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oralloy
 
  -4  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 05:03 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Well, yes, there is.

No. When there is no good reason for banning something, there is nothing reasonable about banning it.


hightor wrote:
You don't see pistol grips on single shot rifles or classic semi-auto hunting arms. This is because accurate sighting is done with the stock raised to one's shoulder.

No. It is because pistol grips are a recent invention and thus not part of a "classic" design.

Note that accurate sighting is still done with the stock raised to one's shoulder even with pistol grips.


hightor wrote:
With a pistol grip and a large clip magazine, the shooter can basically spray lead from the hip as fast as he can pull the trigger. This is inherently unsafe, especially given the mentality of the wannabe Rambos who are so susceptible to marketing gimmicks by gun manufacturers.

Unaimed shooting is a whole lot safer than aimed shooting, at least if you are the person being aimed at.

Further, if one is inclined to shoot without aiming, that can be done using guns that do not have pistol grips. There is no requirement that a gun have a pistol grip before someone can fire without aiming.

The fact that gun banners propose a misuse of pistol grips that will render a gun ineffective is not in any way a reason for banning pistol grips.
Walter Hinteler
 
  6  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 05:31 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
No. It is because pistol grips are a recent invention and thus not part of a "classic" design.
1836 (or even earlier) is recent for you? (there had been some rifles with pistol grips auctioned in the last few years - manufactured based on the inventions of Henri-Gustave Delvigne [see: Exposé d'un nouveau système d'armement pour l'infanterie (1836)])
hightor
 
  6  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 05:40 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Unaimed shooting is a whole lot safer than aimed shooting, at least if you are the person being aimed at.

That's a great argument. I'm sure the friends and family of dead innocent bystanders will understand and accept it readily.
Quote:
Further, if one is inclined to shoot without aiming, that can be done using guns that do not have pistol grips.

Of course. You can shoot a gun with your eyes closed for that matter. Pistol grips encourage inaccurate shooting by people who aren't interested in taking the time to aim properly.
blatham
 
  6  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 06:24 am
Quote:
Rosanne Cash: Country Musicians, Stand Up to the N.R.A.

...For the past few decades, the National Rifle Association has increasingly nurtured an alliance with country music artists and their fans. You can see it in “N.R.A. Country,” which promotes the artists who support the philosophical, and perhaps economic, thrall of the N.R.A., with the pernicious tag line “Celebrate the Lifestyle.”

That wholesome public relations veneer masks something deeply sinister and profoundly destructive. There is no other way to say this: The N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.
NYT
revelette1
 
  5  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 06:35 am
@blatham,
Quote:
There is no other way to say this: The N.R.A. funds domestic terrorism.


Powerful statement, provocative but accurate. Read the following about how much damage a modified semiautomatic weapons can cause.

As the wounded kept coming, hospitals dealt with injuries rarely seen in the U.S. (WP)

Shooter used a ‘bump stock,’ which allows a semiautomatic rifle to fire more quickly (WSJ)



blatham
 
  7  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 06:40 am
One of the fine, patriotic white folks
Quote:
Jason Kessler, Charlottesville protest organizer, indicted on a charge of perjury

The main organizer behind the deadly white nationalist rally in Charlottesville has been indicted on a count of felony perjury stemming from his conviction on a misdemeanor assault charge earlier this year.

Court records show that on Monday a grand jury in Albemarle County, Va., indicted Jason Kessler, a 34-year-old blogger who planned the “Unite the Right” rally in August that sparked violence in the city and left one woman dead.

..Kessler alleged that on Jan. 22, James Justin Taylor attacked him on the outdoor mall while he was collecting signatures to remove the city’s vice-mayor from office. Kessler swore out an assault complaint, claiming Taylor grabbed him and violently shook his arm, according to the local station WCAV.

But surveillance video later showed that Kessler was the aggressor, as the Daily Progress reported. .
WP
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blatham
 
  4  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 06:46 am
@revelette1,
You are just politicizing what weapons like this do to actual living human children, adolescents, moms and dads, uncles and grandmothers and friends.
revelette1
 
  5  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 06:53 am
@blatham,
Quote:
You are just politicizing what weapons like this do to actual living human children, adolescents, moms and dads, uncles and grandmothers and friends.



Good Wink
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revelette1
 
  5  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 06:57 am
Taibbi: The Gun Lobby Is Down to Its Last, Unconvincing Excuse (Rolling Stone)

Quote:
"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," NRA chief Wayne LaPierre infamously said after Newtown.

But the shooter in Las Vegas, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, was on the 32nd floor of a casino building, a quarter-mile away from the bulk of his victims down in a concert venue on the ground. Unless the NRA plans on advocating for carry licenses for F-16s or surface-to-surface missile systems, it's hard to see how the "good guy with a gun" argument is going to fly this time.
blatham
 
  6  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 07:45 am
I love these people sooooo much.
Quote:
Anti-abortion rep reportedly asked mistress to get an abortion
Rep. Tim Murphy (R-Pa.) has long been a far-right culture warrior, especially on matters related to reproductive rights, but he’s also been kind of odd about it. Evidently, it’s worse than we realized.

