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MontereyJack
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 01:56 pm
oralloy says:

Quote:
What story? There is a substantial difference between running your own email server and having a personal email account.


Not so much. Both handle your email, and you're not supposed to use either one to handle your government related email.
cameronleon
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 02:04 pm
Marc Anthony complaining like a woman demanding money from her man.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/09/25/marc-anthony-disses-donald-trump-puerto-rico-nfl-protests-hurricane-maria/

"Umm, priorities much? While Puerto Ricans have been dealing with catastrophic damage caused to the U.S. territory by Hurricane Maria, President Donald Trump, 71, never once had them in his Twitter thoughts. Instead, he spent much of the weekend tweeting about how NFL players who take a knee during the National Anthem are unpatriotic and demanding they be fired. Now singer Marc Anthony, 49, is taking the tycoon to task about how he’s focused on such a non-subject when there are actual REAL crises that involve devastating human suffering...."

Puerto Rico island has been a strategic area for the US in order to protect our frontiers. Also, it is a place where a great telescope was installed for studying the stars.

Food stamps and welfare were given to Puerto Rico in order to shut up their mouths and let the US to use their island.

If Marc Anthony wants someone to help "his people" I want first to see the fat check he has made to help them, a check showing that in the very next morning after the hurricane he donated lots of money for reconstructing "his island".

I have met several dudes from Puerto Rico and I can tell that they are lazy like crazy.

They mock of the help received from the US, and they have one song where they narrate how they have good food and shelter without working because they live from food stamps and welfare.

Marc Anthony is just another dude who can't say "thanks" but who -as a liberal- can't stop his own mouth from expressing his frustration that his candidate -Hillary Clinton- was demolished in the past elections.

I can see lots of messages in this forums showing dudes having the same trauma.

Use a translator and check the lyrics of this son from El Gran Combo of Puerto Rico. Its about a dude from Puerto Rico who lives without working receiving food stamps and social security.

This son is enough for to know how Marc Anthony and "his people" pretend to obtain more and more help while they themselves "won't do nothing". Lol.

Y no hago mas na'
(And I will do nothing else)




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BillW
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 02:20 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:

oralloy says:

Quote:
What story? There is a substantial difference between running your own email server and having a personal email account.


Not so much. Both handle your email, and you're not supposed to use either one to handle yousr government related email.


Actually, it is better to be on your own server due to control, with public servers, the provider controls. Of course, it also depends on your security apparatus - must be top of the line. And, still must get eMails on a government site within 20 days plus no classified eMails.

https://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/bulletins/2014/2014-06.html
BillW
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 02:43 pm
@BillW,
BTW, The "substantial difference" is that the new eMail rules did not go into effect until 2016. In for a penny, in for a pound.

BillW wrote:

MontereyJack wrote:

oralloy says:

Quote:
What story? There is a substantial difference between running your own email server and having a personal email account.


Not so much. Both handle your email, and you're not supposed to use either one to handle yousr government related email.


Actually, it is better to be on your own server due to control, with public servers, the provider controls. Of course, it also depends on your security apparatus - must be top of the line. And, still must get eMails on a government site within 20 days plus no classified eMails.

https://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/bulletins/2014/2014-06.html
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blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 03:02 pm
@Olivier5,
Apparently you aren't a fan of the lady. I won't bother arguing that with you. But this claim needs some reflection on your part..
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to lose against a candidate as weak as Trump was spectacular
She was not alone in this. Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, John Kasich, Rick Perry, Rand Paul, Lindsay Graham, Ted Cruz and others were also defeated by the "weak" candidate Trump.
wmwcjr
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 03:03 pm
@cameronleon,
Just in case someone doesn't already know, cameronleon is a Holocaust denier who perverts Gen. 9:24-27 in order to justify racial hatred against blacks, which clearly contradicts biblical teaching. Not exactly someone I'd want to be around in real life!
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blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 03:05 pm
@wmwcjr,
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I mean how greatly the political landscape has changed. I remember quite well when both parties had a left wing and a right wing.
In the seventies, I doubt there were more than a handful of campuses in the US and Canada that did not have a Marxist/Leninist cadre promoting their political ideas. That is not the case now.
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blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 03:13 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
No argument with your post, cyclo. I'd just add that the GOP, while cheering localization of decision making as the mark of democracy, are more than happy to crush local (city, county) wishes and decisions where those conflict with GOP goals. And if they could manage to push through a national ban on abortion, of course they'd jump to it.
blatham
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 03:17 pm
@ehBeth,
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#45 has been working the same routine for decades with success - for his brand - not so much any business he has ever been involved
Yes. And as you suggest, there's no concern for everyone who gets screwed in the process.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 04:18 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

No argument with your post, cyclo. I'd just add that the GOP, while cheering localization of decision making as the mark of democracy, are more than happy to crush local (city, county) wishes and decisions where those conflict with GOP goals. And if they could manage to push through a national ban on abortion, of course they'd jump to it.


Of course they are. Conservatives REALLY believe that the 'best' level of control is whichever one they happen to have at the moment. They can't count on the Federal government - the Dems win in Congress far too often for that - but they have a lot of states on lockdown due to their co-opting of the Religious Right, so they know they can just get away with **** left and right.

Just try and be a liberal city in a Conservative state and see how quickly the 'local authority' is pissed on by them...

