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Blickers wrote:

I am stating that now that the IRS is joining the Mueller investigation of Trump the IRS has access to Trump's tax returns, which Trump has been guarding jealously, unlike every other presidential candidate since 1976.

IRS agents are only allowed to access tax returns with legal justification and legal authorization.

Except for the fact that nothing - literally nothing - the Democrats are doing here is illegal.

Oh, and that they aren't the ones investigating Trump - a Republican appointed by his own DoJ is.

In reality, the Dems' actions in this matter - though you may find them distasteful - are 100% consistent with the 'rule of law.'

Oh, I don't agree with this at all. There are LOTS of reasons to believe he did.

What more, enough evidence has already been revealed to justify the current investigation.

What more than that, Trump himself has lied about matters related to the Russia investigation constantly.

All while heaping praise on Putin and seeking to both a) create back-channels to talk with him that can't be tapped by our own intelligence services, and b) attempting to remove sanctions placed on Russia.

This doesn't even mention the fact that his long-time friend, who was given a free apartment in Trump tower directly below Trump, and who was his campaign manager, worked for Russian oligarchs for years and was absolutely involved in Russian money laundering and in all likelihood murder in the Ukraine.

But sure, nothing to see here, eh comrade

Good news! They have both, and so does Mueller.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Except for the fact that nothing - literally nothing - the Democrats are doing here is illegal.

Why does that matter? They are still working to produce results that are contrary to law and justice, and are doing so with malicious intent.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Oh, and that they aren't the ones investigating Trump - a Republican appointed by his own DoJ is.

Didn't I already address this point?

Cycloptichorn wrote:

In reality, the Dems' actions in this matter - though you may find them distasteful - are 100% consistent with the 'rule of law.'

I don't think unjustified criminal investigations and wrongful convictions of innocent people are consistent with the rule of law.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Oh, I don't agree with this at all. There are LOTS of reasons to believe he did.

Can you give examples of this alleged evidence of collusion?

Cycloptichorn wrote:

What more, enough evidence has already been revealed to justify the current investigation.

A legitimate criminal investigation requires some reason to believe a crime took place. Even if there were evidence of collusion, collusion isn't even remotely a crime.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

What more than that, Trump himself has lied about matters related to the Russia investigation constantly.

Most of these alleged lies about Russian contacts have turned out to not be lies once people take a closer look.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

All while heaping praise on Putin and seeking to both a) create back-channels to talk with him that can't be tapped by our own intelligence services, and b) attempting to remove sanctions placed on Russia.

This doesn't even mention the fact that his long-time friend, who was given a free apartment in Trump tower directly below Trump, and who was his campaign manager, worked for Russian oligarchs for years and was absolutely involved in Russian money laundering and in all likelihood murder in the Ukraine.

But sure, nothing to see here, eh comrade

Certainly no evidence of anything illegal on Trump's part.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Good news! They have both, and so does Mueller.

What is this legal justification for accessing Trump's private tax records?

Is this coming from a judge?

Joe Walsh. The man's a freaking genius

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Joe Walsh‏Verified account
@WalshFreedom
French rag Charlie Hebdo mocks Harvey victims as Neo Nazis

Charlie Hebdo makes fun of every one but Muslims

Cover page after the Barcelona attack:

[Islam, the religion of (eternal) peace]

The US economy added 156,000 jobs in August, less than the previous month and below expectations.
Analysts had expected US non-farm payrolls to rise by between 175,000 and 185,000 last month.
Data released by the US Department of Labor also showed that employment growth in June and July was lower than originally estimated.
The department also announced that the jobless rate had ticked up to 4.4% from 4.3% in July.
Previous data had put the number of jobs created in July at 209,000, but that has now been revised down to 189,000. June's reading of 231,000 jobs has also been cut to 210,000.

When self-proclaimed white supremacists and neo-nazis take to public marches in America or most anywhere else, "benign" is no longer a word that has any usefulness.

The ACLU gets this; I'm surprised so many on the left don't.

Neo-Nazis and KKK members are despicable but in our great nation, they get to spew their hatred so that we can all see it for what it is and condemn it.

From the video I saw there was violence on both sides.

The president didn't call the white supremacists "good people." I know that's the narrative you want to push but it is simply false. He said there were "good people" among the demonstrators who were against the removal of the statue.

The president didn't call the white supremacists "good people." I know that's the narrative you want to push but it is simply false. He said there were "good people" among the demonstrators who were against the removal of the statue. I don't know how he knows that to be true but then you can't know that it is false.

Of course it's not violence, which is why I wrote the closest thing to violence.

I don't know whether or not Charlie Hebdo got scared off of mocking Muslims after the massacre, so Walsh could be right.

The French magazine indulges in bad taste and I criticized everyone (Including the Pope Clown) who made the sickening argument that they somehow asked for the massacre (Did you?),

See, this is what Free Speech is all about. You can loathe what some say and criticize them harshly, but Walsh isn't trying to stop the speech, the way some of your flock wish to do.

President Donald Trump is expected to announce Tuesday whether he will scrap an Obama-era program that protects people who entered the United States illegally as children.

Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Friday said Trump is "still finalizing" the decision.

"We love the dreamers," Trump told reporters earlier Friday, using the name for the people protected under DACA. "We love everybody."

House Speaker Paul Ryan and Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, on Friday pushed Trump not to end DACA. Trump is leaning toward stopping the program, according to multiple reports, though he has not made a final decision.

Ending DACA could affect 1 million immigrants, according to NBC News, and drag on U.S. gross domestic product.

While other GOP lawmakers have spoken out against scrapping DACA, Ryan and Hatch are perhaps the most prominent to urge Trump not to end it.

"I actually don't think he should do that," Ryan told radio station WCLO in Wisconsin, his home state. "I believe this is something that Congress has to fix."

Hatch, the longest-serving Republican senator, said in a statement that he has "urged the president not to rescind DACA, an action that would further complicate a system in serious need of a permanent, legislative solution."

He said he wants to work on legislation that will in part "provide a workable path forward for the Dreamer population."

In an open letter Thursday, nearly 400 U.S. executives, including Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg and Amazon's Jeff Bezos, urged Trump to retain the protections.

As a candidate, Trump said he would rescind DACA. Earlier this year, he softened his stance, saying he would treat the young immigrants with heart.

Trump could simply choose to let DACA lapse.

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I don't know whether or not Charlie Hebdo got scared off of mocking Muslims after the massacre, so Walsh could be right.

They didn't. He's wrong and he's very stupid. He's always been stupid.

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The French magazine indulges in bad taste and I criticized everyone (Including the Pope Clown) who made the sickening argument that they somehow asked for the massacre (Did you?),

I have no idea about such an incident. Do you have a credible link?

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See, this is what Free Speech is all about. You can loathe what some say and criticize them harshly, but Walsh isn't trying to stop the speech, the way some of your flock wish to do.

There's no evidence I know of that Son of Sam tried to stifle people's speech acts. That didn't make him good, sane or intelligent.

Thanks for explaining the whole free speech thing. I wasn't familiar with the political theory on it. Counter-protests are, of course, not instances of curbing speech.

There's a narrative that has emerged in right wing media particularly which posits that voices such as represented in Unite The Right are being unfairly and uniquely suppressed by the left. This is a PR tactic (unless used by stupid people who have accepted it as being true or accurate). It's another variant of the "we are being victimized" habit of mind. Anti-Semites are being victimized. Unfair! Sad!