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Builder
 
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Wed 8 Nov, 2017 07:44 pm
@hightor,
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This is the first time I've heard this really great idea.


His proposal simply sees the democratic process, further removed from the people.

Why are you thinking it's a great idea?

In other news, the Chinese hierarchy have welcomed Donald and Melania with honours.

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President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump are being treated like royalty on their first official visit to China.

Trump and his wife were granted a rare dinner at the Forbidden City, an honor that has not been bestowed on a foreign leader since the founding of the People’s Republic of China 68 years ago.

The president and first lady arrived in China, the third leg of Trump’s two-week Asia tour, Wednesday afternoon. After landing in Beijing, Trump and Melania toured the Forbidden City with Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife Peng Liyuan.


Sounds like China's admin doesn't share the views of the left in the US of A.

source
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Builder
 
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Wed 8 Nov, 2017 08:04 pm
Further to my recent disclosure about the Clinton-Saudi connection, it seems like America's media mogul Rupert Mudrock is now in damage control, after losing the support of disgraced Saudi prince Prince Alwaleed bin Talal.

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A 21st Century Fox spokesman would not comment on reports that the Prince had sold most of his stake through his company, Kingdom Holdings, but Fairfax Media can confirm the Prince sold his 5 per cent voting stake in the company more than a year ago.

The sale provides the opening investors have been looking for to unstitch the share structure which gives the Murdochs 38 per cent of the voting stock in the company despite owning just 14 per cent of it.


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Setanta
 
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Wed 8 Nov, 2017 08:49 pm
That's a big non sequitur.

As President Plump is the subject of this thread, here's a piece from The Atlantic:

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Under normal circumstances, such a perfect storm of political defeat and perceived disrespect likely would have occasioned a Trumpian tantrum. And, indeed, there were hints of that in a tweet the president wrote (embracing his new 280-character limit) Tuesday night distancing himself from Virginia’s vanquished Republican gubernatorial candidate: “Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!”


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Builder
 
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Wed 8 Nov, 2017 08:55 pm
@Setanta,
Try as you might, Canuckster, there's no denying the connection between what happened, and what is happening right about now.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/05/alwaleed-bin-talal-arrest-mohammed-bin-salman-and-trump-connection.html
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Setanta
 
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Wed 8 Nov, 2017 10:43 pm
This is interesting . . . could Plump's handlers actually teach him the rudimentary skills of a statesman?

Trump Bucks Usual Aggression, Opens The Door To Negotiations With North Korea
“We will offer a path to a much better future," Trump said before South Korea's National Assembly
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roger
 
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Wed 8 Nov, 2017 11:09 pm
@BillW,
BillW wrote:



Funny that during hunting season, a person has to put a duck plug in their shotgun so they can't kill to many ducks in one family group; but, we don't limit assault weapon magazine capacity. Why, because it just wouldn't be right to limit mass murders' limits?


That plug is required by international treaty and applies to migratory birds, not ducks in particular. You can wipe out entire families and flocks of quail (if quail form flocks). They don't migrate, or at least don't cross America's borders with Canada or Mexico. Crows, on the other hand, benefit from plugged shotgun magazines because they are migratory.

There now! Wasn't that interesting?
BillW
 
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Wed 8 Nov, 2017 11:17 pm
@roger,
Yes Roger, kinda proves my point - we care more for migratory birds than people.
oralloy
 
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Wed 8 Nov, 2017 11:45 pm
@BillW,
Good grief, liberals are so deranged!

This is almost as weird as a couple years ago when one of the nutty liberals here tried to get me to comment on the approximate age that a human child would transition from CXP1 to CXP2.

Game laws are rules set down for the legal hunting of animals. We don't have game laws for shooting at humans because it is not legal to hunt humans.

Can't we just ship all the liberals down to Guantanamo?
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Builder
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 12:33 am
@BillW,
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we care more for migratory birds than people.


The former are under threat of extinction.

In supporting a neoliberal agenda in US foreign policy, you're complicit in the deaths of millions of people you've never had a problem with personally.
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Builder
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 01:09 am
Interesting twist on the role of Special Counsel Mueller and the Russian "affair". As usual, things aren't always as they might seem.

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So the investigation is steering straight for the real guilty actors and Tony Podesta is under the gun for The Podesta Group’s involvement with selling the country’s Uranium to Russia. This will lead to the indictments of his brother, John, Clinton’s former campaign manager, and, yes, Hillary too! Now if Mueller wasn’t going after Tony, why did he step down as CEO of his company last week? Multiple sources have confirmed to me Podesta is one of the 17 sealed indictments currently sitting in DC.

Other guilty swamp creatures are catching on to the true nature of Mueller’s investigation. On Oct. 30, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi issued a call for an independent investigation into Trump’s alleged campaign collusion with Russians just moments after Mueller unsealed indictments for campaign operatives Paul Manafort and Rick Gates. She’s also softened her tone from calling for Trump’s impeachment to now stating “impeaching Trump is not someplace we should go”.