About a month ago, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette prevailed in a court motion to unseal a divorce action and uncovered evidence that the Pennsylvania Republican had an extramarital affair with a personal friend. Confronted with the proof, Murphy admitted that he’d cheated on his wife.

Yesterday, the Post-Gazette published a related report, noting that after Murphy published an anti-abortion statement to his Facebook account, his former mistress sent him a text message calling him out for hypocrisy.

Quote:
“And you have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options,” Shannon Edwards, a forensic psychologist in Pittsburgh with whom the congressman admitted last month to having a relationship, wrote to Mr. Murphy on Jan. 25, in the midst of an unfounded pregnancy scare.

A text from Mr. Murphy’s cell phone number that same day in response says, “I get what you say about my March for life messages. I’ve never written them. Staff does them. I read them and winced. I told staff don’t write any more. I will.”

The congressman has been lauded by the Family Research Council, for his stance on abortion, as well as for family values, generally. He also has been endorsed by LifePAC, which opposes abortion rights, and is a member of the House Pro-Life Caucus, an affiliation that is often cited by his office.


The Washington Post added that just days after he talked to his then-mistress about having an abortion, Murphy issued multiple public statement condemning abortion.
Benen
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Olivier5
 
  3  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 07:48 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Olivier5 wrote:
The NRA makes these mass murder possible in the first place. They share the guilt.

Nonsense.

What is it about my post that you don't understand? The NRA is guilty of empowering murderers. Instead of doing the next mass murder in a school or in a concert, let's have it at an NRA meeting. That will make a lot of good.
cameronleon
 
  -3  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 07:56 am
@snood,
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This is a town hall Obama did close to the end of his presidency. He answers a gun shop owner's question. I think he explains the need for gun legislation and the NRA's chokehold on the process pretty well. But I bet the guy that asked the question wasn't penetrated by a bit of it. Please watch it and share your impressions.


My impression is that with 8 years in power, president Obama did nothing but opening his big mouth towards gun regulation.
blatham
 
  4  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 07:58 am
This short Vox video is very smart.
Don't fall for the antifa trap
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revelette1
 
  3  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 09:06 am
@snood,
From what I could tell, it wasn't closed captioned, so I can't hear it.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  -2  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 09:33 am
Excellent rebuttal of Jimmy Kimmel's passionate but error-filled speech.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452233/jimmy-kimmel-gun-control-comments-las-vegas-shooting?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=French
blatham
 
  5  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 12:30 pm
This is cute. From Politico
Quote:
“Three investigations [of Russian election involvement] is just way too many,” said Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.). “Some of them need to step back and wait until we see what evidence is educed.”

Lori Klein Corbin, a member of the Republican National Committee from Arizona, said the probes are a distraction to Trump.

“Of course, the Republican leadership is behind these probes,” she said. “The Republicans cannot get over the fact that Trump won and is our president.”


Those with functioning brain stem will recall there were 8 Benghazi investigations But note who is being blamed here - GOP leadership. If that sounds like Bannon's/Mercer's program being voiced, it is.
Quote:
Steve Bannon, Trump’s former chief strategist, crystallized the fury last week when, during a Fox News interview, he called out McConnell and Ryan by name.

“Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan have allowed three investigative committees on Capitol Hill with full subpoena power, they're going after President Trump every day,” he boomed. In a “60 Minutes” interview last month, Bannon suggested the investigations were an attempt by the Republican establishment to “nullify” the 2016 election.

Members of Trump’s base began echoing the complaints, accusing leaders in their own party of harboring secret desires to undermine the Trump agenda.


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cameronleon
 
  -3  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 12:33 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Poor Kimmel, he ignores that what happens in Las Vegas stays in Las vegas...
maporsche
 
  4  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 12:54 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,


Kimmel is offering possible solutions to gun violence in general, not just specific to these mass shootings.

That article offers zero solutions to help fix the problem. Just like GOP congressmen.
blatham
 
  3  
Wed 4 Oct, 2017 12:56 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
No, it is not excellent. It's agitprop.
Quote:
By spreading misinformation in his role as the Left’s moral authority, Jimmy Kimmel
Nothing factual or even sensible in that statement.
Quote:
And so it is with the rise of the Left’s philosopher-comedians, the men and women that the Washington Post’s James Hohmann called “prominent voices of moral authority.” Foremost among them is Jimmy Kimmel, the man who has supplanted Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert as the celebrity face of the #Resistance.
Note talking point/ad hominem "celebrity". Note the agitprop hashtag.

That's from just the subhead and first graph. At which point, I find no reason to go further in this "excellent" work.


 

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