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monitoring Trump and relevant contemporary events

 
 
glitterbag
 
  4  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 02:15 am
@tony5732,
If you ask, perhaps. I live near two exclusive neighborhoods (Gibson Island and Sherwood Forest) that have their own grocery stores and post office but I'm unable to use any of their facilities. But not because it's a Muslim community, both communities are Caucasian and you need permission to wander around their communities. Oh, and I'm white, but unless a bonafide resident leaves word, I can't get in. I have never set foot on Gibson Island, but our new County Executive has his main home there. You might have better luck buying groceries in Islamberg, New York....I'm pretty sure you will never get into Gibson Island.
tony5732
 
  1  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 02:44 am
@glitterbag,
Thank you glitter bag. I'm just trying to figure out how these "exclusive neighborhoods" pop up and how they get to be excluded from US law. It seems like a double standard.
tony5732
 
  0  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 03:06 am
@tony5732,
So essentially, a person can't discriminate against anybody, but you can just buy your own town and allow only people you like to live there, and only people who live there to shop there.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 05:03 am
@tony5732,
I'd never heard of this town/hamlet until you mentioned it. The information I find with a google search contains no data suggesting that you couldn't shop there. Where did you get that idea from?

As to isolation from the broader culture, it appears no different from a Mennonite or Hutterite community or Othodox Jewish community or a hippy commune, etc.

I did note that there is a history here of right wing media smears about the town but with no evidence from reporting or from police or even from the ADL that anything untoward is going on.

You perhaps better look at your sources and note them here.
blatham
 
  3  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 05:17 am
Quote:
Intent on Unsettling E.U., Russia Taps Foot Soldiers From the Fringe

...That Russia, a nation intensely proud of its huge role in the defeat of Hitler’s Germany in World War II, would want anything to do with marginal, anti-Semitic crackpots who revere Hitler’s wartime allies in Hungary might, at first glance, seem beyond comprehension.

But Andras Racz, a Russia expert at the Finnish Institute of International Affairs, said it fit into a scatter-gun strategy of placing small bets, directly or through proxies, on ready-made fringe groups in an effort to destabilize or simply disorient the European Union.
LINK
I doubt anyone would consider the thesis that Russia under Putin is working to destabilize Europe and Nato as paranoid thinking. Nor does it seem at all unreasonable that Russia would use and promote far right elements in those countries.

So why not extend that reasoning and consider that the same thing is being done with the US? Why not consider that Trump and team are being used by Putin?

roger
 
  4  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 05:18 am
@blatham,
I think many, or most of us have considered that about Trump. By the way, I think Putin thinks he's kind of cute.
blatham
 
  4  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 05:34 am
@roger,
Yes. I'm really directing this at the folks here who have invested themselves in loyalty to Trump and people around him. The absence of skepticism among followers and even many senior people in the GOP is very troubling. Bannon, as I've mentioned, is moving into Germany and France in order to forward far right parties and ideology. It's the same game Putin is playing. And Russia's involvement in the US election in aid of Trump is a connection too many on the right are failing to face up to.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 05:57 am
Patriotism writ large (so true!)
Quote:
President-elect Donald Trump late Friday publicly praised Russian President Vladimir Putin for attacking Trump’s former Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton.

In a striking statement that seems to further align Trump with Putin, the incoming U.S. president tweeted that he agreed with the Russian leader’s assessment that Clinton and the Democratic Party generally have not shown “dignity” following widespread loses in the November election.

“So true!” Trump tweeted of Putin’s comments, apparently referencing statements the Russian made at his year-end news conference.
LINK
What's Trump doing here? First and most obviously, he is aligning himself with Putin against the other US political party. Does anyone think that is normal? Implicit here is an unstated theme that Putin's ideas more closely represent "real America" than do Democratic ideas.

Secondly, Trump is seeking to increase partisan animosity within America. He ran his campaign on fomenting such animosities and he is continuing to push this animosity even now as a means to enable greater political power by enraging his base.

That people on the right who support Trump (which is definitely not all people on the right but far too many) do not get how destructive and destabilizing this is does more than depresses me. It scares the hell out of me.
Frugal1
 
  0  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 06:53 am
@glitterbag,
Sounds like the muslim communities in Michigan, they are no-go zones for non-muslims.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 07:02 am
Quote:
EJ Dionne ‏@EJDionne 12h12 hours ago
EJ Dionne Retweeted Donald J. Trump
I never thought an incoming president would quote a foreign autocrat to attack his fellow Americans. He has nerve to say "America First."


Quote:
Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 11h11 hours ago
Continues to be the case that most people, across the political spectrum, haven't realized just how bad it will get.

Oh yes.
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Frugal1
 
  -1  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 07:02 am
How many different ways is 0bama going to find to say "**** you" to America and its allies before he leaves office?
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 07:23 am
Strong leader notes from all over
Quote:
More of Kremlin’s Opponents Are Ending Up Dead
LINK
Trump, Manfort, Tillerson, Lewandowski, Flynn, Bannon - this guy Putin is their buddy.

If you are not disturbed by this, you've gone over the edge.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 07:38 am
Quote:
Ryan said: "Because of Obamacare, Medicare is going broke."

Financially, Medicare isn’t entirely in the clear, given that actuaries project that a key reserve fund will run out of money in 2028.

But the Medicare trustees themselves, along with a host of experts, say the Affordable Care Act’s changes to Medicare -- including holding the line on spending and raising taxes -- actually puts Medicare in better shape than before the law was adopted. That’s a long way from making Medicare go broke.

We rate Ryan’s statement Pants on Fire.
PolitiFact
Repeat the lie and repeat the lie and repeat the lie
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blatham
 
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Sat 24 Dec, 2016 07:41 am
Quote:
President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for national security adviser partnered in recent months with a technology company co-led by a businessman who pleaded guilty to trying to sell stolen scientific material in the 1980s to the KGB, the former Soviet intelligence service.

Retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn joined the advisory board of Brainwave Science in February, company documents show. The Massachusetts firm develops controversial “brain fingerprinting” technology designed to assess whether people under interrogation are being truthful by measuring their brain waves. The firm offers training in how to use the technology, in partnership with Flynn’s consulting firm, Flynn Intel Group, according to Brainwave’s website.
What the hell, though, profit is profit, money is money
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edgarblythe
 
  3  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 07:44 am
I just can't see how Trump can make it until February without getting impeached.
blatham
 
  4  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 07:50 am
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
I just can't see how Trump can make it until February without getting impeached.

Yes you can, edgar. A majority in the House is needed to begin impeachment. Look at who holds power in this current House. Look at the behavior of modern Republicans.
Frugal1
 
  -1  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 07:59 am
@edgarblythe,
Then you are blind.
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Frugal1
 
  -1  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 08:06 am
@blatham,
The behavior of modern republicans is still preferred to the behavior of modern democrats, proof of this is the constant rejection of all thing liberal progressive democrat since 0bama first began his rule. The DNC & democrat party are in disarray, and they will stay that way for the foreseeable future.

The republicans are winners, democrats are sore losers - such is life.
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blatham
 
  2  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 08:07 am
Congress Investigations (in days)

285 - PearlHarbor
300 - JFK
406 - Watergate
478 - 9/11
853 - Benghazi
0 - Russia

Because truth is what matters.
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Frugal1
 
  -1  
Sat 24 Dec, 2016 08:26 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0aheeUUsAAI5sx.jpg
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