Last week, top Democrats Elizabeth Warren and Donna Brazile threw Clinton under the bus by admitting she rigged the primary against Bernie Sanders. Why would they do this now? They’re distancing themselves from Clinton for a reason.


Rest of the story is here.
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 01:49 am
Trump is such a coward , slagging people off behind their backs only to go into brownnose mode when he meets them in person.

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US President Donald Trump has lavished praise on Chinese leader Xi Jinping, a marked contrast to his previous criticism of China on the flashpoint issues of North Korea and trade.
But he also urged Mr Xi to "work very hard" on persuading North Korea to denuclearise.
On China's trade surplus, Mr Trump surprised many when he said he did "not blame China" for "taking advantage".
The US president was speaking in Beijing while on a state visit.
He is in the Chinese capital as part of his five-nation tour of Asia. The two leaders held talks earlier on Thursday after a grand welcome for Mr Trump.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-41924228
izzythepush
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 02:21 am
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The United States has lost 60% of its career ambassadors since January, according to the head of the labour union that represents US diplomats.
"Leadership ranks are being depleted at a dizzying speed," Barbara Stephenson, head of the American Foreign Service Association (AFSA) chief, wrote.
Ms Stephenson, a former ambassador to Panama, says there has been a "decapitation" of top talent.
The BBC has asked the Department of State for a comment.
"The rapid loss of so many senior officers has a serious, immediate, and tangible effect on the capacity of the United States to shape world events," Ms Stephenson writes.
The former ambassador to Panama writes in a forthcoming issue of the Foreign Service Journal that the art of diplomacy must be defended under an administration that she argues appears bent on "dismantling government as we know it".
This letter is the latest cry of distress from diplomatic veterans warning about the "mounting threats" to the State Department.
They say that the exodus of disillusioned top career officers is depriving the institution of decades of diplomatic experience.
And that the freeze on lower level hiring will weaken it in the future. Then there is the slow pace of political appointments to crucial jobs.
That has picked up lately but it's been hindered by the small pool of qualified personnel: President Trump refuses anyone who opposed his candidacy, and most of the Republican foreign policy establishment did.
Mr Tillerson is in the midst of reorganising and streamlining the department. Previously he's rejected claims that a staffing crisis is affecting the institution, listing the many international issues on which he's working and naming the career diplomats on whom he relies for help.
All of which leaves Ms Stephenson to wonder darkly about who's behind the alleged impetus to "weaken the American Foreign Service."
As well as envoys, the staff numbers of other high-ranking diplomatic ministers have fallen, reports the organisation, which was founded in 1924.
Mrs Stephenson writes that the decisions by career diplomats (who, unlike political appointees, do not change with every White House administration) was fuelled in part by the government's decision to "slash promotion numbers by more than half".
A hiring freeze has also led to a drop in entry level staffers joining the US agency tasked with worldwide diplomacy.
"The talent being shown the door now is not only our top talent, but also talent that cannot be replicated overnight," Mrs Stephenson writes.
She adds that if such an exodus were to occur within military ranks, "I would expect a public outcry".
Mrs Stephenson also points to Congress' opposition to such drastic cuts to the department, saying the Senate has labelled doing so "a doctrine of retreat".
In her scathing editorial, she questions "Why such a focus on decapitating leadership? How do these actions serve the stated agenda of making the State Department stronger?
"Where is the mandate to pull the Foreign Service team from the field and forfeit the game to our adversaries?"
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright - who was a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton - told MSBNC on Wednesday that she is "deeply, deeply troubled" by the lack of staffing, "because you cannot be a major power in the world and not have a functioning diplomatic service".
A year after President Donald Trump's election, there are no nominees for scores of unfilled senior posts at the Department of State, according to the tracker by the Washington Post and Partnership for Public Service.
Last week Mr Trump was asked about the vacancies at the US foreign affairs ministry.
"I'm the only one that matters," he replied.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/41921907
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izzythepush
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 05:51 am
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Dismissed by the White House as a "low-level volunteer", more about the true status of adviser George Papadopoulos seems to emerge by the day.
The Trump campaign foreign policy aide's contacts with Russians have already got him in trouble. He has admitted lying to the FBI about them.
But it is now revealed he also met a British Foreign Office official, two months before the US presidential election, for a "working level" meeting.
"As you would expect in the run up to an election we seek to build links with figures in both the Democratic and Republican presidential campaigns," a Foreign and Commonwealth Office spokeswoman told the BBC, confirming the meeting. "This type of outreach is normal diplomatic business."
While such meetings may be routine diplomacy, the fact that Papadopoulos was presenting himself to the government of one of the US's closest allies as a representative of the Trump campaign undercuts the White House's recent assertion that Papadopoulos was a campaign volunteer of little importance.
Mr Trump himself tweeted the following day that "few people knew the young, low level volunteer named George, who has already proven to be a liar".
The White House has not yet responded to inquiries from the BBC for comment on the matter.
We don't know whether Papadopoulos was operating in an official capacity for the Trump campaign or simply presenting himself that way without prior approval. Given that through much of 2016 the Trump team operated on a shoestring budget, with little in the way of traditional campaign hierarchy or structure, the latter is entirely possible.
When it comes down to it, however, the British government apparently treated him with the type of deference due to a top-level political adviser.
Word of the Papadopoulos sit-down in London was first reported by Scott Stedman, a California university student, in a post on the website Medium. He writes that the Trump adviser met "an unidentified, high-ranking member of the UK's department that handles foreign affairs".
According to the indictment papers released by the independent counsel investigation into possible Trump campaign ties to Russia, Papadopoulos was in regular communication with high-level Trump campaign officials during much of 2016.
After being named by Mr Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers on 21 March, Papadopoulos attended a 31 March Washington, DC meeting with the candidate, then-Senator Jeff Sessions (now US attorney general) and other members of Mr Trump's national security team.
In April, per the independent counsel's office, Papadopoulos communicated with a London-based professor, Joseph Mifsud, who introduced him via email to a Russian national with "connection to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs".
Mifsud subsequently informed Papadopoulos that the Russian government had "dirt" on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton through "thousands" of her emails.
Papadopoulos, with the blessing of Trump campaign co-chair Sam Clovis, would later explore the possibility of visiting Russia for an "off the record" meeting with Russian officials. He never did.
It seems, however, he had more success getting a face-to-face sit-down with the British government.
"It was extremely limited," White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said on 30 October, when questioned about Papadopoulos's role in the Trump campaign. "It was a volunteer position. And again, no activity was ever done in an official capacity on behalf of the campaign. He was a volunteer on the campaign."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41892373<br />
blatham
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 05:57 am
@BillW,
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Yes Roger, kinda proves my point - we care more for migratory birds than people.