Cycloptichorn
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MontereyJack
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 04:35 pm
@blatham,
And of course Hillary didn't lose. She got almost three million more votes than Trump. The poison pill the Founding Fathers left us in the Constitution in the form of the Electoral College is what did her in, not any appeal on Trump;s part.
Baldimo
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 04:43 pm
@MontereyJack,
Of course Hillary lost, she lost via a rule you are calling the "poison pill", the Electoral College, which was put in place to prevent a take over by large area's. I guess if Hillary would have campaigned in WI, she might have actually won the election.
BillW
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 04:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
We don't even use the methodology the Founding Fathers designed:

http://uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/INFORMATION/electcollege_history.php

"The First Design

In the first design of the Electoral College (described in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution):
Each State was allocated a number of Electors equal to the number of its U.S. Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representative (which may change each decade according to the size of each State's population as determined in the decennial census). This arrangement built upon an earlier compromise in the design of the Congress itself and thus satisfied both large and small States.
The manner of choosing the Electors was left to the individual State legislatures, thereby pacifying States suspicious of a central national government.
Members of Congress and employees of the federal government were specifically prohibited from serving as an Elector in order to maintain the balance between the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.
Each State's Electors were required to meet in their respective States rather than all together in one great meeting. This arrangement, it was thought, would prevent bribery, corruption, secret dealing, and foreign influence.
In order to prevent Electors from voting only for a "favorite son" of their own State, each Elector was required to cast two votes for president, at least one of which had to be for someone outside their home State. The idea, presumably, was that the winner would likely be everyone's second favorite choice.
The electoral votes were to be sealed and transmitted from each of the States to the President of the Senate who would then open them before both houses of the Congress and read the results.
The person with the most electoral votes, provided that it was an absolute majority (at least one over half of the total), became president. Whoever obtained the next greatest number of electoral votes became vice president - an office which they seem to have invented for the occasion since it had not been mentioned previously in the Constitutional Convention.
In the event that no one obtained an absolute majority in the Electoral College or in the event of a tie vote, the U.S. House of Representatives, as the chamber closest to the people, would choose the president from among the top five contenders. They would do this (as a further concession to the small States) by allowing each State to cast only one vote with an absolute majority of the States being required to elect a president. The vice presidency would go to whatever remaining contender had the greatest number of electoral votes. If that, too, was tied, the U.S. Senate would break the tie by deciding between the two.
In all, this was quite an elaborate design. But it was also a very clever one when you consider that the whole operation was supposed to work without political parties and without national campaigns

while maintaining the balances and satisfying the fears in play at the time. Indeed, it is probably because the Electoral College was originally designed to operate in an environment so totally different from our own that many people think it is anachronistic and fail to appreciate the new purposes it now serves. But of that, more later. "

BillW
 
  1  
Tue 26 Sep, 2017 05:12 pm
@BillW,
In a nutshell, there wasn't even a vote. Each state decided how their electors of the college would be selected and they then voted for whoever they wanted. The winner would become the President, the next highest vote getter, the Vice President.
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reasoning logic
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 05:14 pm
@blatham,
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Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, John Kasich, Rick Perry, Rand Paul, Lindsay Graham, Ted Cruz and others were also defeated by the "weak" candidate Trump.


In your own words, what does that say about these people you listed?

MontereyJack
 
  3  
Tue 26 Sep, 2017 05:24 pm
@Baldimo,
It is a poison pill.
at least three and arguably four of the five lections that the ED gave to the non-winner of the vote, were ******* disasters. And I know nmothing about the first one, so it could be five for five disasters. The current one gave us our most inept, autocratic, corrupt president ever.

Also, despite its original intentions, the EC is now tied directly to the popular vote, which it qwas originally designed to override. In 40 states, and I believe DC, the winner of the popular vote IN THAT STATE must be by law who the electors vote for. Due tolectors who represent tsenators, that means a couple states with whisker=thin popular vote margins can take ALL that state's electors, thus enabling a takeover by the minority, as happened here. The simple fix is to change the lawas so that electors have to vote for the winner of the popular vote in the whole country, not just their state As it stands noow, the main purpose of the EC seems to be to put into office Republicans that the voters rightly reject.
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MontereyJack
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 05:29 pm
@reasoning logic,
Quote:

In your own words, what does that say about these people you listed?


That they seriously underestimated the possibility of a candidate with no morals at all and no sctuples s about lying every time he opened his mouth could lie enough to win.
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Baldimo
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 05:32 pm
@reasoning logic,
Indeed, it points to neither party really putting forth the "better" candidate, if Trump beat those members of the GOP and then he beat Hillary? That says a lot about who ran and who lost, not so much about the guy who won. Please do not mix me up with a Trump voter, I voted for Gary Johnson. My heart left the GOP in 2008 when they couldn't get past the social issues (gay marriage and abortion) and when they supported the bank bailouts with "too big to fail". My vote left the GOP in 2012 when they selected Mitt Romney and he then lost to Obama. I'm really hoping that this time around the Libertarians run a better candidate, the nation is primed for a strong REAL 3rd party candidate with teh mess the Dems and GOP made of the last election, people are fed up and I believe they would vote for a 3rd party. My first Prez election was in 1992 and I voted for Perot.
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Setanta
 
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Tue 26 Sep, 2017 05:38 pm
@Baldimo,
Instead, she wasted her time in Florida, a state she had no hope of winning, and wasted the help Obama gave her, also in Florida. An Obama swing through Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania could well easily have given her the election. She ran a lazy campaign, and a stupid campaign. No amount of equivocating will change that.
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