BTW, I think we would be better served if the moderate/centrist middle pulled out of both parties, combining into a new, more powerful, winning party! I could care less what the two, destructive extreme arms of each party does. The new party could easily, by itself, be 50% of the population?
Back to Russia, best proof things are going against tRump? Timelines, everything is lining up in a nice neat order against him.
Why is tRump implicated? RICO, Mueller will prove that tRump's businesses are a criminal organization, which will prove his campaign was a criminal organization, which will prove his administration is a criminal organization. This is linked because his stupidity was to place his crime family and actual family (who are many of the criminals) in all three. What happens in RICO cases, the king pin falls. That is why they created the laws to begin with. FBI couldn't get anything on the kingpin, but they could prove everything about him is criminal family, therefore, he must be guilty too.
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BillW
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Fri 3 Nov, 2017 03:28 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
A few days without a toad?
I'd rather be a toad which is someone's disillusioned hyperbolic imagination that a really true White Supremacist. I would kill myself first! Every apologist of a White Supremacist is a White Supremacist themself!
Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) is firing back at President Trump over his push for the Justice Department to investigate Democrats and Hillary Clinton.
“President Trump's pressuring of the Justice Department and FBI to pursue cases against his adversaries and calling for punishment before trials take place are totally inappropriate," Corker said in a statement.
He added that the president's remarks "not only undermine our justice system but erode the American people’s confidence in our institutions.”
I don't agree with Corker on 'most anything but he has more balls than 9/10 elected Republicans these days, who seem content to let Trump absolutely destroy our societal norms and damage our country, while saying absolutely nothing negative about it out of fear.
Cycloptichorn
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Finn dAbuzz
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Fri 3 Nov, 2017 03:58 pm
@BillW,
Who called you a toad?
I notice you are quite willing to accept the designation but no one bestowed it.
I called you a "toad licker"
You've called me a "White Supremacist."
Irony doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
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ehBeth
3
Fri 3 Nov, 2017 04:27 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
we haven't fucked our environment anywhere nearly as bad as they have. Not even close.
neither Canada nor the US are making the massive turn-around on the environment that China is
China’s efforts to cut their carbon emissions have been heavily responsible for the remarkable “decoupling” of emissions from economic growth—a relationship where, as the global economy grows, global carbon emissions do not grow with it.
it's embarrassing
they're also making pretty good movement on the universal health care (with private insurance layered on top) front.
Neighbours on both sides of us came here from China - all of their families are still there. Interesting to get updates from them in these areas.
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this is a decent piece on the changes in China re the environment (probably should be another thread eh)
It's easy to have a big turnaround when you start in a giant hole. Any improvement looks great.
I'm glad they're working on the issue and taking it seriously, but let's not pretend the US is anywhere near as polluted. I'll say this, if they keep cleaning things up at the current rate, they'll pass us soon enough though
Turns out there was language inserted in the House tax bill that defines an embryo as a 'human being' and grants them rights.
Cycloptichorn
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blatham
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Fri 3 Nov, 2017 04:40 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
I'll disagree pretty strongly here. I think looking at the official opposition parties over past 25 years shows more than two significant parties.
It's a fair point though it is the case that the two parties I noted did dominate federally over the last 100 years or so.
But my point was slightly different. I wanted to describe how powerful mercantile interests (perhaps allied with some other interest groups) will inevitably organize around a viable party structure in order to influence policy. If the GOP somehow collapsed, a new creature much the same would almost certainly replace it.
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BillW
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Fri 3 Nov, 2017 04:42 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
It's easy to have a big turnaround when you start in a giant hole. Any improvement looks great.
I'm glad they're working on the issue and taking it seriously, but let's not pretend the US is anywhere near as polluted. I'll say this, if they keep cleaning things up at the current rate, they'll pass us soon enough though
Cycloptichorn
To add to this, regardless of tRump executive orders, a lot of Obama era actions are still being followed. Mainly because of large expenditure previously made to achieve goals, but still being done, and accomplishing positive results - as you mentioned!
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oralloy
0
Fri 3 Nov, 2017 04:52 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
My posts are red, and yours are mauve. Answers in black.
Why do people do that? You're not the only one.
The normal quoting system works quite well. Untangling a post where each voice is designated by color is just a big headache.
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ehBeth
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Fri 3 Nov, 2017 04:54 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I'll say this, if they keep cleaning things up at the current rate, they'll pass us soon enough though
my neighbours say that based on the photos from home they're seeing, they think it's going to happen just that way
a dance pal moved to Northern China about a year ago from northern British Columbia (about as pristine a location as there is). she claims to have seen a difference in China within the year.
when the Chinese take something on ... get outta the way
Well, this news is somewhat surprising.
Trump administration report: 'no convincing alternative explanation' for climate change (WP)
I'm surprised that they left the report basically untouched. My guess would be that they believe that right wing media will continue to behave as before (this report will not be covered on Fox or on talk radio or at a myriad of other such entities or if it is, the coverage will be overwhelmed by the standard tricks they use). And I expect this administration believes, with fair reason, that this report will be quickly forgotten.
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oralloy
-3
Fri 3 Nov, 2017 05:00 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
The midterms are the focus, not the next presidential election. If Dems get a majority in congress and the senate, they can impeach and convict. A big if, sure, but still the midterms - not 2020.
There is no question that the average Democrat would happily convict an innocent person for political gain, but the notion that the Democrats would ever get enough seats to convict without Republican votes is a pipe dream.
Would they even get enough seats to convict if they won every single Senate race in 2018?
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oralloy
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Fri 3 Nov, 2017 05:05 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
So this thread is exclusively dedicated to "hordes of progressives who scream helplessly at the sky to protest Donald Trump’s election", to paraphrase the LA Times. Got it.
Mostly yes. And also a platform for blatham to posture as an intellectual.
