course why the idea of building one over the Ogalla aquifer is so ******* stupid...

Cycloptichorn

Trump lifts ban on ivory trophies

Re: the current Senate tax bill,

I still have a very hard time seeing this thing pass, even though the GOP's hopes next year basically rely upon them doing something. The problems with the bill are many and numerous and I won't go into them here, but suffice it to say that it's VERY unpopular with the public and is just a real mess all around.

In terms of vote counts, the Republicans can't afford to lose three senators as no Dem is going to vote for this giveaway to the wealthy. So far, we have:

- Corker, who has stated he won't vote for this bill because it adds to the deficit for no good reason. Not running for re-election so they have zero levers on him
- Ron Johnson, who has said he's a no because this bill doesn't help 'small businesses'
- Collins, who hasn't said she won't vote but has said she's leaning no because of a variety of reasons, including proposed changes to the ACA in order to fund tax breaks for the wealthy
- Murkowski, who today says that she can't vote for it unless another bill is passed into law first (which isn't going to happen)
- McCain, who has said that he won't vote for any bill that isn't created in 'regular order' which this one sure as **** isn't. Not running for re-election and currently dying of brain cancer, so they have zero levers on him
- Flake, who has said that he doesn't want to vote for any bill that adds to the deficit, though he's not a solid no yet. Not running for re-election so they have zero levers on him
- Mike Lee and Rubio have complained that the bill hurts families, which is totally accurate as it does. But they'll vote for it anyway in the end because both are party hacks

Not only does this bill face major hurdles in the Senate, even if it's passed there it still has to Reconciliation and be Reconciled with the House version. This is going to be pretty difficult as there are major differences between the two bills, not the least of which being the SALT exemptions in the House bill which don't occur in the Senate one; and the fact that the Senate bill actually sunsets ALL the middle-class tax cuts over time, which is politically deadly.

I think they're really fucked on this one. I just have a hard time seeing this thing happen. And now they're in a huge rush, as the special election in AL is looking awful shaky.

Cycloptichorn

For those here who are so obviously ignorant, the tu quoque fallacy is a form of argumentum ad hominem in which one excuses one's moral failings by pointing to the moral failings of one's opponent(s). So, saying sauce for the goose makes sauce for the gander is actually a refutation of that fallacy. If it's bad when Plump does it, it's bad when Franken does it.

That was tissue of ignorance and straw man fallacies. Your already poor rhetorical skills are deteriorating.