And least of all for migratory people.
snood
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 06:16 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Trump is such a coward , slagging people off behind their backs only to go into brownnose mode when he meets them in person.


Even more galling than that - the sumbitches mind might be so weak/twisted that he believes both sides of his own lying face.

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blatham
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 06:38 am
TPM has a rather funny piece up on Fox coverage on Tuesday night. Here's a Hannity tweet earlier in the evening at 5:26
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Sean Hannity ✔@seanhannity
Tonight on #Hannity we will cover President Trump’s speech in South Korea and election results with @SebGorka, @AmbJohnBolton, @peterschweizer, @MonicaCrowley, @GreggJarrett and more
5:26 PM - Nov 7, 2017

Then Hannity gave all of 6 seconds to the results. Ingraham gave a mention to Gillespie's loss then brought up (get ready for it) Clinton emails. Link Here


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blatham
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 07:40 am
Those paying attention will have noticed that Fox (like the WSJ editorial page) is now going full-bore into a stance that could be described as, "Trump, great leader, is always right, and is always under vicious attack from the MSM who never question Hillary's criminality". This was not always the case.
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“It’s quite a significant pivot. For people who believe Fox has always been pro-Trump, they miss the significance of how hard the shift has been in the last 18 months,” Sykes said. “Fox is really turning itself very self-consciously into virtually a house organ of the Trump administration.”

Particularly noteworthy, he said, was the network’s recent embrace of Hillary Clinton-related stories that seem designed to deflect attention from special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

So, why the change in strategy and programming? What's up with Murdoch? This Politico piece helps make sense of what's going on.
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Fox, facing new competitors, clings tighter to Trump
The network that sparred with him as a candidate now rarely questions him.
It's a good thesis. Fox is Murdoch's most profitable enterprise and he certainly doesn't want this cash cow to suffer or disappear as other right wing media entities pull his audience away from Fox.

But I suspect there's another element in this. Whereas before, both the WSJ and Fox were very mixed, even critical, of candidate Trump, their present and transparent propagandist mode may well arise from fears that Trump is in the process of seriously hurting the GOP's future electoral chances.
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revelette1
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 07:44 am
@izzythepush,
I am about to give you unsolicited advice, I know it will rub you the wrong way but...

Do you think when you copy and paste and you notice that the format copies paragraphs without spaces, you could try to go in and put the spaces into the pasted piece? You usually always have good timely information, but it is hard to read it without the proper format. Just saying.
blatham
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 07:47 am
@revelette1,
To izzy
Rev's point is a good one. It would help in the reading.
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snood
 
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Thu 9 Nov, 2017 07:47 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:

I am about to give you unsolicited advice, I know it will rub you the wrong way but...

Do you think when you copy and paste and you notice that the format copies paragraphs without spaces, you could try to go in and put the spaces into the pasted piece? You usually always have good timely information, but it is hard to read it without the proper format. Just saying.


I concur. They are usually very good information, but hard to sort through.
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